08-17-2015 04:06 PM
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  1. instantk's Avatar
    My PC is about to complete 7 years and now I am worried about its life... How long can a PC last at max? I used it heavily earlier..but from past 2 years since i bought a windows phone, my PC usage has gradually declined..

    Can I continue to use a pc for as long as i want by simply replacing parts that go bad with time?
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    07-21-2015 12:13 PM
  2. Japser's Avatar
    A PC is the sum of its parts, so as long as you switch out bad parts/parts that are causing trouble, I guess you can go on forever.
    07-21-2015 12:17 PM
  3. tgp's Avatar
    Can I continue to use a pc for as long as i want by simply replacing parts that go bad with time?
    Yes you can. However, a couple different issues may arise:

    1. The cost of repairs will be higher than the value of the computer.
    2. You will encounter compatibility issues.

    Eventually the motherboard will probably go out. We've found from experience that when a motherboard on an old computer dies, repair is not a viable option due to the cost.
    07-21-2015 12:19 PM
  4. abhishake620's Avatar
    I have a 8 year old pc which runs win 10 as fast as my year old laptop ..... Give it a good clean inside CPU(use a blower) from time to time and It will last a life time ... Or till it goes bad due to something .... Reinstall windows every other year for optimum performance....
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    07-21-2015 12:19 PM
  5. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    Yes you can. However, a couple different issues may arise:

    1. The cost of repairs will be higher than the value of the computer.
    2. You will encounter compatibility issues.

    Eventually the motherboard will probably go out. We've found from experience that when a motherboard on an old computer dies, repair is not a viable option due to the cost.
    False. I replaced the motherboard on my pc after a bios update fail (thanks hp) as well as a new CPU and GPU, and it still cost me less than a new PC, I had to phone Microsoft to get Windows re-activates, but seeing as I was able to keep my RAM, case, HDD, and power supply, I only spent 400
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    07-21-2015 12:22 PM
  6. tgp's Avatar
    False. I replaced the motherboard on my pc after a bios update fail (thanks hp) as well as a new CPU and GPU, and it still cost me less than a new PC, I had to phone Microsoft to get Windows re-activates, but seeing as I was able to keep my RAM, case, HDD, and power supply, I only spent 400€
    Good job; one example and you make a liar out of me! How old was your computer? You have at least a fairly decent one to be worth 400€/$450 USD used, old enough to need a motherboard replaced but yet not covered under the manufacturer's warranty.

    Of course it doesn't apply to 100% of the cases, but generally speaking it is not worth it to replace a motherboard on an old computer. It also depends on the availability (and hence the cost) of the replacement motherboard and if you can do the work yourself.
    07-21-2015 12:30 PM
  7. instantk's Avatar
    Yes you can. However, a couple different issues may arise:

    1. The cost of repairs will be higher than the value of the computer.
    2. You will encounter compatibility issues.

    Eventually the motherboard will probably go out. We've found from experience that when a motherboard on an old computer dies, repair is not a viable option due to the cost.
    Ya.eventually would buy a new one...no doubt..
    I have kept my pc in a good condition and i am kind of attached to it!
    07-21-2015 12:30 PM
  8. KarmaEcrivain94's Avatar
    Good job; one example and you make a liar out of me! How old was your computer? You have at least a fairly decent one to be worth 400/$450 USD used, old enough to need a motherboard replaced but yet not covered under the manufacturer's warranty.

    Of course it doesn't apply to 100% of the cases, but generally speaking it is not worth it to replace a motherboard on an old computer. It also depends on the availability (and hence the cost) of the replacement motherboard and if you can do the work yourself.
    Not worth it to replace, but worth an upgrade. I went from a crummy OEM motherboard to a pretty decent Asus Z97M-E.
    In my logic (which, surely, is not everyone's, and I'm perfectly ok with that :P), when a part of your computer fails, it's not only time to replace it, but to also upgrade it. In which case, it is cheaper to change just the part, than to upgrade your entire PC.

    Oh, and I meant 400 for the new motherboard, cpu, and gpu, which is cheaper than if I had bought a new PC with equal specs.
    07-21-2015 12:41 PM
  9. tgp's Avatar
    Not worth it to replace, but worth an upgrade. I went from a crummy OEM motherboard to a pretty decent Asus Z97M-E.
    In my logic (which, surely, is not everyone's, and I'm perfectly ok with that :P), when a part of your computer fails, it's not only time to replace it, but to also upgrade it. In which case, it is cheaper to change just the part, than to upgrade your entire PC.

    Oh, and I meant 400€ for the new motherboard, cpu, and gpu, which is cheaper than if I had bought a new PC with equal specs.
    Sounds like it was worth it in your case. I work in IT, and we do PC repair. We have to figure in our cost, markup, and labor. It is then very seldom worth it to replace a motherboard.
    07-21-2015 12:47 PM
  10. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Just to echo some of the suggestions so far, a good cleaning every six months to the internals can do wonders for any PC or laptop. Dust gets drawn in by the cooling fans and disperse it to every corner of a PC's innards. The fan motor itself will draw more current and subsequently produce higher temperatures and need to run longer. It becomes a vicious cycle and will shorten the life of the CPU and the HDD considerably. A $5 can of compressed air at Radio Shack can pay off big time in the long run. Never use a portable air compressor because you will introduce water and moisture into your system causing serious grief in short order.
    07-22-2015 01:29 PM
  11. xandros9's Avatar
    We have older PC's still chugging so it'll last a long time. The question was whether the specifications would stack up. These days, hardware capable of running Vista should be good to go for the most part. (save for some unsupported XP-era hardware) Relatively old parts can be cheaper too depending.
    07-22-2015 01:37 PM
  12. AndyCalling's Avatar
    You can replace parts indefinitely if you want, I do. Eventually you do hit a philosophical barrier though. Think of Trigger's broom in the sitcom 'Only fools and horses'. Whilst getting an award from the council for making do with the same broom for 10 years, the street sweeper commented that it had needed only 15 replacement heads and 3 replacement handles in that time.

    By Trigger logic I've had my PC for decades. It still runs the latest stuff.
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    07-22-2015 02:16 PM
  13. tgp's Avatar
    Never use a portable air compressor because you will introduce water and moisture into your system causing serious grief in short order.
    And to add to this, never use a vacuum (unless it is specifically designed for this purpose). It is by far the least messy way to do the job, but the suction can produce static, which can harm your computer.

    An alternative to a can of compressed air is a compressor built for this job, such as this one from Amazon
    07-22-2015 02:19 PM
  14. fatclue_98's Avatar
    These days, hardware capable of running Vista should be good to go for the most part. (save for some unsupported XP-era hardware)
    Throwing some shade on my 2003 HP TC1100? The original Tablet PC and still going strong on W7. If I could only get Nvidia drivers to work, it runs 8.1 beautimously with every single feature working. Even Windows 10 ran flawlessly on it except for the missing display driver not allowing me to put it to sleep.
    07-22-2015 03:01 PM
  15. xandros9's Avatar
    Throwing some shade on my 2003 HP TC1100? The original Tablet PC and still going strong on W7. If I could only get Nvidia drivers to work, it runs 8.1 beautimously with every single feature working. Even Windows 10 ran flawlessly on it except for the missing display driver not allowing me to put it to sleep.
    I was actually thinking of that fellow who was complaining that 10 didn't support his 7-era hardware. Which turned out to be from the time of XP.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-22-2015 10:18 PM
  16. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    And to add to this, never use a vacuum (unless it is specifically designed for this purpose). It is by far the least messy way to do the job, but the suction can produce static, which can harm your computer.

    An alternative to a can of compressed air is a compressor built for this job, such as this one from Amazon
    I have this one which is made by the same company.

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    07-22-2015 10:34 PM
  17. Yazen's Avatar
    Yes you can. However, a couple different issues may arise:

    1. The cost of repairs will be higher than the value of the computer.
    2. You will encounter compatibility issues.

    Eventually the motherboard will probably go out. We've found from experience that when a motherboard on an old computer dies, repair is not a viable option due to the cost.
    Used motherboards are $20
    07-23-2015 06:40 AM
  18. heickelrrx's Avatar
    I got old computer. When i see what inside I found that it has Intel pentium 4, asus P5G41T M LX board 1GB RAM and 120 PATA disk.

    Since I have spare money so I buy used Intel Core 2Quad Q9400, 2x Veagance Black 4GB RAM, 1 new Seagate SATA 1TB disk , Zotac GTX 750 Ti + new PSU. Now it's running windows 7 and ready for upgrade to 10

    Not mention I play some games here. Hmm Civilization 5 and Dota 2.

    Do some research about what inside your PC. Some part may still be able to used
    07-23-2015 06:51 AM
  19. tgp's Avatar
    I have this one which is made by the same company.

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    We have one of those too at work. We found that it doesn't do as good of a job at cleaning as a blower. It is much cleaner though!
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    07-23-2015 07:17 AM
  20. Yazen's Avatar
    My PC is about to complete 7 years and now I am worried about its life... How long can a PC last at max? I used it heavily earlier..but from past 2 years since i bought a windows phone, my PC usage has gradually declined..

    Can I continue to use a pc for as long as i want by simply replacing parts that go bad with time?
    Yes. You should probably keep your personal files backed on OneDrive
    07-23-2015 07:27 AM
  21. Ten Four's Avatar
    I'm typing this on a Dell 530 daily driver purchased new in 2008, running Vista at the time. A few years back I switched to Ubuntu and love it. Use it nearly every day, and it often stays on for days or weeks. Never had it open or cleaned anything. Everything works fine. The funny thing is that running Ubuntu it is more responsive feeling then my work machines in the office running Windows 7. But, 95% of what I do is Internet, word processing, some light spreadsheet stuff, and photo storage/light editing. Nothing too demanding. That's part of the problem with the PC market--why buy a new computer when your old one does everything you need it to do?
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    07-23-2015 08:38 AM
  22. fdalbor's Avatar
    This is not related to the post; but I have a Compaq Deskpro 4/33i that I keep running to fool around with a desk drawer full of old DOS/ WW programs that I just enjoy playing with. It still runs like the day I bought it used over 12 years ago. I get as much enjoyment out of it as I do my brand new HP Envy all in one touch screen with 8.1. Laugh at this, it has a 20MB hard drive, thats right not 20GB, 20 MB. I also have an Atari 800 that still runs fine using the cartridge programs, the disk drives gave up long time ago. I would love to find a working one (disk drive); but alast I know that is impossible.The old saying they don't make them like they used to is true.
    07-23-2015 08:48 AM
  23. HoosierDaddy's Avatar
    I have always built my own (and friends' and family members') for as long as I can remember. Some are older than your's. Mass produced PCs are more prone to failures due to cost cutting on parts and higher operating temperatures (potential and new customers can hear high volume fans but not feel the heat from their absence). I would think hard before replacing parts in most mass produced PCs but would usually do that in a home built.
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    07-23-2015 10:53 AM
  24. hack14u's Avatar
    Most everyone I have seen fail was due to bad or leaking capacitors on the mainboard. Sure ram can go bad, hard drives for sure, but mostly the mainboards as has been said above. Me personally, I have a 5 year old Dell running like a champ, but the only "old" part in it is the mainboard. When that goes, I will just upgrade to a newer one that supports more.
    07-23-2015 07:54 PM
  25. DavidinCT's Avatar
    My PC is about to complete 7 years and now I am worried about its life... How long can a PC last at max? I used it heavily earlier..but from past 2 years since i bought a windows phone, my PC usage has gradually declined..

    Can I continue to use a pc for as long as i want by simply replacing parts that go bad with time?
    A well built PC could almost last for ever. I work in IT and I do a lot of data center work. So we were checking out some older machines that are running in the data center, on a OLD HP Prolant server. running WIndows NT 3.51, the server was up, with NO reboots (thank god for power backup systems) for 10 years. Yes, 10 years.

    It's common in my field to see some windows machines/servers (not day to day users) be up for 3-5 years.

    It's all how it's built, if you get a good company's mother board that is known for being reliable, you might just have luck.

    The other question is, is it worth it ? If your computer is running good, then that is cool (I have a few Core2Quad machines, 5-7 years old that still run good) but, in time, the performance drops to an almost unacceptable level and you can keep it going but, if you have to wait 2 min for Word to open up, is it really worth it ?

    And I agree on upgrading computers, fairly easy to do (tons of stuff online), I just upgraded an old Core2Quad to a i7 5820, 16gb of DDR4, GTX970 and a few other parts, ended up costing me around $700 or so for evertying. A PC configured with these specs off the shelf is $1500 or more.

    I saw some i5 and i7 combos on ebay going for $150-300, A simple swap (MB, Ram and CPU), if you have all the other gear in your PC that you can use...Fairly cheap and dump in a SSD for the OS and it's whole new world....
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    07-26-2015 10:57 AM
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