[TheWeeBear]

Nokia Lumia 800 - Nokia - UK

[psychotron]

And as expected, no availability schedule announced for the U.S. Not really mad, just disappointed even though I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up in the first place. Am I correct in that it appears to have no front facing camera (not that it matters to me but gonna be a really big deal for some)? Haven't noticed it mentioned. Still may spring for one when it finally does show up here.

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[TheWeeBear]

Well my network is right in there with the Lumia.

Nokia Lumia 800 is coming to Three. « Welcome to the Three Blog

Shame i'm not wanting one LOL

[Stig]

The user guide is up too:
Nokia Lumia 800 User Guide - Nokia - UK

[TheWeeBear]

And a couple of Nokia Lumia ads





It's amazing for a new WP7, that it has no FFC.

[psychotron]

It's amazing for a new WP7, that it has no FFC.

Indeed. I personally couldn't care less, but I know there are some people who have been waiting for these that will have an absolute meltdown about it, and perhaps rightly so with the recent Skype acquisition. Me, I just want the Nokia sexy. ;)

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[TheWeeBear]

I agree, its a feature i would never use, maybe messing about with Skype video Jbozz when it arrives. All my previous phones have had a FFC and never used them at all either.

Just seems so weird for a brand spanking new WP not to have a FFC, especially with Skype just around the corner.

[Judge_Daniel]

I'm in disbelief that they don't have FFCs. I really thought that was going to be default on every new WP7 phone. Guess I was wrong. :P Hopefully the new phones in 2012 will have them.

[psychotron]

Yeah, even though it doesn't affect me, I'm still a bit stunned that these would arrive without them seeing as how MS is pinning so much of their hopes for future success on these devices. Something so small yet so huge.

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[benjiprice]

Could one buy this phone in Europe and use it on AT&T USA? Would it have the right bands, including HSPA? Would the micro-SIM work?

Here are GSM bands listed for phone:

Operating bands:
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900

Data network:
EDGE Class B
GPRS Class B
HSUPA Cat6 5.76 Mbps
HSDPA Cat10 14.4 Mbps

[theefman]

Could one buy this phone in Europe and use it on AT&T USA? Would it have the right bands, including HSPA? Would the micro-SIM work?

Here are GSM bands listed for phone:

Operating bands:
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900

Data network:
EDGE Class B
GPRS Class B
HSUPA Cat6 5.76 Mbps

HSDPA Cat10 14.4 Mbps

Yes, the specs list WCDMA Band V 850 and Band II 1900, should work perfectly on At&t. No such luck for Tmo, just EDGE.

[red grenadine]

Very disappointed. No FFC, and no 64GB storage option.

I has a sad

[palandri]

Could one buy this phone in Europe and use it on AT&T USA? Would it have the right bands, including HSPA? Would the micro-SIM work?

Here are GSM bands listed for phone:

Operating bands:
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900

Data network:
EDGE Class B
GPRS Class B
HSUPA Cat6 5.76 Mbps
HSDPA Cat10 14.4 Mbps

First off, I am surprised it's not pentaband (5 bands) then you wouldn't have to worry.

What you normally look for is the UMTS frequency :

Europe uses 900/2100
AT&T uses 850/1900
T-MobileUSA uses 1700/2100aws

The listing shows WCDMA of 850/900/1900/2100 I think WCDMA is the new 3G frequency designation for UMTS, but I am not 100% sure. It looks like AT&T is covered, but I would have to investigate the term WCDMA more.

[benjiprice]

Yes, the specs list WCDMA Band V 850 and Band II 1900, should work perfectly on At&t. No such luck for Tmo, just EDGE.

Oh sweet, thanks theefman. Didn't realize WCDMA bands were relevant. Here's the list for anyone else interested:
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)

Now to decide between this and focus s.

[palandri]

Yes, the specs list WCDMA Band V 850 and Band II 1900, should work perfectly on At&t. No such luck for Tmo, just EDGE.

When did they start using WCDMA, rather than UMTS for 3G? That confused me

[theefman]

When did they start using WCDMA, rather than UMTS for 3G? That confused me

AFAIK its always been referred to that way.

[palandri]

AFAIK its always been referred to that way.

I was just googling the terms. I guess I am way behind the times. UMTS is old terminology.

[theefman]

Just a pity Tmo users cant get in on the fun, hope to see Penta band next year.

[palandri]

Just a pity Tmo users cant get in on the fun, hope to see Penta band next year.

I am really surprised it doesn't have 5 bands.

[cckgz4]

Just a pity Tmo users cant get in on the fun, hope to see Penta band next year.

Yeah these wouldn't work with my Simple Mobile card :(............





































But that's the bright side of prepaid: I'll activate an H2O wireless account (Prepaid company using AT&T's network) and get it activated there. 60 for unlimited everything :)

[palandri]

...But that's the bright side of prepaid: I'll activate an H2O wireless account (Prepaid company using AT&T's network) and get it activated there. 60 for unlimited everything :)

I've heard good things about H20. I see their SIM cards at Best Buy all the time. i might have to give them a try.

[cckgz4]

I've heard good things about H20. I see their SIM cards at Best Buy all the time. i might have to give them a try.

Yeah I've read some good reviews about them.

[5tephen]

I am really surprised it doesn't have 5 bands.

Especially since the N9 supports the 5 bands. But then again, the N9 has a FFC and supports NFC.

[jbernal90]

Speaking of T-Mobile bands..

I know the Lumia doesn't have the AWS bands so it will only get T-Mobile EDGE. Does anybody know if the data connection is independent of the voice connection on T-Mobile? For example, is the voice signal or quality the same on EDGE as it currently is on 3G?

I don't really mind the data speeds because I carry around a hotspot I could connect to for data anyway. I just wouldn't want my voice quality to drop as well.

[tissotti]

Quite surprised that Nokia 800 is missing so many things that N9 has. Like NFC, 64GB option, front camera, bigger screen, N9 has 1GB of RAM and pentaband.
Don't actually mind as N9 owner, but still. ;)
To be seen will i get Nokia 800 or one of the many phones released next year.