[boss.king]

Does the Titan have Gorilla glass? Google tells me it doesn't but I'm hoping to be wrong about this.

[Dr.Phil]

Suggesting waiting until February? Unpossible. We of the Holy Church of the Instant Gratification already have acolytes spread out throughout Toronto bribing our way into getting the first ones out in the wild.(Breathe) By Release +3, they're already old news.

Of course you realize we have no life.

I am tired of waiting to be honest. I am the person who ALWAYS has to get the best device and what ends up happening is the second I think I have found a device that I would be happy with I hear rumors of something better and I wait. I have been doing this for about 8 months now. I had an Inspire 4G from AT&T but I ended up giving it to my brother in exchange for his upgrade. I finally want to end it all in December/January and just buy a damn device.

[Sniper1087]

you Know I am new to this system, since I come from Android, currently on T-mobile, I am waiting for a WP7 device to come to T-mo, but I was wondering if they would add microSD slot, and also wondering how is the performance compared to the T-mobile Samsung Galaxy S2(Which I currently owned), even though I have it rooted and Overclocked to 1.8 ghz, I still experience constant lag, and on the browser Checker Boarding when pinch to zoom too fast. I saw the Radar available, and I liked the Design, but the Internal storage wasnt of my liking, and not expandable storage, I got a microSD of 32gb and definitely want to use it on a Windows phone.

Anyways would appreciate the help in making a decision, thanks in advanced.

[FuriousGeorge984]

You're probably going to be out of luck with the microSD card - none of this generation of Windows Phones supports expandable storage, unfortunately.

I'm surprised that you're having lag issues with your SGSII! I guess that speaks to some of the difficulties of Android.

I don't have any lag issues on my Titan. The only thing that happens is that when I pinch to zoom quickly, sometimes it will take a split second to "focus" the text on the page, but I don't get checker-boarding or any jerkiness.

[Sniper1087]

is not to be surprised, I have even overclocked the Device up to 1.8 ghz and still some lag is noticeable, so yeah is not a deal breaker, but I want something fluid, also transitions is a big turn off for me, when you switch from vertical view to landscape view the transition is terrible, they need to fix that, now Windows doesnt have that Issue, the memory card is somewhat Important, but as Long as I can get 16gb I can live without it.

[CommanderElvis]

I am tired of waiting to be honest. I am the person who ALWAYS has to get the best device and what ends up happening is the second I think I have found a device that I would be happy with I hear rumors of something better and I wait. I have been doing this for about 8 months now. I had an Inspire 4G from AT&T but I ended up giving it to my brother in exchange for his upgrade. I finally want to end it all in December/January and just buy a damn device.

I understand completely. Got an HD7 in Feb., and was coerced back to BlackBerry for work purposes. The coercion stopped with the outage, and I am now looking forward to moving back to a WP7 set (My son won't trade). In truth, the Torch has been adequate and comfortable after being on a Storm, but Running their OS6 when they are working OS7 and QNX IMHO means another hardware upgrade regardless, so time for a change for the better.

[CommanderElvis]

You're probably going to be out of luck with the microSD card - none of this generation of Windows Phones supports expandable storage, unfortunately.

I'm surprised that you're having lag issues with your SGSII! I guess that speaks to some of the difficulties of Android.

I don't have any lag issues on my Titan. The only thing that happens is that when I pinch to zoom quickly, sometimes it will take a split second to "focus" the text on the page, but I don't get checker-boarding or any jerkiness.

With cloud based storage available, do we really need storage cards anymore? Especially with download speeds increasing exponentially as they have?

/Just asking

[dawrath]

Data caps and not always in a signal area is enough of a reason to want my stuff on the device.

That being said 80% of my music needs is thru streaming on WiFi at work.

[Sniper1087]

With cloud based storage available, do we really need storage cards anymore? Especially with download speeds increasing exponentially as they have?

/Just asking

hmm ok Like I said I am really new to this platform, in fact I have never had a windows Phone 7 device to play with, yet I been looking to do the Switch, and now you mention cloud storage, which cloud storage service are there for WP7? can I store movies I have on my sd card? and transfer all my music from google music to this cloud services? or do I need to put them on a different program?

[littlesteelo16]

I think I might wait until CES, or at least until Samsung throw a high end Omnia device at the UK. In all honesty, while I like the current offerings, they all have downsides which really puts me off buying. With the Titan its the size of the screen (and the phone) with the low resolution, the Lumia with the lack of a ffc and sometimes weird-looking pentile screen and the Radar with the 5mp camera and slower processor. If Samsung ever come out with an Omnia version of the Focus S, and its build quality is good, I will get that.

On the other hand, with rumours of apollo and higher specs coming some time next year, it makes me doubt whether it really is the right time to switch. I want wp so badly, but I will hate myself if I buy it, and Microsoft decide to support high-res screens and 1080p video in a few months.

I guess that is one advantage of being an iPhone user. You know when you buy a phone, you are safe for a year before the new model comes out. With android and wp7, its a guessing game.

[FuriousGeorge984]

I don't think it will be "within a few months". The next update that is supposed to come around for Windows Phone will be to make it more capable on low-end devices, not to expand functionality for high-end devices. I think you're probably safe for at least ~8-9 months until Apollo.

[Sniper1087]

so waiting until CES to see what might get Tmobile, now the big question is if any WP7 device will get adobe flash player on it. I think I read somewhere it was supposed to be available, yet I have not heard any news recently regarding the update that will enable it, because phones with 1 GHz processor are more than capable of running it, but I am not sure if they are supposed to enable that as an update or just future devices will have it, any opinions on that?

[FuriousGeorge984]

Pretty sure WP7 has sworn off flash entirely

[littlesteelo16]

I don't think it will be "within a few months". The next update that is supposed to come around for Windows Phone will be to make it more capable on low-end devices, not to expand functionality for high-end devices. I think you're probably safe for at least ~8-9 months until Apollo.

I think that settles it then. Either the Titan or Lumia for me. Off to have another look this week, then ordering one or the other after. I want to sell my iphone before it loses too much value.

[jeremyshaw]

Pretty sure WP7 has sworn off flash entirely

While MS has not said so outright, the Win8 Dev Preview's Metro browser doesn't have flash, either.

[Dr.Phil]

so waiting until CES to see what might get Tmobile, now the big question is if any WP7 device will get adobe flash player on it. I think I read somewhere it was supposed to be available, yet I have not heard any news recently regarding the update that will enable it, because phones with 1 GHz processor are more than capable of running it, but I am not sure if they are supposed to enable that as an update or just future devices will have it, any opinions on that?

Microsoft probably wouldn't support Flash anytime soon or really at all. Their devices support HTML5 which is pretty much the future of the internet. Flash, while I like it, also has alot of security flaws. Microsoft instead has their own sort-of flash competition in Silverlight. In all honesty, I use to think that you should have a device that has flash but really it is kind of annoying when you come across sites with those huge graphic oriented introductions and you try to click skip or those sites with the drop down lists and all of that. Ugh, it is more annoying that you think...

[littlesteelo16]

Just got an email from clove saying the the sim-free Lumia won't be available until January. Presumably expansys will have the same situation. Since I don't buy phones on contract, Titan it is.

[kinslayer]

ah..the irony of life :)

I live in the states and can pick up the Focus S any time I please, but I don't even consider it. I am not a fan of plastic builds, so sadly the Focus S is out. But I am DYING to get a Lumia 800 and can't :( Maybe I should buy you a Focus S and you get me a Lumia ;)

Lumia is the one I would pick obviously. It's too gorgeous to not have if you can have it.

[kinslayer]

I guess the better question is what do YOU find better about the Lumia? I honestly think the Focus S looks better than the Lumia, plus the bigger and better screen technology is always a plus. The Lumia just reminds me of an old iPod nano...just larger.

I would guess that you haven't actually picked up a Lumia in your hands. The pictures/video don't do it justice at all. I've played with the Focus S a lot and the Lumia 800. The build quailty of the Lumia is eons ahead of the Focus S. A whole different level. The Focus S is a great device of course, but still feels plasticy and cheap-ish. The Lumia is just so premium feeling. Extremely. You just need to see the Lumia in person.

[Dr.Phil]

I would guess that you haven't actually picked up a Lumia in your hands. The pictures/video don't do it justice at all. I've played with the Focus S a lot and the Lumia 800. The build quailty of the Lumia is eons ahead of the Focus S. A whole different level. The Focus S is a great device of course, but still feels plasticy and cheap-ish. The Lumia is just so premium feeling. Extremely. You just need to see the Lumia in person.

Even so, I wouldn't buy the Lumia because a 3.7 inch screen is a no-go for me. Also, I would think the Titan would be on par in terms of build quality to the Lumia but I believe he was just asking me about the Focus S and the Lumia. Also, build quality to me doesn't really matter because on every phone I buy a put a case around it and a screen protector. I did have a Nokia E71x, one of the premium phones they offered, and after a year all the dust and dirt ended up underneath the screen with no way to get it out. I haven't had that happen on any other phone since.

I would consider Nokia if rumors of what the Ace is suppose to be comes to reality. But, the Lumia 800 is just a joke. All they did was take the N9 and made it worse. I mean come on, use a new design for a phone. I would much rather have the Lumia 710 than the 800.

[power5]

Lumia is plastic. Only the HTC are aluminum.

http://idsamp.wordpress.com/2011/11/...-the-nokia-n9/

Video of N9 creation
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