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  1. WindowsCentral.com's Avatar

    Should you still be rocking the Windows Phone 8.1 Developer Preview and are looking to downgrade the operating system to get the full public release and Lumia Cyan, you won't have to carry out this task if you're able to hold on for another week. According to Joe Belfiore on Twitter, Microsoft will be upgrading those on the Developer Preview program to the full Windows Phone 8.1 public release next week.

    Full story from the WPCentral blog...
    07-31-2014 07:30 AM
  2. Fiann's Avatar
    So, uh, what happened with this? Why was the story pulled? Did it turn out to be false or what?
    07-31-2014 08:51 AM
  3. boxa72's Avatar
    No it came directly from Joe Belfiore, my guess is they got the facts wrong n are rewriting the story
    Fiann likes this.
    07-31-2014 08:54 AM
  4. bjd223's Avatar
    This was pulled because they assumed Update 1 was Cyan, which it is not.

    Update 1 is the next MS update that includes folders, etc. and has nothing to do with Nokia additions to the firmware.
    Fiann likes this.
    07-31-2014 09:10 AM
  5. Abb4d0n's Avatar
    Maybe Joe deleted his tweet. I can't find it.
    07-31-2014 09:10 AM
  6. boxa72's Avatar
    This was pulled because they assumed Update 1 was Cyan, which it is not.

    Update 1 is the next MS update that includes folders, etc. and has nothing to do with Nokia additions to the firmware.


    They didn't assume anything! They said they were surprised there was no mention of Cyan. My guess is they've gone off to rewrite the story
    07-31-2014 09:13 AM
  7. primortal's Avatar
    Maybe Joe deleted his tweet. I can't find it.
    It's still there,
    07-31-2014 09:18 AM
  8. boxa72's Avatar
    Maybe Joe deleted his tweet. I can't find it.


    Here it is here
    07-31-2014 09:19 AM
  9. Fiann's Avatar
    Thanks, guys. I didn't see Joe's tweet when I looked either. Didn't realize the Twitter website hid it on a different tab.
    xXCexXx likes this.
    07-31-2014 09:31 AM
  10. slyronit's Avatar
    Its says 8.1 update 1, not Cyan. You don't need Cyan to get to 8.1 update 1. I don't understand why anyone would think otherwise.
    palmujukka likes this.
    07-31-2014 09:34 AM
  11. primortal's Avatar
    Here's the confusion...

    There was a statement that those who have the DP of 8.1 installed cannot install Cyan without downgrading to 8.0 first. Also MS pushed an update to 8.1 (not GDR1) a few weeks ago and then put a halt to it; whether it was the BitLocker issue or something else. Now the issue that halted that update; is that reason we have to downgrade to 8.0 in order to install Cyan?

    Now comes GDR1 according to Joe's tweet we'll get this update next week without having to downgrade to 8.0. That's all well and good.

    So what happens lets say VZW releases Cyan. Do we have to downgrade from 8.1 Update 1 to 8.0 first in order to get Cyan? Then install 8.1 GRD1?

    My head is spinning with this.....
    07-31-2014 09:43 AM
  12. dKp1977's Avatar
    Here's the confusion...

    There was a statement that those who have the DP of 8.1 installed cannot install Cyan without downgrading to 8.0 first. Also MS pushed an update to 8.1 (not GDR1) a few weeks ago and then put a halt to it; whether it was the BitLocker issue or something else. Now the issue that halted that update; is that reason we have to downgrade to 8.0 in order to install Cyan?

    Now comes GDR1 according to Joe's tweet we'll get this update next week without having to downgrade to 8.0. That's all well and good.

    So what happens lets say VZW releases Cyan. Do we have to downgrade from 8.1 Update 1 to 8.0 first in order to get Cyan? Then install 8.1 GRD1?

    My head is spinning with this.....
    Yes, no matter which version of DP you're running, you would have to downgrade to 8.0 if you want to get Cyan as soon as it is available for your device. I'm in the same boat, but I refuse to downgrade and rather wait for Microsoft to fix the issue and start the rollout for those of us still running the DP.
    antiochian2010 and primortal like this.
    07-31-2014 09:47 AM
  13. boxa72's Avatar
    You are all confusing this **** lol they wouldn't put update1 out unless the other issue was fixed, it wouldn't make sense!!! Your all freaking out over nothing lol
    07-31-2014 09:50 AM
  14. slyronit's Avatar
    I hope Cyan for 920 comes before GDR 1, otherwise I would have to update to GDR 1, then downgrade to 8.0, get cyan, install DP and update to GDR 1 again.
    07-31-2014 10:01 AM
  15. primortal's Avatar
    You are all confusing this **** lol they wouldn't put update1 out unless the other issue was fixed, it wouldn't make sense!!! Your all freaking out over nothing lol
    Not freaking out just trying to understand what's going on between Cyan and GRD1. So you're saying that when VZW releases Cyan there's no need to downgrade?
    07-31-2014 10:06 AM
  16. theefman's Avatar
    You are all confusing this **** lol they wouldn't put update1 out unless the other issue was fixed, it wouldn't make sense!!! Your all freaking out over nothing lol
    You obviously dont know Microsoft very well.
    07-31-2014 10:06 AM
  17. boxa72's Avatar
    Not freaking out just trying to understand what's going on between Cyan and GRD1. So you're saying that when VZW releases Cyan there's no need to downgrade?


    I'm saying that Cyan will come wrapped up in GDR1. It wouldn't make sense and it will absolutely make them look clueless to both competition and consumers alike!
    07-31-2014 10:08 AM
  18. boxa72's Avatar
    You obviously dont know Microsoft very well.


    bro I went thru all that bull**** with 7.5 so I am well aware of the **** they pull. But like I said they wont distribute Cyan AND GDR1 separately coz it will make them look even stupider than they already do!
    07-31-2014 10:14 AM
  19. primortal's Avatar
    I'm saying that Cyan will come wrapped up in GDR1. It wouldn't make sense and it will absolutely make them look clueless to both competition and consumers alike!
    GDR1 isn't even officially released yet so the likelihood of AT&T or VZW holding out till GDR1 to release Cyan as well is preposterous.
    07-31-2014 10:20 AM
  20. primortal's Avatar
    bro I went thru all that bull**** with 7.5 so I am well aware of the **** they pull. But like I said they wont distribute Cyan AND GDR1 separately coz it will make them look even stupider than they already do!
    What!!! 8.1 + Cyan is already rolling everywhere already so your statement is invalid.
    07-31-2014 10:22 AM
  21. boxa72's Avatar
    GDR1 isn't even officially released yet so the likelihood of AT&T or VZW holding out till GDR1 to release Cyan as well is preposterous.


    yeah I forgot ur situation sorry, I was kinda distracted but yeah u might have to go thru all that **** if they don't release Cyan before GDR1 becomes available. In Aussie its already been here a while but I refuse to downgrade
    07-31-2014 10:23 AM
  22. antiochian2010's Avatar
    Yes, no matter which version of DP you're running, you would have to downgrade to 8.0 if you want to get Cyan as soon as it is available for your device. I'm in the same boat, but I refuse to downgrade and rather wait for Microsoft to fix the issue and start the rollout for those of us still running the DP.
    I had downgraded almost 2 weeks ago, but this AM reinstalled 8.1DP. Just tired of waiting and in spite of myself checking phone update every 3-4 hours.

    Now my phone is cranking along nicely; when AT&T does release Cyan for the 1020, maybe I'll downgrade; maybe I'll wait - but at least I'm not letting the issue run what's left of my brain anymore..
    07-31-2014 10:48 AM
  23. dKp1977's Avatar
    I'm saying that Cyan will come wrapped up in GDR1. It wouldn't make sense and it will absolutely make them look clueless to both competition and consumers alike!
    Certainly not. DP pushes out OS updates (in beta stage). It's highly unlikely that Cyan - the _firmware_ update - will come bundled with it.
    07-31-2014 10:55 AM
  24. boxa72's Avatar
    Certainly not. DP pushes out OS updates (in beta stage). It's highly unlikely that Cyan - the _firmware_ update - will come bundled with it.


    oh well u get that on the big jobs, I guess I'm downgrading too then but I swear if they keep pulling **** like this i'm outtie :/
    07-31-2014 10:57 AM
  25. slyronit's Avatar
    I'm saying that Cyan will come wrapped up in GDR1. It wouldn't make sense and it will absolutely make them look clueless to both competition and consumers alike!
    It will not. GDR 1 will only come for people on Developer Preview. Cyan is a separate roll-out.
    palmujukka likes this.
    07-31-2014 10:57 AM
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