Just read this from The Gadget Show on what Windows 10 could mean for Windows phones: http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/news/what-windows-10-means-smartphones Might be of interest.
What is the future of Windows Phone?
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Thanks for the link, but sorry to have to say this but the entire editorial was misunderstood and will mislead persons who are not as tech savvy as some of us here may be. Microsoft is not "dumping" ARM anytime soon, because it has much better power savings than X86 and X68 processors. What Microsoft is doing is merging the ARM (Metro) compatible side of Windows, meaning that the same apps that run on Windows Phone and WindowsRT will be able to run across all platforms, Desktop legacy applications are in a much more complicated and delicate position. Not all desktop applications are updated by developers today, so it would be near impossible to update the 4 million (not sure) legacy applications to conform to the Modern application model and design standards to be even usable on a small screen.
So in other words the future of Microsoft is a flow from Windows Phone to WindowsRT to full Windows, but Desktop, is not coming down; Joe Belfiore said that phones would not have a desktop interface, which begs the question now given that article, how will desktop apps run on phone without a desktop. Modern apps are what are going to be universal moving forward, enterprise will be able to update their application on one platform and be able to work on a plethora of devices; in essence, there is one store, one app on all devices, and one name, but there will always be a separation to a degree in the form or function depending on the architecture.
theefman
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MysticForce
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awesome concepts !!!
i hope W10 for mobiles will be like this
great job
Agree.
But I am sure that WP10 will be very similar with design as WP8. I found so many great concepts on the internet but I'm thinking that Microsoft doesn't care much about concept.
Given the very versatility of Windows 10 across form factors, I assume that keyboards will finally be supported on a smartphone. For Android fans, USB host compatibility may also be brought to phone since most Windows 8.1 apps usually require keyboard and mouse support to some degree; so in order for an app to run on all devices it would have to include that functionality. I may be wrong, but it would make sense to bring that functionality rather than make Windows RT less capable.
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Thanks for that analysis. I was a little surprised when I read the article, given its from a popular TV show which specialises in gadgets and tech. Anyone reading that who had been thinking of buying one of the new handsets would, I think, definitely think twice.
I don't like the blurring (glass) space. Why not let the background cleanand clear?
EDIT: IMO, for phones, it is better a 3 columns tiles, can you make a new mockup with 3 columns, no glass effect and the background solid (the space between tiles)?
Thanks.
SSgt Bruskowiz
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It's still a concept.
I personally don't think that the blurry tiles are going to be on the phone o.s anytime soon, its to hungry for resources.
If MS continues to serve te lower and mid range phone market then they are running in to the same issue as with the wp7 phones. There are to many phones who cant support that so they are going to loose a lot of users and with that also developers.
They simply can't afford that.
Story is going to be a lot different when they are going to be serious about designing phablets or small tablets with phone capabilities.
Nokia did try to play with some big screens like the 1520 and the 1320, but size alone doesn't make a phablet, these phones are just bigger phones with nothing special. So if they want to go to the let's say the aero style they need to design heavier phones then they are doing right now.
Not only in hardware but also in battery life.
Ryan ODonnell
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No, they are not. You, like most, are misunderstanding the root of the WP7>WP8 lack of upgrade path. There was a Kernel change, from Windows CE to Windows NT. That's a massive shift. We don't know how the CPUs of WP7 devices would have handled WP8 but MS's research clearly showed that the same CPU on the NT code always, verifiably and repeatedly, behaved faster and more securely. The problem was that in order to do such a huge change in WP7 devices, they would have to flash all of them. That's no simple task for the general consumer and it was deemed way too expensive to support considering the low number of us WP users at that time. That's why the upgrade path was cut. Since WP8 we've been on the same NT kernel as big Windows, so there is literally 0 reason why we won't be able to upgrade (unless some CPUs are way too slow, but I doubt it).
Now, about the UI shift in W10 for phone... I don't know, I see them evolving both Metro sides to an in-between W and WP8.1. That implies backgrounds and transparent tile options, even both combined. I was doing a quick mockup of my start screen and I came up with this:
Rishicash
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when it comes to support for the platform, we can assume that it will greatly improve, since Windows computers, laptops and 2-in-ones have a much greater market share for Microsoft. With the potential widespread use of Windows 10 on PCs, one could possibly expect big name software providers to follow after the mass of users who will bee using Windows apps [e.g. Google final come begrudgedly to the table] and as a result Windows phones will see increased app support as a consequence.
SSgt Bruskowiz
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Yep getting curious.....
But still content with 8.1, so i don't feel the need of buying a other handset......yet.
But still content with 8.1, so i don't feel the need of buying a other handset......yet.
WP is dead in the water. They are pulling ideas out of their a**. It will probably be 2017 before Microsoft's vision becomes close to a reality. At that point they'll need to rename it back to WP7, because only 7 people will be using the device.
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salmanahmad
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We can't accurately predict what Windows 10 will do to the app gap, but I see two possible paths:
1) Because Windows 10 is the single OS to rule all types of devices, maybe developers will start to focus on Windows phones and you'll start to see more and better apps.
2) The second possible scenario is what happened with Flipboard, app developers can give time to polish their apps for PCs and tablets and forget Windows Phone by providing a **** poor app(or none at all).
For the sake of all WP users, I hope the first one is true.
The concept of Windows 10 is one of the most innovative initiatives for the PC (and possibly mobile) industry in mu opinion though. It is almost impossible not to imagine the possibilities; but what is questionable right now is how this vision will be executed. Microsoft needs to tread carefully, their last radical attempt with Windows 8 did not work out so well, so their learning from their mistakes. I appreciate your attempt to explain the difficulties of such a situation in such a nuanced and semi-aggressive opinion. Sadly, such an ignominious response about a Windows Phone dystopia may prove to be pernicious to what readers may think of Windows in the future. Essentially thought your argument holds no fact, is seems to be merely a bushwah attempt to express your frustration with Windows Phone.
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