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- It's an App for the Moto Atrix and is nothing like what I'm talking about which is a full phone/tablet hybrid which performs as a smartphone undocked but becomes a full X86 Windows PC when docked.
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WNxAshik likes this.01-23-2015 08:56 PMLike 1 - Share
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Regardless I doubt some of you really understand the ramifications what you are asking, in principle once a person becomes heavily invested on a device via personal data let alone corporate data then that device becomes priceless. Therefore irreplaceable, so if it was to become lost or stolen then more is lost than personal photos, music and contacts.
In this digital era, people are scanning & saving documents on their pc such as statements, tax return documents, passports, driving licenses etc in the place of a dupelicate paper copy.
So if a person saved all that on their sole computing device, in this case their phone... you can imagine the consequences would be beyond devastating.01-23-2015 09:18 PMLike 0 - I'm done with the stupidity in this thread.
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psudotechzealot likes this.01-23-2015 09:24 PMLike 1 - Share
- A phone is a phone, and a pc is a pc. All these spec wars boil down to people wanting their phone to replace their computer. It's not going to happen and any attempt at this point would scorch your thigh while sitting in your pocket.
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EMINENT 1 likes this.01-23-2015 09:45 PMLike 1 - Share
- I just want awesome battery life. Which is not going to happen if they create an Android beast.
#1 thing people want on a phone is for it to run longer. That's a winner and marketable. 4GB RAM is not going to help with that.
To come out and say (for example) runs for 2 whole days of good use, 5 of low use. That'll get attention.- Share
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TechFreak1 likes this.01-23-2015 10:01 PMLike 1 - Share
- A flagship with high-end specs and the Lumia 925's design, except slimmer. The Lumia 925 and 920 had the best designs imo. I wouldn't mind an improved Lumia 930, like the OP said though.
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Arhitecter likes this.01-23-2015 10:06 PMLike 1 - Share
- Look at ASUS Zenphone2 and its price, then comeback and tell me if these specs are gonna be overpriced.01-23-2015 10:15 PMLike 0
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for a flagship, I couldn't care less about the specs as long as it runs better than normal and can hold updates for the next 2 or 3 years
seriously, 1080p, 3 GB RAM, with Snapdragon 805 is enough for me...
but definitely not for Average Joe out there who are mostly spec-blinded noob- Share
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Arhitecter likes this.01-23-2015 10:56 PMLike 1 - Share
- Look, a dockable x86 Lumia phone, that becomes a PC when you connect it to a monitor, is not going to happen, at least not this particular iteration of Windows on phones. The hardware just isn't there yet.
Five to ten years from now? Who knows.01-23-2015 11:08 PMLike 0 - Seriously? Small cheap tablets running x86 Windows exist now. It can't be that hard or expensive to add a LTE radio to such a design.
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JamesDax likes this.01-23-2015 11:40 PMLike 1 - Share
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I don't understand why these stupid people are commenting about why there shouldn't be an intel SOC on a phone, That is not just a phone, its a machine that turns into a PC when docked, and so requires x86 architecture.
On the other hand, Cramming maximum specs onto the flagship ensures that future versions of the OS will also run smoothly on the device.
My time machine tells me that a lot of Lumia 920 users are gonna be disappointed when win10 hits their phones, because that exflagship isn't fast enough for the new universal apps and the OS or that win10 is a battery hogger(since 920 has a 2000mah battery).
It doesn't take 5to10 years, Motorola's WebTop was a good idea, but the hardware wasn't yet ready. If MS could imply something similar and use x86 architecture, it would be a definite win. I proposed intel SOC because x86>>ARM in terms of performance.
And you can easily pack a 3000mah battery onto a 5" device btw and look what 930 has..- Share
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01-23-2015 11:52 PMLike 3 - Share
- I don't think they bought Nokia's mobile phone team to put a run of the mill 20MP camera on their flagship smartphone. Nokia's bread and butter was photography, the camera has to be amazing on whatever flagship comes out.
I also don't understand what is the point of using an Intel chip if the OS version that runs on devices less than 8" has no access to legacy Windows programs. Docking is very niche and isn't really going to excite many people. You can dock 7" and 8" Atom tablets today, but how many people are tossing out their laptop or desktop for that solution. I'm not opposed to the idea as a feature, but I don't think it is a big selling point for the average person. The wow-factor isn't there because everyone already has a PC with a keyboard.
If they really want to impress and get some attention they should build a phone with no bezel, edge to edge display. Basically an iPhone 5.5" the size of an iPhone 4.7". It sounds crazy but it is doable. The total diagonal dimension of an iPhone 6 (4.7" model) is 6". The iPhone 6 body is bigger than the iPhone 6+ display. What a talking point it would be. Our big screen phone is smaller than Apple's little screen phone. Of course part of it is cheating, they would have to use on-screen buttons, but still. The TV commercials could hammer the competition on hardware design and specs. Hey Siri why the long face?Last edited by cool8man; 01-24-2015 at 12:17 AM.
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sahib lopez likes this.01-24-2015 12:03 AMLike 1 - Share
- I don't think they bought Nokia's mobile phone team to put a run of the mill 20MP camera on their flagship smartphone. Nokia's bread and butter was photography, the camera has to be amazing on whatever flagship comes out.
I also don't understand what is the point of using an Intel chip if the OS version that runs on devices less than 8" has no access to legacy Windows programs.
If they really want to impress and get some attention they should build a phone with no bezel, edge to edge display. Basically an iPhone 5.5" the size of an iPhone 4.7". It sounds crazy but it is doable. The total diagonal dimension of an iPhone 6 (4.7" model) is 6". The iPhone 6 body is bigger than the iPhone 6+ display. What a talking point it would be. Our big screen phone is smaller than Apple's little screen phone. Of course part of it is cheating, they would have to use on-screen buttons.
two brands with different level of recognition: you can't put a MICROSOFT flagship with an ASUS pricing
for a flagship, I couldn't care less about the specs as long as it runs better than normal and can hold updates for the next 2 or 3 years
seriously, 1080p, 3 GB RAM, with Snapdragon 805 is enough for me...
but definitely not for Average Joe out there who are mostly spec-blinded noob01-24-2015 12:10 AMLike 0 - I stated that MS should be using a hybrid variant of Win10 which can output a desktop OS through HDMI when docked and run the normal ARM based OS when HDMI output isn't being used. This one is clearly for productive people. Not for the avg customer.
My point was that, they could pack all of it and still price the device at 500-800$01-24-2015 12:19 AMLike 0 - You responded before my edit. I said: Docking is very niche and isn't really going to excite many people. You can dock 7" and 8" Atom tablets today, but how many people are tossing out their laptop or desktop for that solution. I'm not opposed to the idea as a feature, but I don't think it is a big selling point for the average person. The wow-factor isn't there because everyone already has a PC with a keyboard.01-24-2015 12:21 AMLike 0
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But there's really no need to call us stupid... we're just content with the quality and features of devices as is. The only time I wouldn't be content is when cool new features that sound applicable to my daily life are released that require better specs than my device has.01-24-2015 12:41 AMLike 0 - I wouldn't mind this (having a separate device or device line with such features) but I'd like them to also preserve a line dedicated to general purpose flagships that are a bit more affordable.
But there's really no need to call us stupid... we're just content with the quality and features of devices as is. The only time I wouldn't be content is when cool new features that sound applicable to my daily life are released that require better specs than my device has.01-24-2015 01:00 AMLike 0 - OnePlus One was cheap, though.
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WNxAshik likes this.01-24-2015 02:43 AMLike 1 - Share
- Snapdragon 810, 41mp camera, 5 inch 2k screen,sd card support and that's it Microsoft.
Sent from my awesome Lumia 735Last edited by colinkiama; 02-01-2015 at 12:22 PM.
02-01-2015 10:39 AMLike 0 - I was thinking that MS should release 2 flagships like the Surface series.
There should be 2 variants:
The Standard One:
Qualcomm SD 810 OctaCore 64-bit processor
32GB onboard storage
20MP camera and 5/8MP selfie cam
3/4GB of RAM
5" FHD/QHD Display(1080p/2k)
3050mAH Battery with Quickcharge 2.0
An evolved design from Lumia 930
The Revolutionary Pro One:
Intel Atom Quadcore 64-bit or an ULV i5/i3 series processor (x86 architecture).
64GB onboard storage
20MP primary cam and 8MP selfie cam
4/8GB of RAM
5.5/6" QHD Display(2k)
4080mAH Battery
An evolved design from Surface Pro 3.
MicroHDMI 2.0 support with output to 4k.
Now the Revolutionary side:
Since the device runs on x86, the device should be running a modded desktop/phone hybrid variant of Windows10. I mean when you use is as a phone, it runs on the phone UI. But If you give an output via HDMI, and connect a keyboard and mouse via Bluetooth or a dock, the device gives an output as a fully capable desktop OS, able to run legacy apps. The desktop variant will be in sync the phone apps and tasks.
It should be the merger of the gap between desktops and mobile devices. It will bring in a new era of devices where portability and productivity is in harmony.
If MS would ever do something like this, They would make windows10 an even cooler experience. And since the pro variant runs on x86, we could finally stream xbox one games onto it.
Comment your thoughts on it.
Posted via the Windows Central App for Android02-01-2015 10:44 AMLike 0 - 02-01-2015 10:56 AMLike 0
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Let Microsoft declare that the general "higher is better" specs race is stupid. I want Microsoft to focus on the things that matter in producing a really good smartphone. If humans don't need more than 1920x1080 in 5", don't put it in a phone. If the phone won't really benefit from 4GB RAM, don't put it in a phone. If those 8 cores reduce battery life without improving utility, don't put them in a phone, but if they do improve utility, keep them in. Give users a smaller/thinner, longer-lasting product that's cheaper and works better than what everyone else is selling.02-01-2015 02:09 PMLike 0 - I think you're on the right track, but Windows Phone has never been about having the best specs just so a victory flag can be raised for a month or two.
That said, I'd love a hybrid phone that could turn into a desktop with miracast to a monitor and wireless Bluetooth keyboard. But we aren't quite there yet. Nobody wants a phone with a short battery life. Real world numbers are not matching what Intel is claiming for their most efficient chips. One day...but not today.02-07-2015 10:24 AMLike 0
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