[daniel cooper2]

There are rumors out there that mobile 10586 is delayed due to it will brick your phone. Anybody have any more information on this ?

[ML10]

Just read that internal testers encounter a reboot loop after hard reset. Apparently, this is the RTM build.

[Sedp23]

Just read that internal testers encounter a reboot loop after hard reset. Apparently, this is the RTM build.

Where did u read this at

[manus31]

Just read that internal testers encounter a reboot loop after hard reset. Apparently, this is the RTM build.

Are you sure you weren't reading about an earlier build.What's your source ?

[midnightfrolic]

With the recent track records for some of the previous builds, I'd say it is quite possible it is not RTM ready. Time will tell. Be patient. I'm sure they're working as fast as humanly possible. Rome wasn't built in a day. And Jesus said he'd rebuild the city in 3 days. And supposedly, he's omnipotent.

I'd rather it be a stable build than releasing it prematurely.

[ML10]

Where did u read this at

Softpedia. I'm not saying its a reliable source, I'm just telling you what I saw. If its incorrect, I'm sorry.

[manus31]

Here's one of the many reports:

http://www.windows10update.com/2015/...rious-problem/

[Maurizio Troso]

Here's one of the many reports:

Windows 10 Mobile RTM Build 10586 Has A Serious Problem

The only official souge is Windows Central and Gabe

[anon(3463402)]

10586 can't be RTM.

Don't forget big jump from latest preview 10166 to RTM 10240 in PC builds.

Preview 10581 to RTM 10586 for mobile? I don't think so.

[sanu rajan1]

when it comes to mobile build anything can happen

[potter007]

Any one having this issue in 10581.... Edge keeps blinking and pages getting reloaded after minute or so after opening

[Maurizio Troso]

Any one having this issue in 10581.... Edge keeps blinking and pages getting reloaded after minute or so after opening

Search in forum in existing bugs thread or open a new one and ask ;)

[msirapian]

The only official souge is Windows Central and Gabe

The only official source is Microsoft. WC is a reliable source, but certainly not "official" o_O

NPU reported 10586 bricked a 930, ok, and so what? WMPU have 10586 on their devices, and it seems to run pretty well.

Its possible we'll have a 10586.000x update, pretty quick.

[DavidinCT]

Not sure how people are claiming a RTM at this point. 10581 is still very buggy and is not claimed a RC yet (release canadate).

Microsoft always shows a few RC before hitting RTM. I've been following Microsoft from Windows 3.1 and was in many beta programs (not preview programs) going back to Windows 95, They ALWAYS have a RC or 2 before hitting RTM....

Even Gabe didn't claim 10581 was a RC.....

[ML10]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/windo...d-495817.shtml

[pankaj981]

Even Gabe didn't claim 10581 was a RC.....

In pretty sure Gabe won't claim anything till RTM. Secondly 10586 can certainly be RTM with only bug fixes and performance improvements.

[msirapian]

Exactly. Once they've chosen a RTM build, they will "finish" it. Like 10240 for PC, etc.

[DavidinCT]

Windows 10 Mobile 10586 Video and Screenshots Leaked - Softpedia

Not sure what that proves....

Although "rumors claim Windows 10 Mobile build 10586 is the likely RTM for the mobile platform"

Let's replace rumors with fact here.

No RC yet, means no RTM yet, 10851 is still very buggy here and there (a lot better than past builds no question), so it's far from RTM, unless they are not just sending anything down to us and keeping all builds internal.

In pretty sure Gabe won't claim anything till RTM. Secondly 10586 can certainly be RTM with only bug fixes and performance improvements.

Nah, Gabe has called on RC version on Windows 10 PC before, look over his twitter history. RC is a canadate for RTM, it's kind of final check and last bug fixes before RTM.

[rhapdog]

Exactly. Once they've chosen a RTM build, they will "finish" it. Like 10240 for PC, etc.

And just like 10240 for PC, the RTM they choose for mobile may or may not be free of bugs, so don't say it can't happen because of bugs. 10240 proved that.

Besides, once a phone is on W10M, it gets updates after that from Microsoft without the carrier being able to stop it, which means bug fixes along the way is very possible. I hope they'll have the bugs fixed first, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[ML10]

Not sure what that proves....

Although "rumors claim Windows 10 Mobile build 10586 is the likely RTM for the mobile platform"

Let's replace rumors with fact here.

No RC yet, means no RTM yet, 10851 is still very buggy here and there (a lot better than past builds no question), so it's far from RTM, unless they are not just sending anything down to us and keeping all builds internal.



Nah, Gabe has called on RC version on Windows 10 PC before, look over his twitter history. RC is a canadate for RTM, it's kind of final check and last bug fixes before RTM.

I didn't say anything was factual. The OP didn't really specify whether he wanted the facts or everything, rumors included.

[PepperdotNet]

I don't know what's an RC or RTM at this point but one thing I did notice, as of 10581 the About page designates it as "Windows 10 Mobile" not "Insider Preview."

[msirapian]

I don't know what's an RC or RTM at this point but one thing I did notice, as of 10581 the About page designates it as "Windows 10 Mobile" not "Insider Preview."

To elaborate on this, for the first time, the Microsoft licence/EULA presented at the very beginning (after a hard reset) was NOT refering to WP8.1 as before, was dated July 2015 and not 2014, was in English and not in French (I have a FR ROM/SIM). So it looks like even the EULA part has switched to the W10 standard (and the French terms are not yet ready).

[mkenyon2]

With the recent track records for some of the previous builds, I'd say it is quite possible it is not RTM ready. Time will tell. Be patient. I'm sure they're working as fast as humanly possible. Rome wasn't built in a day. And Jesus said he'd rebuild the city in 3 days. And supposedly, he's omnipotent.

As an aside... Jesus said he'd rebuild Jerusalem in 3 days, but he was also speaking figuratively. It's his father who's omnipotent. We don't know what OS they prefer.

[Nicholas Ek]

How can something that was never announced be delayed?

[jdballard]

10586 can't be RTM.

Don't forget big jump from latest preview 10166 to RTM 10240 in PC builds.

Preview 10581 to RTM 10586 for mobile? I don't think so.

Previous build numbers have nothing to do with it. The latest PC build 10586 is reportedly the RTM version, so why wouldn't the phone be the same way (assuming the latest reports of it bricking phones aren't true)?