04-02-2018 09:32 AM
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  1. Al Sacco's Avatar
    So, the Windows 10 "Spring Creators Update" (at least I think that's what it will be called), a.k.a., "Redstone 4," should be released any day now. It's definitely spring time. And I'm anxious for that official release. With Microsoft hitting the Redstone 4 release-to-manufacturers (RTM) milestone, it shouldn’t too far off.

    For Insider Program members, a new major Windows release can mean it's a good time to opt-out for a while. Why? Read this useful post by Windows Central writer Mauro Huculak.

    Will you opt out, or remain in the same Ring you're in? Why or why not?
    03-28-2018 06:08 AM
  2. applesea's Avatar
    I usually do this because the beginning development of a new build is very buggy with very unpolished features
    Bobcat665 likes this.
    03-31-2018 03:24 PM
  3. The SilentMajority's Avatar
    Yep, I'm opting out. Due to my reduced enthusiasm for the program with no new hardware. I'm waiting until fall to upgrade home computers. Until then the older units we have need the more stable software.
    03-31-2018 03:31 PM
  4. WillBthr's Avatar
    Older test computer, no.
    Others, yes.
    03-31-2018 04:07 PM
  5. EssThree's Avatar
    Honestly, since the last year's spring update (what was that called? The first creator's update? Man, this naming scheme is getting stupid) I've been jumping onboard near RTM and jumping back off again. Mostly because - I don't know if it's my desktop getting old or what - I'm finding the insider builds seem to be green screening more for no reason at all. even late in the development cycle.

    Also I'm relying more on my desktop for doing work-work at home, so I can't put up with that reduced reliability. Honestly, come the RTM of Redstone 5, I will probably not even bother getting back onto the fast ring. Not enough is being added to justify the bugginess (unlike earlier builds of Win10, when it was a treat to get onto a new development branch ASAP).
    03-31-2018 04:25 PM
  6. Stephen Kirts's Avatar
    I'll out on my SURFACE BOOK, probably not on my SURFACE PRO. I enjoy the thrill of new updates but also want a stable platform to do work.
    03-31-2018 04:30 PM
  7. Stephen Kirts's Avatar
    Also depends on what changes Nadella makes
    03-31-2018 04:33 PM
  8. JT Daddy's Avatar
    I can't even get the 17133 build saying I keep getting this error that says "windows could not configure one or more system components"
    03-31-2018 05:10 PM
  9. Sunstorming's Avatar
    Already stopped Windows Insider updates after this coming on the fast ring the other day. I will not re-opt into fast builds next time, just Slow. And even Slow, it will be well into its development cycle. I will tell you why:


    No matter how cool the new features seem on the first batch of Fast ring updates, it's not worth the problems. And then, even on the Slow ring updates, something ALWAYS breaks part of my experience. Always. And guess what? Go Back to a Previous Build has worked *ONE TIME* for me. I have been on Insider since 2015. This means I have to redownload a new Surface image, and force it to boot from USB. But oops! I forgot to turn off Bitlocker!! Nevermind that getting the image is a PITA, and getting to boot from USB is a PITA, and the UEFI BIOS is a PITA, ….. grrr….


    So, yeah I am done with Insider for a few months this time around. Same goes for my XBOX one s.
    03-31-2018 06:34 PM
  10. Sunstorming's Avatar
    I can't even get the 17133 build saying I keep getting this error that says "windows could not configure one or more system components"
    My buddy is stuck on the Fall Update. I told him to re-image. Once Windows Update starts ******* up in Windows 10, its over. There are no fixes. Just reimage and save yourself a lot of headaches.
    03-31-2018 06:36 PM
  11. JT Daddy's Avatar
    That looks like it costs money, which is something I'm trying to be strict about, so that looks like a no go for me...
    03-31-2018 06:53 PM
  12. jlangner's Avatar
    Already swapped to release level. Will wait till July or so then go back.
    03-31-2018 06:53 PM
  13. Sunstorming's Avatar
    That looks like it costs money, which is something I'm trying to be strict about, so that looks like a no go for me...
    Re-imaging doesn't cost anything really. You just need to back up your important data and make sure you can reinstall all the software you use. Just start over. I really cannot tell you why, in this day and age, Microsoft cannot do undo updates. But they can't.
    Bobcat665 likes this.
    03-31-2018 08:19 PM
  14. netmann's Avatar
    I thought of this a lot earlier...I opted-out when the FCU hit!
    03-31-2018 09:43 PM
  15. Cbarnhorst's Avatar
    No, I'm not opting out on any Insider devices. I'm in for the long haul.
    Rahsna Asurac and Hans Swolfs like this.
    03-31-2018 11:07 PM
  16. Rahsna Asurac's Avatar
    Will you opt out, or remain in the same Ring you're in? Why or why not?
    On my work device, yes. It was never meant for that. But my real work device, SP4 i7, got a jumping screen all the time now, and heating it up, not longer works. Yes, heating it up.

    On my insider PC? (Yes, I have got a dedicated test device!) Absolutely not.
    In fact, I plan on changing from Fast ring to Skip ahead, as soon as that opens up again, for my country :)
    I was originally in Skip ahead, but after having done the biggest quest in Feedback Hub there were (testing the new privacy OOBE, which required complete reinstall), I was thrown out of that ring. Apparently, that was Microsoft's way of thanking me for that tremendous task :P
    03-31-2018 11:35 PM
  17. Rahsna Asurac's Avatar
    No matter how cool the new features seem on the first batch of Fast ring updates, it's not worth the problems. And then, even on the Slow ring updates, something ALWAYS breaks part of my experience. Always. And guess what? Go Back to a Previous Build has worked *ONE TIME* for me. I have been on Insider since 2015. This means I have to redownload a new Surface image, and force it to boot from USB. But oops! I forgot to turn off Bitlocker!! Nevermind that getting the image is a PITA, and getting to boot from USB is a PITA, and the UEFI BIOS is a PITA, ….. grrr….

    But that is what it is all about :D!
    It is all about the tech stuff and having to spend tedious time trying to figure out how to reproduce the bug. Then spend more time looking for any existing feedback in Feedback Hub that even sounds slightly similar, and if nothing is there already, spend even more time writing about it yourself, making sure you are not misunderstood in the process xD … and doing the repro one more time... then the Feedback Hub either crashes, or stops recording, or your bug is no longer reproduceable, while the recorder is on … yeah ^_^
    Last edited by Rahsna Asurac; 04-01-2018 at 12:26 AM. Reason: Quick repry did not work the way I expected it would ^^"
    03-31-2018 11:48 PM
  18. Hans Swolfs's Avatar
    Not opting out this time... I did so after the FCU. But got back in when Timeline was introduced.

    I have 2 devices : desktop on fast and my sp3 on skip ahead. I know I probably sign in again when a nice feature is released.

    Also I must say that the 2 or 3 builds I got on Skip Ahead weren't as buggy as the first releases of the FCU.

    So, no, Insider for life 😂
    Rahsna Asurac likes this.
    04-01-2018 12:51 AM
  19. anthonyng's Avatar
    Need to give my surface 3 a break, some dicey moments there and it's more a family tablet now, give the kids a break from waiting for updates each time they login lol

    Other are work computers I need stability with
    04-01-2018 01:55 AM
  20. Dra_st's Avatar
    I plan on remaining in the Release Preview or maybe even opting out completely once RS4 hits. I used to jump in and out of the Insider Program before the previous updates, so not sure whether I will be staying in this time around.
    04-01-2018 03:11 AM
  21. Richard Toft's Avatar
    No, I'll stick with it on my test machine, I've never run the insider builds on my main device.
    Rahsna Asurac likes this.
    04-01-2018 04:42 AM
  22. darren walsh1's Avatar
    I installed the rtm from an ISO and I can't even opt in! any ideas why??
    04-01-2018 06:15 AM
  23. JaySeeDoubleYou's Avatar
    My actual policy itself will probably remain the same: I have two Windows 10 devices: a big DIY gaming PC which is not on the insider program, nor will it probably ever be, and a cheapie little off-brand Windows 2-in-1 that is on the fast ring and will remain that way until the day I retire it.

    However, what has been changing is that as that 2-in-1 (specificaly, a Nextbook Flexx 11) has been aging very ungracefully, it has been creating its own counter-incentive to using it, causing the actual level of my "on the ground" involvement in the insider program to have sort of gone off a cliff. So, when I say "until I retire it", it's really not that far from being retired already.

    In fact, as a vivid illustration of this: when I fired it up the other day, I was surprised and disappointed in myself to have found that it had been so long since it was used that it was still on one of the final builds of the rs3 branch.

    This lack of in-depth involvement in the program has led to cooling enthusiasm about it in general for me, though I am still on-board with it at the ideological level, and remain interested enough that I still at least skim every article that WC puts out about new builds - and pay extra special attention during the more exciting phases of the cycles when they're bringing in all the fun new features. :-)

    I dunno. Maybe I'll invest in a slightly less cheapie 2-in-1 (or at least in another new super-cheapie, like the Flexx that hasn't aged poorly...yet) and get back to taking the insider program more seriously. And maybe I'll put that gaming rig on release preview, or something. In the meanwhile, I am, "on paper", a member of the insider program, and a believer in /advocate for the program, but am not really very engaged, nor am likely to become so again anytime soon.

    Cheers!
    Rahsna Asurac likes this.
    04-01-2018 06:29 AM
  24. dbam987's Avatar
    So, the Windows 10 "Spring Creators Update" (at least I think that's what it will be called), a.k.a., "Redstone 4," should be released any day now. It's definitely spring time. And I'm anxious for that official release. With Microsoft hitting the Redstone 4 release-to-manufacturers (RTM) milestone, it shouldn’t too far off.

    For Insider Program members, a new major Windows release can mean it's a good time to opt-out for a while. Why? Read this useful post by Windows Central writer Mauro Huculak.

    Will you opt out, or remain in the same Ring you're in? Why or why not?
    I've been meaning to jump back into the insider releases for some time now. I'll setup a virtual machine instead though as I have work related items that need a stable environment.
    04-01-2018 07:57 AM
  25. Raylz's Avatar
    my older laptop yes my current one no, insider for life lol
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    04-01-2018 08:12 AM
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