11-29-2010 07:12 AM
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  1. Light Speed1's Avatar
    "I understand that 6.5 had turn by turn, but 6.5 also had about 1.8 million things that WP7 still doesn't have. "

    like what, copy and paste? oh wait its coming in january in an update.
    11-22-2010 05:02 PM
  2. spitothec's Avatar
    I don't have time to make a comprehensive list of what 7 is lacking compared to 6.5 but a quick browse through this very forum has most of it.
    11-22-2010 06:58 PM
  3. Light Speed1's Avatar
    I don't have time to make a comprehensive list of what 7 is lacking compared to 6.5 but a quick browse through this very forum has most of it.
    the point im trying to make is that many things that its missing are minor (no matter how major or important you think they are), and they are being included in an update in january.... consumers care more about turn-by-turn navigation than tethering, so navigation obviously takes priority.
    11-22-2010 09:13 PM
  4. gibbyhome's Avatar
    any word from the Microsoft Man ??
    11-27-2010 11:22 AM
  5. MarcMaiden's Avatar
    im still waiting to hear from him. Its been a crazy week for all of us, Im sure ill be hearing from him soon to see how the black friday weekend went
    11-27-2010 06:04 PM
  6. Lorenzo0917's Avatar
    My wife and I just got the HTC Surround and LG Quantum and so far we are not very happy with them. Here is the list of things that we found.

    1. PC installed Activesync no longer available. My wife did not want to have to upload all her local contacts, calendar and emails from Outlook into a new hotmail account and then download them to her phone. That is the only option.
    2. Camera setting changes do not stick. Very annoying when you want to take pictures.
    3. Pictures on the LG are blurry. Being photographers, we wanted the photos to be somewhat sharp. They are on my EVO 4g and her IPHONE 3G.
    4. Removing an already configured email account was not possible. We had setup an active sync connection to a hotmail account that we wanted to remove. Only solution was to reset the phone to factory defaults.

    So far that is what I have found. I am sure as I use the phone more in the coming days, I will find more challenges. I hope MS will releasing an update soon.
    I think the LG will probably be replaced with the IPHONE 4 very soon.

    Lorenzo
    11-27-2010 09:44 PM
  7. nrfitchett4's Avatar
    My wife and I just got the HTC Surround and LG Quantum and so far we are not very happy with them. Here is the list of things that we found.

    1. PC installed Activesync no longer available. My wife did not want to have to upload all her local contacts, calendar and emails from Outlook into a new hotmail account and then download them to her phone. That is the only option.
    2. Camera setting changes do not stick. Very annoying when you want to take pictures.
    3. Pictures on the LG are blurry. Being photographers, we wanted the photos to be somewhat sharp. They are on my EVO 4g and her IPHONE 3G.
    4. Removing an already configured email account was not possible. We had setup an active sync connection to a hotmail account that we wanted to remove. Only solution was to reset the phone to factory defaults.

    So far that is what I have found. I am sure as I use the phone more in the coming days, I will find more challenges. I hope MS will releasing an update soon.
    I think the LG will probably be replaced with the IPHONE 4 very soon.

    Lorenzo
    1. You can use outlook extender to get your contacts onto your phone. It is in the marketplace, but no there is no activesync anymore.
    2. Known issue. Microsoft did that by design. We are hoping that it gets changed in the first update.
    3. My photos have been fine, only motion shots are blurry (as every picture I've ever taken with any phone). I'm suprised any prof. photographer would be happy with any mobile phone shots.
    4. The only email you can't delete is the one setup for windows live (first hotmail acct used). The rest can be deleted by long pressing on the acct under settings/ emails and accounts.

    If you aren't willing to give the OS time to grow, then you would probably be happier with another phone.
    11-28-2010 07:35 PM
  8. briguy992's Avatar
    Figured this probably won't warrant its own thread for now (though he does promise details, possibly screenshots later today).

    Windows Phone Update To Be Massive

    Next update is "massive" and he claims they could have called it Windows Phone 8. He says they've also been working on this since before V1 shipped. This is a fairly common practice since the code branch gets shut down months before launch / shipping to test it, and some engineers will start work on the first big update, so the rest of the team can smoothly transition to the big update when they're done bug-hunting on the first version.

    Can't wait for details, if he actually follows through and releases them!
    11-29-2010 05:14 AM
  9. GP07's Avatar
    Figured this probably won't warrant its own thread for now (though he does promise details, possibly screenshots later today).

    Windows Phone Update To Be Massive

    Next update is "massive" and he claims they could have called it Windows Phone 8. He says they've also been working on this since before V1 shipped. This is a fairly common practice since the code branch gets shut down months before launch / shipping to test it, and some engineers will start work on the first big update, so the rest of the team can smoothly transition to the big update when they're done bug-hunting on the first version.

    Can't wait for details, if he actually follows through and releases them!
    Ya, we know WP7 RTMed in early Sept but when did they sign-off on the code before they put it through testing is the key. It could've been a month before that, so really 4 or so months to work on a update is a good chunk of time. The more things they can add the better.
    11-29-2010 06:36 AM
  10. briguy992's Avatar
    Ya, we know WP7 RTMed in early Sept but when did they sign-off on the code before they put it through testing is the key. It could've been a month before that, so really 4 or so months to work on a update is a good chunk of time. The more things they can add the better.
    Well it was likely well before a month that the code started to get frozen. Plus, before the code was frozen, a few weeks before that strings were frozen as well, which basically means no major user-facing parts can change (code is still in flux though), because they have to get the translations finished! I would say prob 2 months before that or so it started to get frozen, which meant that this update will have been worked on for about 6 months I'd say by the time it gets released (assuming a Jan release date).

    Plus, I'm sure once they scoped out V1 a LONG time ago (probably last year once the pieces started to fall into place more), they knew what they would want in the updates, so I'm sure this has been scheduled and planned for a long time, which is how they've been able to do a lot of work in what seems like little time.

    Still can't wait for details though. :)
    11-29-2010 07:12 AM
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