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  1. Pete C's Avatar
    I'm glad that you're happy with a non-competitive phone that's behind the competition with a broken OS that no one seems to be trying to fix. If I wanted something that didn't operate as intended, I'd buy a British car.
    There are not nearly enough issues to say the OS is "broken".
    03-15-2011 10:38 PM
  2. spitothec's Avatar
    There are not nearly enough issues to say the OS is "broken".
    If you'd like, I'll compile a list showing how every single aspect of the phone is in some way bugged. Unfotunately, it'll take some time.
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    03-15-2011 11:00 PM
  3. Exomondo's Avatar
    It's a broken operating system being updated by a broken company being ran on phones with broken firmware.
    I'm not sure you quite know the meaning of the word 'broken'.

    All platforms have initial teething problems and deriding a company from withholding potentially problematic updates until they are ready is not productive. This happens all the time in the tech industry we all know this as we have seen it time and time again, yet with every new product line there's always a newbie who says 'not this time, this time it will be different' and then complains when the inevitable teething problems begin to surface. For example the first iPhone lacked some features that had been standard for years and they weren't introduced until a later update of the second generation device.

    The current OS is no more 'broken' than any other the other major players. It certainly lacks many features of its competitors, but it also offers a number of unique features. WP7 really does have potential and MS should push it hard but you must be new to the industry if you believed it would break the trend and be everything to everyone from the get-go.
    03-15-2011 11:16 PM
  4. nrfitchett4's Avatar
    Okay guys I have officially just received some very very annoyingly sh!tty info, and mgarcia I am truly sorry for sh!tting on your case all the time as I am officially now almost completely doubting Microsoft and the future of this OS. Now while I cannot divulge specifics WP7 lovers are gonna read what I'm about to say and dismiss it as trying to start rumors, however I am a WP7 lover myself and particularly really disliked mgarcia for hating on it, and I am very very stubborn, so for me to apologize to him should be enough proof to all of you if not, then quite frankly I could care less whether you believe me or not. Okay for the juicy bit. I have a friend that works in the higher ups at a particular carrier that's gonna receive a particular windows phone 7 device very soon... and while having a conversation with him about windows phone 7, he had told me that Microsoft will not be releasing NoDo until after this device has released. (*cough* march 21st *cough*) so lets chalk one up to capitalism for Microsoft! Again sorry for ragging on you so much mgarcia.
    UMM, how was this insider info on mar14??? MS had already officially delayed nodo until second half of march by this post....
    I'd rather wait 2 extra weeks and get a working update across 99% of the phones then to release one that may have problems on certain oem's (thanks samsung for having broken bootloaders)
    Not to mention this update has been ready since december, but the damn carriers are a PIA. That is the part I want to see fixed. Carriers need to get out of the way.

    I agree with you, OP (postscript included). Suffice it to say, Microsoft's handling of the updates is unacceptable and worrisome. Yes, I can try to comfort myself by repeating trite things like "they're in it for the long haul", etc. but I'm concerned that either they 1) just don't get it and/or 2) they're hindered by their corporate culture. Yes, I don't want them to push an update that breaks phones but it's perfectly reasonable to expect that bug fixes would have come a long time ago, that NoDo would have been delivered in a timely and transparent manner and that NoDo would address more issues. I'll be so happy if this debacle just turns out to be a case of them getting their sea legs and not the beginning of a larger pattern of oopswedidn'tdoitagain.

    (Of course, even though I just called Microsoft's actions (or lack thereof) unacceptable, I will accept them because I have no other choice. I'm a refugee from Windows Mobile, a supporter of several Microsoft products (Windows Live, Zune, Windows Media Center, Xbox, Office) and a prisoner of a two year contract. As much as I complain, I'm not going anywhere and I still strongly believe in the potential of the platform.)
    What are all these issues? Besides marketplace closes, what other problems are y'all having? I've been forced to soft reset my phone TWICE since november, once while watching a video it froze and soft reset itself (very handy) and once I had no volume that led to a soft reset. I haven't even seen the marketplace bug in over 2 months.

    And if they don't update when you want them to, then what? Guys, they have explained that they are not the only player in this ecosystem. They have to balance the hardware makers and carrier's patches as well as theirs in the delivery. Eric Hautala stated in an Windows Phone podcast interview that all carriers have different testing procedures and cycles. He explained that some carriers make take longer to test than others because of there testing methods and they want to make sure that the updates work properly on their networks. This is the same for Andriod and iPhone. He also said that its not that a carrier is blocking an update, but they may require longer to test and so they may request the update be bundled with the next update. So everyone will get the update.

    We all have choses in this. If you are not happy with the way WP7 updates come, then move on. Either you support the platform or you can choose to move on to another platform since you seem to think they are doing it much better. Let know how that works out for you.
    agreed. And I thought all the crying about wp7 was being done on xda...

    Well, RIM doesn't ever update their OS, so not sure what some of you are talking about. I have a Tour right now, and it hasn't got an update in ages, and by the way the OS is extremely buggy. And the hardware is the worst I have ever seen (On Tour number 5 right now).

    I think the update cycle for WP7 is fine. From what I have seen of it, I think the biggest thing to get fixed right now is all the Marketplace bugs. Sure C&P would be nice, but I could wait for it. I think the bigger issue is the OEM's making devices. They simply don't care about Sprint or VZW. It's sad, but that is the reason I am going to be kept waiting until next year to move to WP7, not because of any OS issues. I'll just say this, any mobile OS has alot of things that suck about them. Android SMS is barely functional, RIM needs a battery pull every day for freezes, and WP7 has serious Marketplace issues. Just a fact of life I guess.
    I could care less about copy and paste, just give me the speed enhancements and marketplace fix...
    I wouldn't call the marketplace issues severe, I haven't even seen them in 2 months.

    man, wish all I had to do all day was worry about NODO. Unfortunately I have to work. All the handwringing has to hurt.

    I am not a WP7 fanatic and would like to see MS get their fecal matter together but to start the ditch the WP7 phone campaign because the cut and paste update is late.....so freaking what. ALL of us bought this device knowing it was new and a work in progress.

    I bought my Focus because even it its current state it fits my world. I could give 2 craps if I have custom ringtones, if I can jailbreak it or not (personally I think you guys are nuts voiding the warranty) if I can copy and paste and on and on.

    Seems like many of you wouldn't be satisfied unless the damn phone cooks and cleans for you and even if it did you would complain about the food being undercooked or the floor not being vacuumed correctly. I will give it a chance because as a software product manager who has to balance so many things to get to a successful release I know it isn't easy. I can wait.

    So in the meantime go have a beer, relax. It's not the end of the world.
    agreed.
    I bought the phone because it had everything I needed. slingbox, netflix, zune, games. My phone is a toy only.

    If Microsoft keeps behaving as you seem comfortable for them doing.....then you'll be left with a stagnant ecosystem that you'll eventually ditch anyways.

    We're advocating for a competitive Microsoft that serves its customers and it's own best interests.

    It's getting no love from the bigger tech enthusiast audience, while Android and iPhone are bringing home the bacon with consumer awareness.

    Trendsetters.....they do just that, they set trends. If Microsoft thinks it's gonna set the market ablaze by attracting the people who want smart phones that don't do as much as the others, then they are in trouble.

    ****, I've been trying to talk my mom into a LG Quantom, but it's an uphill battle to even TALK her out of an iPhone because "it has all the apps". Never mind we know she'll never not find an app she wants on WP7.
    tech enthusiasts are not enough of the market, if it was then winmo wouldn't have failed. Why are you trying to talk your mom into a phone she doesn't want? Apparently she's smart enough to know that wp7 won't meet her needs. Apparently you didn't realize that for yourself.

    Sometimes I think I'm the only person that even cares if WP7 is a GOOD operating system.. It's a broken operating system being updated by a broken company being ran on phones with broken firmware.

    I tried WP7 for a couple months, and I loved it. Guess what? It's still broken and apparently I'm one of eleven people in this world that realize how great this operating system CAN be and how far it currently is from that.

    If wanting a product I love to work the way it's supposed to makes me not in my "right mind", then lock me up. If the future of the mobile OS market is filled with fanatics that don't care if their product works correctly or is living up to it's potential, I'm going to need to find some REALLY big batteries for my laptop.



    I'm glad that your phones operates quickly and smoothly, mine does too.. until I find one of the hundreds of glitches in the OS and I end up with a blank screen or one of the other random errors the phone creates any given hour of any given day.. the same problems that the readers of this forum encounter, because I don't think there's a single problem that my phone has that someone else hasn't already started a thread about.

    iOS was updated more frequently in it's first year than it is now. If my memory serves, they sent out their first update within 96 hours of launch. Comparing our update cycle to Apples will never, ever end in our favor :(



    I'm glad that you're happy with a non-competitive phone that's behind the competition with a broken OS that no one seems to be trying to fix. If I wanted something that didn't operate as intended, I'd buy a British car.
    IOS had to issue a bug fix the first 96 hours. The only bug fix I can see MS doing is marketplace and push notifications.
    My phone isn't broken. What you are describing sounds like stock winmo. Constant freezes, lag, stuttering UI. None of this has happened on my hd7. I haven't even soft reset in probably a week and never have had to delete a text message either so the sms app would open right. Matter of fact, I tried to lock it up sending hundreds of sms and I couldn't do it.

    If you'd like, I'll compile a list showing how every single aspect of the phone is in some way bugged. Unfotunately, it'll take some time.
    Please do. I'd like to see this. All these bugs that are crashing wp7. And don't mean the occasional program close, I've seen that on all os's. But real bugs like the marketplace bug that are reproduceable across all phones on the platform.
    03-16-2011 12:30 AM
  5. Verizon Hopeful's Avatar
    If you are tired of waiting, then move on. No one is forcing your hand. You have tons of options.
    Of course no one is forcing my hand. Just because I voice a contrary opinion about WP7 and don't come off as a "fanboy" who laps up everything Microsoft dishes out, no question asked, doesn't mean I'm so dissatisfied that I'm willing to ditch Windows Phone. As an interested future consumer of a WP7 device, I don't mind providing Microsoft an opinion that suggests they can do better. Microsoft needs to hear that at least some consumers are frustrated by their actions. I'm hoping that if they hear it enough, then maybe they'll make changes for the better.

    So Wheelerk, I'm sorry if all posts on these forums aren't cheering Microsoft on and you have to come into contact with posts that you might think are negative. At the end of the day, this forum is about an open exchange of ideas. I'm willing to read posts that are contrary to my opinion. I hope you are too.
    Last edited by Verizon Hopeful; 03-16-2011 at 01:24 AM.
    03-16-2011 01:11 AM
  6. Verizon Hopeful's Avatar
    And if they don't update when you want them to, then what? Guys, they have explained that they are not the only player in this ecosystem. They have to balance the hardware makers and carrier's patches as well as theirs in the delivery.

    We all have choses [sic] in this. If you are not happy with the way WP7 updates come, then move on. Either you support the platform or you can choose to move on to another platform ...
    For me, it's not about either blindly accepting Microsoft's statements about their approach to providing updates or "moving on". For me, it's not about either "supporting the platform" or "moving on".

    In fact, I support the platform. I really want WP7 to succeed. I just don't believe that Microsoft's update approach will help them get to a large market share. I don't see anything wrong with being an activist consumer and letting Microsoft know how I feel. Quite frankly, I feel that it's Microsoft who can either take my comments to heart or "move on" to do what they want. For me, it's of little consequence. For Microsoft, the consequences are potentially huge if they choose to ignore feedback from consumers.
    03-16-2011 01:22 AM
  7. nrfitchett4's Avatar
    Of course no one is forcing my hand. Just because I voice a contrary opinion about WP7 and don't come off as a "fanboy" who laps up everything Microsoft dishes out, no question asked, doesn't mean I'm so dissatisfied that I'm willing to ditch Windows Phone. As an interested future consumer of a WP7 device, I don't mind providing Microsoft an opinion that suggests they can do better. Microsoft needs to hear that at least some consumers are frustrated by their actions. I'm hoping that if they hear it enough, then maybe they'll make changes for the better.

    So Wheelerk, I'm sorry if all posts on these forums aren't cheering Microsoft on and you have to come into contact with posts that you might think are negative. At the end of the day, this forum is about an open exchange of ideas. I'm willing to read posts that are contrary to my opinion. I hope you are too.
    you can contact MS through:
    Microsoft Support
    info about what MS is doing with wp7 here:
    Windows Phone Blog
    on twitter: @windowsphone
    I usually get responses to tweets in as little as a few minutes, but definitely in 24 hours.
    facebook: Windows Phone | Facebook

    I guess some of us that are really excited to have a windows phone device that works and doesn't freeze 5 times a day, are just getting frustrated by all the negativity.
    03-16-2011 02:18 AM
  8. Verizon Hopeful's Avatar
    I guess some of us that are really excited to have a windows phone device that works and doesn't freeze 5 times a day, are just getting frustrated by all the negativity.
    I really hope that the bar for performance is set much higher than simply having a phone that works and doesn't freeze 5 times a day. I think we need to reset expectations. For me, in 2011, the bar is set much higher because those are things that I expect at a minimum, when I purchase a phone. Given the level of competition from other smartphone operating systems, I expect much more from WP7.

    Oh, and while I appreciate the links to Microsoft support websites, blogs and twitter accounts, this forum is exactly where I want to state my opinions.
    03-16-2011 02:49 AM
  9. nrfitchett4's Avatar
    I really hope that the bar for performance is set much higher than simply having a phone that works and doesn't freeze 5 times a day. I think we need to reset expectations. For me, in 2011, the bar is set much higher because those are things that I expect at a minimum, when I purchase a phone. Given the level of competition from other smartphone operating systems, I expect much more from WP7.

    Oh, and while I appreciate the links to Microsoft support websites, blogs and twitter accounts, this forum is exactly where I want to state my opinions.
    so you just want to complain about it then...

    got it.
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    03-16-2011 02:58 AM
  10. Luisraul924's Avatar
    so you just want to complain about it then...

    got it.
    Ha! Lmfao that one was funny.
    03-16-2011 04:47 AM
  11. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Blah! Screw the roadmap when thing are buggy as hell NOW. Having to do resets due to tiles not working (Music and Video, Marketplace). Having ALL songs downloaded from Zune skip the last 5 seconds of the song EVERYTIME. You can't compare features COMING to WP7 to what's already available. It's not like other OSs is just going to sit back and not upgrade also.
    @sdchris. Yeah, there are some on the forum that that talk about WP7 being buggy...if you were new you would think the phones were not working and bricked. I have owned my Samsung Focus since Nov 8th and I am completely satisfied with it in its current state. I have had a 32GB Kingston Class 4 card installed in it so I have plenty storage. The phone is simply amazing. The iPhone and Andriod with their static icons pale in comparison to WP7. WP7 is truley a data aggragator, giving you the information you need at a glance. The iPhone and Andriod are merely application launchers. Thats why they need sooo many applications to make up for the lack of functionality in the OS. They need an App for everything. WP7 being a totally new phone OS (nothing brought over from WM6) is superior in most areas. To be honest, most of the things that folks in the forum complain about, I don't even notice on my phone. I think I could have used copy and paste maybe a 2 times. If they stop complaining about when an update is coming, and pay attention to the WP7 roadmap, they will see the great things that are coming. Might I add that most of the complainers don't even have WP7!!! M$ is building an ecosystem to support WP7 that the competition can't compete with. Features like IE9 with hardware acceleration. The same IE9 engine thats being released today on desktops is coming to WP7. The same IE9 that smoked Chrome 11 in performance test. Twitter integration directly into the People Hub. Full support for Office documents on the Skydrive. A sweet multitasking task switcher that will allow you to move from app to app quickly resume where you were. More integation with XBOX Live to include kinect. I'm just naming a few. So there is a bright future ahead for WP7. We just need to be patient with the update process as they work things out and stop drinking the posion of some on this forum who will never be satisfied.
    Oh, btw, Chrome is far superior to IE. That's why MS tried to copy it.
    03-16-2011 08:49 AM
  12. wheelerk's Avatar
    If you'd like, I'll compile a list showing how every single aspect of the phone is in some way bugged. Unfotunately, it'll take some time.
    @mgarcia...I'm starting to think that this is what you do for a living. COMPLAIN!!! I don't think you even own a WP7. If you do, I will say it again...Don't use it or sell it. Move on with your life. Let go of it. You are a Chronic complainer.
    03-16-2011 09:15 AM
  13. wheelerk's Avatar
    UMM, how was this insider info on mar14??? MS had already officially delayed nodo until second half of march by this post....
    I'd rather wait 2 extra weeks and get a working update across 99% of the phones then to release one that may have problems on certain oem's (thanks samsung for having broken bootloaders)
    Not to mention this update has been ready since december, but the damn carriers are a PIA. That is the part I want to see fixed. Carriers need to get out of the way.



    What are all these issues? Besides marketplace closes, what other problems are y'all having? I've been forced to soft reset my phone TWICE since november, once while watching a video it froze and soft reset itself (very handy) and once I had no volume that led to a soft reset. I haven't even seen the marketplace bug in over 2 months.



    agreed. And I thought all the crying about wp7 was being done on xda...



    I could care less about copy and paste, just give me the speed enhancements and marketplace fix...
    I wouldn't call the marketplace issues severe, I haven't even seen them in 2 months.



    agreed.
    I bought the phone because it had everything I needed. slingbox, netflix, zune, games. My phone is a toy only.



    tech enthusiasts are not enough of the market, if it was then winmo wouldn't have failed. Why are you trying to talk your mom into a phone she doesn't want? Apparently she's smart enough to know that wp7 won't meet her needs. Apparently you didn't realize that for yourself.



    IOS had to issue a bug fix the first 96 hours. The only bug fix I can see MS doing is marketplace and push notifications.
    My phone isn't broken. What you are describing sounds like stock winmo. Constant freezes, lag, stuttering UI. None of this has happened on my hd7. I haven't even soft reset in probably a week and never have had to delete a text message either so the sms app would open right. Matter of fact, I tried to lock it up sending hundreds of sms and I couldn't do it.



    Please do. I'd like to see this. All these bugs that are crashing wp7. And don't mean the occasional program close, I've seen that on all os's. But real bugs like the marketplace bug that are reproduceable across all phones on the platform.
    Nicely put nrfitchett4. Listening to mgarcia and some others complain, I was beginning to believe that I had the only properly functioning WP7. I have no idea about most of the stuff he is saying. I just don't see them on my phone. Maybe mgarcia doesn't really know how this industry works. So maybe that why the only thing really "Broken" is his logic.
    Last edited by wheelerk; 03-16-2011 at 09:48 AM.
    03-16-2011 09:29 AM
  14. gibbyhome's Avatar
    I tend to find that there are some people that just will find anything to complain about,
    from coffie being to hot or cold, to how loud or soft the tv is at night ...
    you just can't win

    "Winning!"
    03-16-2011 09:32 AM
  15. wheelerk's Avatar
    So Wheelerk, I'm sorry if all posts on these forums aren't cheering Microsoft on and you have to come into contact with posts that you might think are negative. At the end of the day, this forum is about an open exchange of ideas. I'm willing to read posts that are contrary to my opinion. I hope you are too.
    Yes the forum should be an exchange of ideas, not a constant complaints about things that you don't really understand and things you can't change. And it shouldn't be repetitive rants about missing features that have already been mentioned and that we know are being addressed. We are not going to change how quickly M$ releases updates and the process that the M$, the hardware companies and the carriers have decided on. So why complain and make idle threats about, not purchasing the phone or going back to your old phone if they don't meet your demands. So folks are acting like the kidnappers in the movie "Ruthless People". Why would M$ take any of that seriously? Frankly, I think they are approaching this very smart. Its like you guys want them to be reckless. I guess then you would complain about that too. In the Marine Corps, we had a saying, "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast". Also, I think once the process is more mature, the frequency of updates will increase. But for now, they are doing the right thing.
    03-16-2011 09:44 AM
  16. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    May I ask what makes you a expert on how MS is doing the right thing right now?
    Yes the forum should be an exchange of ideas, not a constant complaints about things that you don't really understand and things you can't change. And it shouldn't be repetitive rants about missing features that have already been mentioned and that we know are being addressed. We are not going to change how quickly M$ releases updates and the process that the M$, the hardware companies and the carriers have decided on. So why complain and make idle threats about, not purchasing the phone or going back to your old phone if they don't meet your demands. So folks are acting like the kidnappers in the movie "Ruthless People". Why would M$ take any of that seriously? Frankly, I think they are approaching this very smart. Its like you guys want them to be reckless. I guess then you would complain about that too. In the Marine Corps, we had a saying, "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast". Also, I think once the process is more mature, the frequency of updates will increase. But for now, they are doing the right thing.
    Only time will tell if they are doing the right thing. LOL, the Kin had more updates. It was killed off in months.
    03-16-2011 09:47 AM
  17. wheelerk's Avatar
    May I ask what makes you a expert on how MS is doing the right thing right now?

    Only time will tell if they are doing the right thing. LOL, the Kin had more updates. It was killed off in months.
    Then that should prove that more updates doesn't equal success.
    03-16-2011 09:52 AM
  18. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Doesn't mean less works either.
    Then that should prove that more updates doesn't equal success.
    03-16-2011 09:57 AM
  19. spitothec's Avatar
    I guess some of us that are really excited to have a windows phone device that works and doesn't freeze 5 times a day, are just getting frustrated by all the negativity.
    I guess some of us that are not really excited to have a Windows Phone device that doesn't work and does freeze 5 times a day are just getting frustrated by all the positivity.

    Please do. I'd like to see this. All these bugs that are crashing wp7. And don't mean the occasional program close, I've seen that on all os's. But real bugs like the marketplace bug that are reproduceable across all phones on the platform.
    Unless noted otherwise, I have seen all of the following bugs occur on my Focus, my girlfriend's Quantum, and a coworker's HD7.

    1. When I press the unlock/lock/power button, the screen just flashes.
    2. Alarms - unable to wake from music
    3. AT&T apps - usually just launchers for AT&T's website
    4. Calculator - I guess you got me there.
    5. Calendar - Keeps deleting entries, deletes more entries, unable to process multiple calendars, then it deletes more entries.
    6. Camera - Do I even need to start? What a joke.
    7. Hotmail - One of the better parts of the phone, but horrid multiple folder management, unability to mark spam, no option to auto show pictures, and horrible attachment management (along with a long list of other, smaller nuisances) means that I still have to log in to my computer once a day to re-sort all of my email.
    8. Internet Explorer - slow, bugged, crashes, broken. I've heard some people haven't experienced this. I'm not sure if you're blind or a liar, but either way, good for you. IE has been a scrapheap of garbage on every WP7 device I touch.
    9. Maps - I don't know if this is on Samsung or Microsoft, but it can't find me to save it's life.
    10. Marketplace - If this doesn't crash on you daily, yer lucky. I think my record was six times in a row, requiring battery pulls just to get it to reinitialize.
    11. Messaging - The single biggest problem I have with messaging is how slow and laggy the virtual keyboard is. I don't like having the "click click" sounds turned on when I'm typing on a sheet of glass, but this keyboard is so horrendous that I have to. It will go 2-3 seconds and ignore all contact made, skipping over entire words at times.
    12. Music and Videos - DRM'd music (ie: anything I download on my Zunepass) is broken and stutters. Videos, unless running at native resolutions, are broken and stutter. It's 2011 and we're not even talking about if the ability to play embedded youtube videos will ever exist. Compared to a ZuneHD, this phone is a joke. Oh, and there's still no STOP button.
    13. Office - I just have one word - Skydrive. Ugh.
    14. People - Randomly deletes off of my start page. Randomly deletes pictures. No auto update for people feed. Randomly un-links multiple entries. Broken.
    15. Phone - Biggest problem here is that no one seems to be able to make a headset with a microphone that works properly. Even using the Samsung headset that came with the phone, the phone uses the speakerphone mic and just puts the output voice through the headset. Probably Samsung's problem, still broken. Oh, and it's 2011 and they haven't even talked about bringing visual voicemail to wp7 yet. Joke. Not Samsung's fault - about 10% of the incoming calls answered result in no outgoing voice. Nah, it's cool, they don't need to hear me anyway.
    16. Pictures - Eh, looks like that's #2 bug free.. but with the b*ner that Belfiore gets over his pictures hub, this is to be expected. If only everything else worked this smoothly.
    17. WiFi turns off when the screen is off. This should have been patched the day the phone launched, to go 6 months with this causing people's data bills to skyrocket is offensive.
    18. It's almost Q2 2011 and I can't choose my own ringtone.
    19. Xbox crashes about 50% of the time I launch it. If I'm lucky enough to get the Xbox live page open, then I have about a 50% chance of the game I want to play crashing. I'm not good at math, but I think that means that if I want to play a game, I have to essentially try to launch the game FOUR TIMES before I finally get the "Microsoft Studios" screen of life. Oh, and half of the games have acheivement bugs.
    20. Finally, Settings - settings is probably the worst one of the bunch, because there aren't any. the sheer, undeniable, mind-blowing LACK of switches and buttons available to us in the settings is frightening.. The settings page makes iOS feel like an open-sourced software. It's bad. Worst part of WP7.

    Well, I just went through the apps that came on the phone. If anyone else has any apps that you'd like me to tear apart and tell you why they're broken, just let me know. Thanks guys!
    03-16-2011 10:36 AM
  20. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    LOL, you should switch to a different phone. No way can they satisfy you. I thought I was being b1tchy about my Zune and Marketplace problems. Sheesh.
    03-16-2011 10:44 AM
  21. spitothec's Avatar
    Yes, "this OS is too broken for you, move along" is a great response. That'll solve everyone's problems. Ask Palm.
    03-16-2011 10:50 AM
  22. sdchris's Avatar
    There are some things that irk me about the phone, but nothing major like you are claiming, mgarcia. I think you should return your phone and be done with wp7. It seems like you have a really bad phone, live in a terribly serviced area, are completely rough with your phone, or don't know how to operate it. You can pick one that fits, because I honestly don't have half the problems you have.

    My main issues are sometimes the songs get quirky at the transitions and ie loads webpages slow on wifi. But if I were you, Mgarcia, I would take the phone back or get a phone with Android.
    03-16-2011 10:51 AM
  23. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I mean really. You should have waited to buy rev B.
    Yes, "this OS is too broken for you, move along" is a great response. That'll solve everyone's problems. Ask Palm.
    03-16-2011 11:03 AM
  24. wheelerk's Avatar
    Yes, "this OS is too broken for you, move along" is a great response. That'll solve everyone's problems. Ask Palm.
    I looked at your list and I have come to the conclusion that you are a total misery. I'm sure there is a medical term for you. I don't think you will ever be satisfied. Unless you have a damaged phone with corrupted firmware alone with a corrupted ROM, there is no way you can be experiencing all of that. I think you need to be studied. :-) I'm sure they will find something.
    03-16-2011 11:31 AM
  25. wrong's Avatar
    I guess some of us that are not really excited to have a Windows Phone device that doesn't work and does freeze 5 times a day are just getting frustrated by all the positivity.



    Unless noted otherwise, I have seen all of the following bugs occur on my Focus, my girlfriend's Quantum, and a coworker's HD7.

    1. When I press the unlock/lock/power button, the screen just flashes.
    2. Alarms - unable to wake from music
    3. AT&T apps - usually just launchers for AT&T's website
    4. Calculator - I guess you got me there.
    5. Calendar - Keeps deleting entries, deletes more entries, unable to process multiple calendars, then it deletes more entries.
    6. Camera - Do I even need to start? What a joke.
    7. Hotmail - One of the better parts of the phone, but horrid multiple folder management, unability to mark spam, no option to auto show pictures, and horrible attachment management (along with a long list of other, smaller nuisances) means that I still have to log in to my computer once a day to re-sort all of my email.
    8. Internet Explorer - slow, bugged, crashes, broken. I've heard some people haven't experienced this. I'm not sure if you're blind or a liar, but either way, good for you. IE has been a scrapheap of garbage on every WP7 device I touch.
    9. Maps - I don't know if this is on Samsung or Microsoft, but it can't find me to save it's life.
    10. Marketplace - If this doesn't crash on you daily, yer lucky. I think my record was six times in a row, requiring battery pulls just to get it to reinitialize.
    11. Messaging - The single biggest problem I have with messaging is how slow and laggy the virtual keyboard is. I don't like having the "click click" sounds turned on when I'm typing on a sheet of glass, but this keyboard is so horrendous that I have to. It will go 2-3 seconds and ignore all contact made, skipping over entire words at times.
    12. Music and Videos - DRM'd music (ie: anything I download on my Zunepass) is broken and stutters. Videos, unless running at native resolutions, are broken and stutter. It's 2011 and we're not even talking about if the ability to play embedded youtube videos will ever exist. Compared to a ZuneHD, this phone is a joke. Oh, and there's still no STOP button.
    13. Office - I just have one word - Skydrive. Ugh.
    14. People - Randomly deletes off of my start page. Randomly deletes pictures. No auto update for people feed. Randomly un-links multiple entries. Broken.
    15. Phone - Biggest problem here is that no one seems to be able to make a headset with a microphone that works properly. Even using the Samsung headset that came with the phone, the phone uses the speakerphone mic and just puts the output voice through the headset. Probably Samsung's problem, still broken. Oh, and it's 2011 and they haven't even talked about bringing visual voicemail to wp7 yet. Joke. Not Samsung's fault - about 10% of the incoming calls answered result in no outgoing voice. Nah, it's cool, they don't need to hear me anyway.
    16. Pictures - Eh, looks like that's #2 bug free.. but with the b*ner that Belfiore gets over his pictures hub, this is to be expected. If only everything else worked this smoothly.
    17. WiFi turns off when the screen is off. This should have been patched the day the phone launched, to go 6 months with this causing people's data bills to skyrocket is offensive.
    18. It's almost Q2 2011 and I can't choose my own ringtone.
    19. Xbox crashes about 50% of the time I launch it. If I'm lucky enough to get the Xbox live page open, then I have about a 50% chance of the game I want to play crashing. I'm not good at math, but I think that means that if I want to play a game, I have to essentially try to launch the game FOUR TIMES before I finally get the "Microsoft Studios" screen of life. Oh, and half of the games have acheivement bugs.
    20. Finally, Settings - settings is probably the worst one of the bunch, because there aren't any. the sheer, undeniable, mind-blowing LACK of switches and buttons available to us in the settings is frightening.. The settings page makes iOS feel like an open-sourced software. It's bad. Worst part of WP7.

    Well, I just went through the apps that came on the phone. If anyone else has any apps that you'd like me to tear apart and tell you why they're broken, just let me know. Thanks guys!
    Dude, you got a lemon phone. My Focus doesn't have any of those issues.
    03-16-2011 12:03 PM
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