05-09-2011 01:30 AM
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  1. TheAngelOfElysium's Avatar
    Well, after quite a while on webOS, which I absolutely love and will probably go back to, it's time for me to test some different waters, so I'm coming here. What I'd like to know is, what sort of similarities and differences am I looking at, what will I probably have difficulty adjusting to, and precisely how good of an idea is this?
    05-05-2011 01:45 PM
  2. furygoalbrtis39's Avatar
    I'm coming from WebOS too, I actually don't get my Focus until the 12th, but I'd like to see a crash course too.

    -- Sent from my Palm Pre using Forums
    05-05-2011 04:27 PM
  3. enahs555's Avatar
    I'm coming from WebOS too, I actually don't get my Focus until the 12th, but I'd like to see a crash course too.
    Really, the system is so intuitive you do not need much.

    Go ahead and install zune. Zune software, Zune HD players, and the Social | Zune.net
    You use it for getting files and media to and from phone to computer.

    Create a Windows Live account Sign In
    A windows live account is required, and it also gives you a lot of extra features like find phone, lock phone, etc. It also makes it easy to save pics and other content to the cloud. It has free 25gig of storage in the skyDrive. You can link your Windows Live account with Facebook, etc.

    Remember to swipe left and right if it looks like there is more stuff there. And a lot of things have context menus you access by holding down on for a second. So for instance in email hold down on a email gets you essentially a "right click" menu.
    Also, there are regions, so again in email, for instance, if you click all the way to the left on the list of messages, it will bring up a check box selector so you can select multiple messages at once, etc.

    Other then simple things like that, just play and have fun.

    And of course, check out ALL of my apps. Just search "Erlensoft" in the zune software :)
    05-05-2011 04:55 PM
  4. astraith's Avatar
    Well, after quite a while on webOS, which I absolutely love and will probably go back to, it's time for me to test some different waters, so I'm coming here. What I'd like to know is, what sort of similarities and differences am I looking at, what will I probably have difficulty adjusting to, and precisely how good of an idea is this?
    The biggest thing I think you will notice is lack of multitasking and an effecint way to switch between the apps you can multitask with. That's what I notice. I rc the HTC Arrive for Sprint, the phone I bought this week. I'll be posting first impressions soon if you want to read thoughts on the phone (precentral.net has this all ready).

    Enjoy the new phone!
    05-05-2011 06:57 PM
  5. HeyCori's Avatar
    What you need to know:

    Expect a lot of flak for choosing WP7 because there's a lot of fanboys out there and they strike without notice. :D
    05-05-2011 09:21 PM
  6. foosball's Avatar
    Well you've come to the right place. Alot of us former webOS users have ended up here and made the transition quite nicely as you will see by the threads. My .02 is that WP7 is the natural replacement for webOS.

    As far as direct comparison there's just no getting around the fact that webOS has turned multi-tasking into an art so you will miss the cards (until Mango, anyway). The other thing you may miss is the great homebrew community which allowed for every customization you needed for your Pre/Pixi. Notifications, are currently better implemented on webOS but live tiles of WP7 have more potential in the long-run.

    That good news is that WP7 is a user-friendly platform just like webOS so you should feel right at home jumping into things. You'll find that regardless of whether you have a hardware keyboard or virtual keyboard that most people really like the native WP7 virtual kb and coming from a Palm phone that may be a nice surprise.

    While you may miss cards you won't miss the general lag that plagues webOS. WP7 is silky smooth in contrast and the fact that you can move around so quickly makes the platform a joy to use. It also makes webOS look utilitarian by comparison. There's something about the Metro UI which makes the whole experience feel extremely well polished.

    Which brings us to apps, there's 16,000 now which is roughly triple webOS. You don't realize how much webOS is the red-headed stepchild of the mobile world until you get on a platform like this which has app support from most of the major players. It's amazing to see how many sites are supporting WP7 which didn't give Palm the time of day.

    Regarding live tiles, they are really slick and do help get over missing webOS notifications. Do a little research on the current 15 live tile limit that MS imposes and what that means for your phone by combing the forums. Not all live tiles are created equal is the issue.

    Of course you have XBL and the game selection and quality speaks for itself.

    Take your time to enjoy WP7 and evaluate it. It's pretty much what I was looking for Palm to deliver for the last year and was shocked to find that MS has built a solid platform that made moving from webOS alot easier and convinced me it was a good choice.
    Last edited by WPDiddy; 05-05-2011 at 10:27 PM.
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    05-05-2011 09:35 PM
  7. TheAngelOfElysium's Avatar
    Oh you guys are absolutely wonderful! I'll take this all in mind.

    Now all I have to do is wait for someone to buy this Palm Pre 2 so I can get either a Quantum or a Focus!
    05-05-2011 11:34 PM
  8. jimski's Avatar
    Now all I have to do is wait for someone to buy this Palm Pre 2 so I can get either a Quantum or a Focus!

    Quantum or Focus. What happened to the Surround? The speaker is surprisingly good and the 3.8" screen is just about right for me. At the end of the day, the choice is yours. But don't rule anything out till you have had a chance to play with it.


    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
    05-06-2011 12:22 AM
  9. TheAngelOfElysium's Avatar
    Quantum or Focus. What happened to the Surround? The speaker is surprisingly good and the 3.8" screen is just about right for me. At the end of the day, the choice is yours. But don't rule anything out till you have had a chance to play with it.


    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
    Ehh, media's not a huge deal for me. This decision's really about the keyboard, so for me it's either 4" slab or 3,5" slider. Honestly, I'm preferring the Focus at this point. Been through small screens, now I want a bigger one.
    05-06-2011 01:48 AM
  10. Winterfang's Avatar
    I recommend the Focus, is the most popular Windows Phone for a reason. It doesn't have a gimmick it's just a pretty phone with a great screen that takes amazing pictures.

    That being said I use an Optimus 7 and I love it very much, I only wish the screen was as good as the focus but the phone is so pretty I get compliments almost daily, it's a great feeling.
    05-06-2011 08:39 AM
  11. fernandez21's Avatar
    dont forget the dell venue pro which just came out on at&t, its what the pre 2 should have been.
    05-06-2011 10:05 AM
  12. enahs555's Avatar
    Well, if you are not purchasing yet, the HD7S might be out by the time you are ready to purchase. Even bigger and better screen!
    05-06-2011 10:40 AM
  13. Winterfang's Avatar
    The Dell Venue is the refresh right? the one that leaked that will have Nodo installed and firmware fixes?
    05-06-2011 10:48 AM
  14. VernonEL's Avatar
    Oh you guys are absolutely wonderful! I'll take this all in mind.

    Now all I have to do is wait for someone to buy this Palm Pre 2 so I can get either a Quantum or a Focus!
    Welcome to WPCentral.

    At least you're considering the Quantum. It is very underrated. I have found it to be a very sound device. Of course it is the OS that makes it shine, but the hardware is robust and gives one the feeling of quality.

    The slide-out keyboard is by far the best I have used (Touch Pro II being one of them). That being said, the soft keyboard on WP7 is amazing, even on the Quantum's 3.5 in screen!

    Check out other discussions regarding the Quantum in the device specific forum. This thread in particular may give you good insight. http://forums.windowscentral.com/lg-quantum/177354.htm

    Happy hunting!
    05-06-2011 10:54 AM
  15. VernonEL's Avatar
    The Dell Venue is the refresh right? the one that leaked that will have Nodo installed and firmware fixes?
    Yep! I just read it a couple of minutes ago. I think it was on PocketNow.
    05-06-2011 10:56 AM
  16. Winterfang's Avatar
    Man AT&T has the best WP7 selection then. I really wanted the Dell Venue pro but it never came here in PR. I'll keep my eye on the Wrigley dell phone that has a sweet camera and mango.
    05-06-2011 11:21 AM
  17. dtboos's Avatar
    Hope you enjoy the platform switch. I missed many things coming from a background of blackberry>iphone>android, but the way wp7 is designed is so much better than the typical palm related design of all the other players (utilitarian, grid of icons, up/down interface), and I could immediately see where both the mobile and future desktop/tablet model of windows was going to head that I was fine with waiting for certain things to be implemented (most of which are being done in the Mango software update coming later this year).

    Microsoft has been impressing me lately, and I gotta give their design team an A+ on this one. It will only get better as they start adding more features to the platform, but I've never felt like an OS was done so 'right' like I did when I got my Focus.
    05-06-2011 01:24 PM
  18. eric12341's Avatar
    yea webPOS can kick rocks with no shoes on!
    05-06-2011 03:32 PM
  19. VernonEL's Avatar
    yea webPOS can kick rocks with no shoes on!
    That's the most descriptive and entertaining insult I have heard in some time!
    05-06-2011 03:40 PM
  20. eric12341's Avatar
    That's the most descriptive and entertaining insult I have heard in some time!
    or how about all the webPOS fanboys sit together and eat frozen peanuts while watching their marketshare fall to the likes of MS
    05-06-2011 05:45 PM
  21. Jay Bennett's Avatar
    Regarding live tiles, they are really slick and do help get over missing webOS notifications. Do a little research on the current 15 live tile limit that MS imposes and what that means for your phone by combing the forums. Not all live tiles are created equal is the issue.
    Just in case anyone's curious by the way, that live tile limit only applies to tiles that use the "Push" live tile method (the one that updates a count number and the tile title text). If apps use the "Pull" method where they grab a new tile image from a web address according to a schedule defined by the developer (most frequent possible is hourly) then they don't count towards the 15 tile limit.

    For an example of the pull tile if you're in the UK, check out Lawrence Gripper's 'BBC News Mobile', works very well and is free (and no I'm not affiliated with it at all)
    05-06-2011 05:53 PM
  22. jimski's Avatar
    Two other good "pull" live tile apps: Weather Channel and Urban Dictionary.

    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
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    05-07-2011 01:30 AM
  23. TheAngelOfElysium's Avatar
    Oh, man, this entire thread.

    I love you guys so much.

    By the way, I found a guy on Craigslist who's willing to trade his Focus for my Pre2, for sure if I can find the headphones that came with it, but probably anyways if not.
    05-07-2011 02:17 AM
  24. Winterfang's Avatar
    That sounds too good to be true, I'll be careful.
    05-07-2011 11:24 AM
  25. TheAngelOfElysium's Avatar
    That sounds too good to be true, I'll be careful.
    I've already met the guy and he's super cool, he just wants to sell it. I also go to play with his Focus for a bit and it's in great condition. He also just called me and told me he'll be coming down from Selma today so I should have it soon.
    05-07-2011 03:24 PM
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