New Mango features!

[1jaxstate1]

True. I'm just waiting for milti-tasking. I don't mind playing the waiting game. The phone is awesome right now as is.

You mean more of the "Hoped For" right. Up until now it was all hoped for, but nothing was concrete yet, and really still isn't until it is made official by Microsoft.

I am especially happy about the group messaging and messenger integration.

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[1jaxstate1]

Anyone know why there's a limit to start?

Are you referring to the limit on the number of apps that can run live tiles. I think the current limit is 15 but with Mango it is supposed to go up to 30. Not sure where I heard this from though. On another note if you watch the videos from MIX '11 there is alot of talk about upcoming live tile features at one point in the video.

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[jdunn]

Anyone know why there's a limit to start?


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This article pretty much sums it up in a neat package.

Details on the Push Notification app limits - Jaime Rodriguez - Site Home - MSDN Blogs

 

[cdook]

Anyone know why there's a limit to start?


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I believe it's probably to maintain battery life and performance.

 

[ctt1wbw]

I haven't heard of this yet, but is there going to be Twitter integration in Mango too, like Facebook is right now?

 

[Winterfang]

On the People's Hub? I think that was confirmed long ago. It can get pretty messy though.

 

[jimski]

I still find it somewhat troubling that there has been no info on the Live Tiles issue. I'm hoping that with the deep linking tiles we will have a larger limit as well as the constipation issue somehow cures itself.

Getting closer to understanding this issue although still no simple solution. I have shared my findings with 6 live tile app developers, 5 that are contributing to the constipation issue and 1 that is not. Maybe we can come up with a consensus as to what is going on. If Microsoft won't do anything, maybe the developers can.


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[Luisraul924]

So jimski what exactly is it that's going on?

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[jdunn]

So jimski what exactly is it that's going on?

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While I am not Jimski, I can tell you what is going on.

Some developers are writing sloppy code. There is a limit of 15 live tiles on the start screen right now for Windows Phone 7. In the Mango release it will be set at 30. When a live tile is added to the start screen it is added to this number up until 15 are reached, Microsoft stock apps do not count towards this total. When a live tile is deleted from the home screen it is supposed to be deleted from this list. Some apps are not releasing themselves from this list and therefore have to be deleted to be taken off of the list. It is kinda technical, but in the end it is not Microsoft's fault but the developers who are to blame.

Did that help?

 

[jdunn]

Added the info from today. MY GOD I cannot wait for this update. Its gonna be HUGE!!!!

 

[Luisraul924]

Did that help?

Unfortunately, No it didn't, everything you just explained I already knew. What I was asking jimski was; what were the devs doing exactly that helped the situation but at this point the consensus seems to be that it is entirely the devs fault for writing crap code for live tiles so I guess its them that need to wake up?

Edit: iirc jimski also said that some apps are so bad that only a factory reset could fix it (with a locked device) is there truth to this?

 

[Luisraul924]

Added the info from today. MY GOD I cannot wait for this update. Its gonna be HUGE!!!!

And it now becomes fully transparent as to why 1 GHz was mandated in the first place lol.

 

[Duvi]

And it now becomes fully transparent as to why 1 GHz was mandated in the first place lol.

for real! microsoft isn't playing games this time around (pun not intended).

threaded emails is tight!

 

[jdunn]

Unfortunately, No it didn't, everything you just explained I already knew. What I was asking jimski was; what were the devs doing exactly that helped the situation but at this point the consensus seems to be that it is entirely the devs fault for writing crap code for live tiles so I guess its them that need to wake up?

Edit: iirc jimski also said that some apps are so bad that only a factory reset could fix it (with a locked device) is there truth to this?

I have not heard of this as of yet, and I would be suprised if apps with these kind of effects were getting past Microsofts revue process. Was he talking about apps from the marketplace or ones that were sideloaded on an unlocked device?

 

[1jaxstate1]

I wish they would roll out some of these features. The phone was buggy after release with limited features. I wonder why they think they can add in a ****ton of "new" features and get it right. I see a lot of trouble ahead, after the Mango release.

 

[eric12341]

I wish they would roll out some of these features. The phone was buggy after release with limited features. I wonder why they think they can add in a ****ton of "new" features and get it right. I see a lot of trouble ahead, after the Mango release.

you have got to be the mist pessimistic and skeptical person on here. just relax vale?

 

[1jaxstate1]

Just being real. Phone was buggy as **** when released. Maybe you're just overly supportive. *shrugs*

you have got to be the mist pessimistic and skeptical person on here. just relax vale?

Initial realease, buggy. Pre-NoDo update release, buggy. NoDo update, buggy. History teaches us lessons. Only if you're willing to learn though.

 

[jdunn]

Just being real. Phone was buggy as **** when released. Maybe you're just overly supportive. *shrugs*

Initial realease, buggy. Pre-NoDo update release, buggy. NoDo update, buggy. History teaches us lessons. Only if you're willing to learn though.

One thing is for sure, if Microsoft announces all these features and then fails to deliver there will be huge backlash. I think that is why we don't have a firm release date yet. MS is making sure that the Mango release is completely finished and bug free as much as possible before it is released. At least I hope so.

 

[IamNabil]

Just being real. Phone was buggy as **** when released. Maybe you're just overly supportive. *shrugs*

Initial realease, buggy. Pre-NoDo update release, buggy. NoDo update, buggy. History teaches us lessons. Only if you're willing to learn though.

I don't remember most of these bugs. The OS wasn't feature complete, but it wasn't "buggy."

 

[Rico]

I don't remember most of these bugs. The OS wasn't feature complete, but it wasn't "buggy."

Yeah, we had this discussion with another member here. I've actually experienced very few bugs, particularly after Nodo.