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  1. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    Hey wpcentral! Really excited about Windows Phone, especially mango. I realize that mango won't be available until the fall, but I'm ready to switch now. I'm on att, and I'm looking at either the focus or the HD7S. My question is, if I take my sim from my iphone 4, put it in adapter, then put it into the hd7s, will it work? Also, will I be able to keep my unlimited data plan, or will I have to give it up?
    05-29-2011 02:18 AM
  2. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Yes it should work. I traded my ip4 for a Focus and it worked. I didn't have the unlimited data plan, so I'm not sure how that would work. Good luck!

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    05-29-2011 02:39 AM
  3. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Hey wpcentral! Really excited about Windows Phone, especially mango. I realize that mango won't be available until the fall, but I'm ready to switch now. I'm on att, and I'm looking at either the focus or the HD7S. My question is, if I take my sim from my iphone 4, put it in adapter, then put it into the hd7s, will it work? Also, will I be able to keep my unlimited data plan, or will I have to give it up?
    Welcome to wpcentral! Now the thing is... It depends on whether you're buying the device full retail or signing a contract for it... If you're signing a contract, you can't beat free for the focus (iirc it is now free). If you're buying retail you may as well go the extra 100 bucks for the HD7S as the screen is almost up to par with the focus s-amoled but the screen real-estate is nice (I have an HD7) really it is up to you the the best way to check is to go to a store and test both devices out for yourself (HD7S is almost out) the OS is consistent so both will feel the same in terms of OS performance, where it'll differ is how the screen feels while navigating the oh so beautiful UI so for example; typing on the keyboard on the focus might feel different from the HD7S and other small details like that but then again it is the small things we should appreciate. What I can tell you though is you will be impressed by the OS I haven't met a person that wasn't. In the end even if you end up returning the device because you feel it's not for you, it'll still leave an impression of knowing that it can only get better (especially with mango around the corner :D)
    05-29-2011 02:43 AM
  4. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Yes it should work. I traded my ip4 for a Focus and it worked. I didn't have the unlimited data plan, so I'm not sure how that would work. Good luck!

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    Good man! Good man! I didn't see your "previous devices" list but I see you've had both of the "good" generations of the iPhone, I'm wondering... How is WP7 doing for you?
    05-29-2011 02:47 AM
  5. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    I'd be paying retail for which ever windows phone i get. I dont' have a upgrade for awhile. So are you saying that the hd7s will retail for $500??
    05-29-2011 02:55 AM
  6. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Seeing that I'm not a heavy app user. I'm liking my Focus better. Even with the present shortcomings, I prefer Wp7 OS over iOS. The live tiles are awesome and the unique GUI is a breath of fresh air. Zune Pass is the killer feature for me, I absolutely love it. I have a upgrade option coming soon, and it will be a WP7 phone of some sort!

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    05-29-2011 03:00 AM
  7. Luisraul924's Avatar
    I'd be paying retail for which ever windows phone i get. I dont' have a upgrade for awhile. So are you saying that the hd7s will retail for $500??
    500-ish yeah... Okay now that I know you're paying retail... Let me ask you this; how "giddy" are you about Windows Phone? On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being "just curious wanna experience it first hand" to ten being "I've done my homework and already love it!"
    05-29-2011 03:00 AM
  8. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Seeing that I'm not a heavy app user. I'm liking my Focus better. Even with the present shortcomings, I prefer Wp7 OS over iOS. The live tiles are awesome and the unique GUI is a breath of fresh air. Zune Pass is the killer feature for me, I absolutely love it. I have a upgrade option coming soon, and it will be a WP7 phone of some sort!

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    Ah that's what's up! I'll be getting a second gen device too. I'm wanting a Nokia and I might be making the jump to AT&T too.
    05-29-2011 03:03 AM
  9. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Samsung has impressed me with their beautiful screens! I'm hoping they actually release a 4.3" phone.

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    05-29-2011 03:07 AM
  10. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Samsung has impressed me with their beautiful screens! I'm hoping they actually release a 4.3" phone.

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    If its the amoled screens you like you should still look at Nokia they love the amoleds. Oooh and if I'm not mistaken... You were one of the guys clamoring for more powerful hardware right? Nokia really really wants to use dual-cores with WP7 :D

    Edit: oh and I do believe Samsung has a 4.3 planned for WP7 (rumor of course but which one of those hasn't panned out yet? Lol)
    05-29-2011 03:12 AM
  11. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Yeah, I like Nokia phones. Can't wait to see their first batch of phones. I actually posted a like about Samsung releasing a 4.7" Monster! I'd be all over that. Lol.

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    05-29-2011 03:19 AM
  12. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    500-ish yeah... Okay now that I know you're paying retail... Let me ask you this; how "giddy" are you about Windows Phone? On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being "just curious wanna experience it first hand" to ten being "I've done my homework and already love it!"
    I'd say a 9. I realize that it won't have all of the features iOS does, but honestly I don't care. I'm really bored with iOS and I want something new. I was really tempted by android, but I hate their way of business. "This may not work with this", "you may not be able to upgrade to that". It's dumb. I mean they just now got netflix, and even that isn't going well because it's only on select phones. As far as Windows Phone goes, I became interested when I decided to watch the Mango conference because I had to write an article about it. As soon as I saw how tight they plan to integrate the phone into the apps, and vice versa, I was sold. Android kind of does app integration, but not in the way that MS plans to.

    The only real good thing about iOS is the apps. Other then that, I don't really find that much keeping me on the iPhone. It seems like Apple hasn't done much innovation since they changed the smartphone market with the original iphone. Also, I don't like how apple makes me wait for features that other platforms already have. My biggest iOS annoyance is the notification system, or the lack of one. For a company that likes to mock Microsoft, it's a little confusing as to why they use dialog boxes to alert me I have a notification. It reminds me a lot of the yellow triangle with the exclamation through it from the windows 95 dialog boxes.

    So here I am, looking to buy my first windows phone. I was really hoping it wouldn't cost me more then $400, because even that is a lot for a phone. Maybe I will just get a focus from ebay, and use my upgrade on a windows phone 7 that ships with mango. My upgrade is in october, so that kind of lines up nicely...
    05-29-2011 03:35 AM
  13. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Yeah, I like Nokia phones. Can't wait to see their first batch of phones. I actually posted a like about Samsung releasing a 4.7" Monster! I'd be all over that. Lol.

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    Yeah I remember now... Really though? That's already blurring the line between big phone and small tablet... I know I'm gonna jump in the tablet market but with Windows 8. With Windows Phone I think 4.3 is too perfect. Plus, think about how crappy the pixel density will be with a 4.7" 480x800 res screen...

    I'd say a 9. I realize that it won't have all of the features iOS does, but honestly I don't care. I'm really bored with iOS and I want something new. I was really tempted by android, but I hate their way of business. "This may not work with this", "you may not be able to upgrade to that". It's dumb. I mean they just now got netflix, and even that isn't going well because it's only on select phones. As far as Windows Phone goes, I became interested when I decided to watch the Mango conference because I had to write an article about it. As soon as I saw how tight they plan to integrate the phone into the apps, and vice versa, I was sold. Android kind of does app integration, but not in the way that MS plans to.

    The only real good thing about iOS is the apps. Other then that, I don't really find that much keeping me on the iPhone. It seems like Apple hasn't done much innovation since they changed the smartphone market with the original iphone. Also, I don't like how apple makes me wait for features that other platforms already have. My biggest iOS annoyance is the notification system, or the lack of one. For a company that likes to mock Microsoft, it's a little confusing as to why they use dialog boxes to alert me I have a notification. It reminds me a lot of the yellow triangle with the exclamation through it from the windows 95 dialog boxes.

    So here I am, looking to buy my first windows phone. I was really hoping it wouldn't cost me more then $400, because even that is a lot for a phone. Maybe I will just get a focus from ebay, and use my upgrade on a windows phone 7 that ships with mango. My upgrade is in october, so that kind of lines up nicely...
    Oooooooh, that changes everything! With an October renewal date yeah buy yourself a Craigslist/ebay focus then with your upgrade I'd highly recommend Nokia, their hardware is of top notch quality and their Carl Zeiss optic equipped cameras will really make other OEMs seem (almost) obsolete.
    05-29-2011 03:53 AM
  14. hammerhand's Avatar
    Also, will I be able to keep my unlimited data plan, or will I have to give it up?
    You can keep your unlimited plan. I've had mine through four or five phones and seven years now. Started off with an old Motorola V400, then to a V551, a replacement V551, Samsung BlackJack, replacement BlackJack, BlackBerry Bold 9700, and now my lovely Samsung Focus haha. When extending my contract and going to and from the BlackBerry the sales rep at AT&T had to add and remove the BIS service from my account. I'm not sure how it's set up for the iPhone, but yeah, it could be as easy as swapping SIMs. It never hurts to stop in and talk with a rep next time your near an AT&T store.
    05-29-2011 04:10 AM
  15. hammerhand's Avatar
    their Carl Zeiss optic equipped cameras
    Holy crap, I didn't realize Nokia was going that all-out.
    05-29-2011 04:12 AM
  16. Winterfang's Avatar
    Just wait TC. 4G phones will be coming.
    05-29-2011 10:23 AM
  17. dtboos's Avatar
    Grab a focus off ebay/craigslist for $200 or so and renew contract with subsidized phone in Fall since there will be a slew of new phones coming out with Mango when your contract ends. Thats what I did, and will either upgrade to one when Mango comes out, or wait till I see what Nokia is doing if none of them are exactly what I want.
    05-29-2011 11:46 AM
  18. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    Hmm, ya I guess I'll just wait. Waiting sucks so bad though lol. I guess I'll do that, I'll grab a cheap focus and wait until october. So is the focus a pretty good phone? Also, how sure are you guys that nokia will have stuff this year? All these sites are saying different things. If @Luisraul924 is right, I will jump on that. I would love to have a camera that good in my phone.
    05-29-2011 02:36 PM
  19. dtboos's Avatar
    Hmm, ya I guess I'll just wait. Waiting sucks so bad though lol. I guess I'll do that, I'll grab a cheap focus and wait until october. So is the focus a pretty good phone? Also, how sure are you guys that nokia will have stuff this year? All these sites are saying different things. If @Luisraul924 is right, I will jump on that. I would love to have a camera that good in my phone.
    Nokia will likely release 'something' by the holidays, but most of their phones will come in 2012 starting with a first wave in the first quarter. But the focus (or any current phone) will take good care of you even if you wait until early 2012 to buy on contract.

    The Focus is a great phone. Great performance, and great screen. Grab a thin case for it like this one: Amazon.com: Smoke Argyle Candy Skin Case for Samsung Focus: Cell Phones & Accessories since the casing on the Focus is a little thin/light. Makes it feel much better/stronger. The focus has a very high satisfaction rating and I personally think its the best phone on AT&T (and the only solid bar/non sliding phone until the HD7S coming in June). The screen alone makes it worth it imo.

    Samnsung also has much better camera optics than HTC in general, and the Focus is no exception.

    When you get one off ebay/craigslist make the seller open up the case and look under the battery. If it says "rev 1.4" don't buy it. For some reason, this batch has had update issues and still doesn't have the NoDo update.
    05-29-2011 02:47 PM
  20. hammerhand's Avatar
    Doesn't it have something to do with better flash memory used in the revised 1.4? Or did I read an article wrong?
    05-29-2011 03:05 PM
  21. Luisraul924's Avatar
    Holy crap, I didn't realize Nokia was going that all-out.
    Yeah they are! Well they already have Carl Zeiss in a couple of their Symbian devices and they already said they want to innovate with hardware so you can bet that Nokia will be the first manufacturer with a kickass camera and a dual-core processor.
    Just wait TC. 4G phones will be coming.
    I'm really hoping Nokia either releases pentaband 4G devices or at least makes a T-Mobile 4G compatible device.
    Hmm, ya I guess I'll just wait. Waiting sucks so bad though lol. I guess I'll do that, I'll grab a cheap focus and wait until october. So is the focus a pretty good phone? Also, how sure are you guys that nokia will have stuff this year? All these sites are saying different things. If @Luisraul924 is right, I will jump on that. I would love to have a camera that good in my phone.
    Yeah and even if you end up having to wait until Q1 2012 for good Nokia hardware (I doubt first launch would be groundbreaking) the focus would still hold you through with the mango update in October. I honestly think it's gonna be like getting an entirely new device.
    When you get one off ebay/craigslist make the seller open up the case and look under the battery. If it says "rev 1.4" don't buy it. For some reason, this batch has had update issues and still doesn't have the NoDo update.
    This one is very crucial you don't wanna stay stuck with a device that gets updates last because of stupid memory issues boy did Samsung **** up on that one.
    05-29-2011 03:18 PM
  22. dtboos's Avatar
    Doesn't it have something to do with better flash memory used in the revised 1.4? Or did I read an article wrong?
    Yes, and Samsung is being very slow updating the firmware for NoDo for these phones.
    05-29-2011 03:22 PM
  23. hammerhand's Avatar
    Yes, and Samsung is being very slow updating the firmware for NoDo for these phones.
    Lame. I guess they think users don't like updates? I forgot how long it took them and at&t to release WinMo 6 for my old BlackJack.
    05-29-2011 03:26 PM
  24. dtboos's Avatar
    Yah Samsung makes great components, hardware, and phones, but they really need to take their updating and other software / consumer areas more seriously (like the OEM applications, of which they have the worst ones). They are notorious for horrible updating.

    I am sure MS had a few words with them in recent months since Samsung single handedly botched the first major update, and they will want future updates to go more on the 'as planned' route.
    05-29-2011 03:28 PM
  25. anon(27512)'s Avatar
    So wait does the focus not have the most recent os update?
    05-29-2011 03:30 PM
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