06-25-2011 09:26 PM
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  1. red grenadine's Avatar
    Another vote for the Focus. Just a fantastic phone all around

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    06-21-2011 08:39 PM
  2. 3migo's Avatar
    I'm hoping for a lot of new handsets to debut when Mango is released, so I'm going to wait until mango comes out, as it comes out in the same time frame as Blackberry's new handsets, so that'll help me make the decision.

    So far I'm really liking Windows phone 7, it presents everything i use my smart phone for very quickly, without having to go in and out of apps to get daily information.
    06-21-2011 09:53 PM
  3. dtboos's Avatar
    I'm hoping for a lot of new handsets to debut when Mango is released, so I'm going to wait until mango comes out, as it comes out in the same time frame as Blackberry's new handsets, so that'll help me make the decision.

    So far I'm really liking Windows phone 7, it presents everything i use my smart phone for very quickly, without having to go in and out of apps to get daily information.
    I think quite a few will. Microsoft has pretty good ties with many of the OEM's, and know that Mango is more of a 'hard' release for them. This is when their platform had time to gain some solid fanbase, gain a solid marketplace full of apps, and the update brings all the maturity & features as well as developer API's needed for large scale growth.

    This release is when OEM's will start to use their current generation hardware to show off what they can do and distinguish themselves from the upcoming Nokia phones, and help MS push out their newly matured system.
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    06-21-2011 10:00 PM
  4. 3migo's Avatar
    Microsoft keeps getting hammered because they released what a lot of reviewers are calling an "unfinished product." People always seem to view the past with rose colored glasses, the iphone, which is now hailed by so many, couldn't send or receive pictures/videos via sms for its first 3 years, couldn't record video for its first 2 generations, and the app store didn't exist for a long time either.

    Each platform takes a little while to get up and running, and I believe that mango is going to do for windows phone 7 what the Iphone 3gs did for iOS.
    06-21-2011 10:15 PM
  5. Winterfang's Avatar
    If you think you can wait, I'll say wait for mango. Not only are you gonna get new sexy devices but old ones are going to be ridiculously cheap ;). I couldn't wait though.
    06-21-2011 10:36 PM
  6. 3migo's Avatar
    If you think you can wait, I'll say wait for mango. Not only are you gonna get new sexy devices but old ones are going to be ridiculously cheap ;). I couldn't wait though.
    Has MS given any real release for Mango? I keep reading "Fall," but to some companies that means December.
    06-21-2011 10:41 PM
  7. Duvi's Avatar
    Has MS given any real release for Mango? I keep reading "Fall," but to some companies that means December.
    Nope. None. And I really don't want them to. Then people get disappointed if they says October and it comes out in November (even if it was by 10 days... smh).
    06-21-2011 10:53 PM
  8. Duvi's Avatar
    I'm on ATT and have used the bold 9700, torch 9800 and samsung focus. I LOVE the focus. I've had so many hardware problems with the torch. The bold 9700 was my favorite phone until the focus but it's relatively old now. Depends what you are looking for. I like how lightweight the focus is. and the screen of course.
    i've had no issues with my torch... except for juice being dropped on mine by a waitress last year. i got it replaced through warranty as the sticky was still white :)
    06-21-2011 10:54 PM
  9. Winterfang's Avatar
    Yeah the months before the NODO update was terrible. I didn't had a Windows Phone nor was I part of this board but I was searching sites and forums to see the opinions of people and damn, people had all sorts of negative emotions, sadness, anger etc...
    06-21-2011 10:55 PM
  10. 3migo's Avatar
    Nope. None. And I really don't want them to. Then people get disappointed if they says October and it comes out in November (even if it was by 10 days... smh).
    I'm really hoping for a September release of WP7, not only would it be able to shine in a prime phone buying season (back to school), but it would debut alongside the new Blackberry Line, and the Iphone 5 (Supposedly), giving WP7 a real fighting chance.

    I've been reading around these boards about how carriers aren't marketing WP7 very well, which I found to be the opposite during my recent visit to the AT&T store. Windows phone 7 had a bigger display than the Iphone 4 did. There was a large counter in the middle of the store, with a pretty display featuring all the windows phones, and to top it off the display was right as you walked in the door, and really caught your eye, while the Iphone display is in the corner. Invariably though, the sales staff at the store tends to redirect people to their most expensive products (Iphone).
    06-21-2011 11:21 PM
  11. ikkf's Avatar
    Dagolara, I love your Twin Peaks avatar. One of the best shows ever and canceled way too soon.
    06-22-2011 02:32 PM
  12. rpm5101's Avatar
    as a side note, I went to check out the hd7s at the at&t store. Hardware/build quality is good, but what is with the screen? When you scroll up and down the tiles break up and look awful. Not even close to the focus in terms of screen quality...
    I just mentioned this in another thread. The HD7S I played with at the AT&T store did the same thing, the tearing was horrible as I scrolled through the menus.

    It's probably all the demo software they have on those phones, not to mention all the people messing around with it.
    06-22-2011 03:03 PM
  13. 3migo's Avatar
    I just mentioned this in another thread. The HD7S I played with at the AT&T store did the same thing, the tearing was horrible as I scrolled through the menus.

    It's probably all the demo software they have on those phones, not to mention all the people messing around with it.
    The one I played with didn't seem to have that issue, but the main problem demo phones face is that they usually aren't updated to the latest software, and there are tons of people a day that go and abuse them, trying to mess them up.
    06-22-2011 03:04 PM
  14. ethylove's Avatar
    i've had no issues with my torch... except for juice being dropped on mine by a waitress last year. i got it replaced through warranty as the sticky was still white :)
    i would say 'if we could all be so lucky' but juice from a waitress?? guess unluckiness comes in all forms. warranty has never had a problem replacing my torches but I'm growing tired of driving over to warranty after doing a million battery pulls and OS reloads..... =X
    06-22-2011 06:04 PM
  15. 3migo's Avatar
    i would say 'if we could all be so lucky' but juice from a waitress?? guess unluckiness comes in all forms. warranty has never had a problem replacing my torches but I'm growing tired of driving over to warranty after doing a million battery pulls and OS reloads..... =X
    The main problem the Torch has is that the processor was not near fast enough. With the Torch 2, coming in September, RIM should fix that.
    06-22-2011 08:40 PM
  16. Dagolara's Avatar
    Dagolara, I love your Twin Peaks avatar. One of the best shows ever and canceled way too soon.
    Heh thanks, one of may favs obviously.
    06-23-2011 12:54 AM
  17. Rico's Avatar
    The one I played with didn't seem to have that issue, but the main problem demo phones face is that they usually aren't updated to the latest software, and there are tons of people a day that go and abuse them, trying to mess them up.
    Coming from the Focus, the HD7S's screen ghosting killed the experience for me. It's really bad. I've seen this on two demo units at different stores, both I power cycled before using. It also appears much dimmer than the Focus; at maximum brightness it was about as bright as the middle setting on the Focus. Dan did a comparison between the two (and the original HD7 on T-Mobile) if you're curious:

    Screen Technology Showdown: HD7s vs HD7 vs Focus | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

    I loved the solid feel it had compared to the Focus, and the larger screen felt... right for me. I didn't care for the impossibly hard shutter button. I thought the first unit was broken until I tried the second. Huge negative for me.

    Honestly, I've only dabbled with the Surround (the slide out speakers are pretty unnecessary and aren't even that good). Same with the Quantum; it's got a smallish, visually unimpressive screen and kinda weird styling, but a nice landscape keyboard and a very solid build. Having physical buttons on the front makes it easier to press them without looking and harder to press accidentally while gaming or doing other tasks -- a definite plus. And it supposedly gets the best battery life of all WP7 handsets, a category the Focus could certainly better in.

    Still, the only clear choice for most people is the Focus. It's got that impressive though battery-sucking screen, a great camera, and it's sized about right, especially those coming from an iPhone.
    06-25-2011 05:42 PM
  18. justop26's Avatar
    I don't know if I've got a special Focus or what, but coming from Nokia's N86 and a Nokia N8, having my phone last all day and then some is much more than I can say from those two.

    My Focus has a really good battery life, in my opinion. Could it be the dark theme I'm using? Black wastes no energy...
    06-25-2011 08:12 PM
  19. Rico's Avatar
    I don't know if I've got a special Focus or what, but coming from Nokia's N86 and a Nokia N8, having my phone last all day and then some is much more than I can say from those two.



    My Focus has a really good battery life, in my opinion. Could it be the dark theme I'm using? Black wastes no energy...
    For the record, the only phone I constantly got a full day of use from was my Nokia E72. I'm a heavy user. I'm also not on WiFi often, and frequently in EDGE areas.


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    06-25-2011 09:26 PM
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