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08-03-2011 07:46 PM
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  1. KingCrimson's Avatar
    Sure it's gonna be the king of that with all the social network integration in the People hub. The media hub will be excellent too. But what makes the iOS so special are all the specialty apps that don't fit it any potential "hubs". Things like music tuners and digital compasses. If WP7 doesn't have that full spectrum of apps, it will be relegated to teeny boppers.
    07-31-2011 01:07 AM
  2. jogabonitos's Avatar
    I think that now everything is going to be integrated with social netwos, specially FB, T, and propabbly G+. I also think that it comes to be very childish and should work only somewhere in the background.
    07-31-2011 02:59 AM
  3. KingCrimson's Avatar
    First and foremost, a WP7 handset should be a good PHONE. It needs gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, proximity sensors. These are all fundamental to a great smartphone! Not just Twittering all day long.
    Last edited by KingCrimson; 07-31-2011 at 03:19 AM.
    07-31-2011 03:13 AM
  4. ryude's Avatar
    Wow, and all this time I thought phones were designed to communicate with others...
    07-31-2011 06:42 AM
  5. Dave Blake's Avatar
    If you don't want FB and T don't add the accounts. Windows Phone has the most secure OS and with Office and Skydrive added to the mix it gives businesses the most options. When it comes to a smart phone platform isn't that what we want choice?

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    07-31-2011 07:12 AM
  6. jesdt's Avatar
    Afaik, Apple doesn't build those music tuners and digital compasses themselves - 3rd party developers do. What hinders them to build the same app for WP7? Nothing. So WP7 certainly won't be lacking on that.

    If you are no fan of social networks baked right into the OS, maybe you want to try out the media hub, marketplace hub or office hub?

    Microsoft isn't focusing too much on something as long as it's not lacking something else.
    07-31-2011 08:08 AM
  7. UpTownDC's Avatar
    @Big D5 Agree!! Folks always ask for this feature and that feature....when they get it they complain about it. If they don't want FB,twitter or WLM then dont add it. For me personally if it didnt have an app that I wanted...I think that I would survive...remember folks it's only a phone.
    07-31-2011 08:10 AM
  8. jalb's Avatar
    I hope they make it even MORE networky. Intergrate G+, MySpace and Tumblr. I love my social networks.
    07-31-2011 09:06 AM
  9. wolf1891's Avatar
    I hope they make it even MORE networky. Intergrate G+, MySpace and Tumblr. I love my social networks.
    MySpace? wow... is that one even still around anymore? =P
    07-31-2011 10:10 AM
  10. BORIStheBLADE's Avatar
    Everything is social network oriented now.
    I tried the social hub with twitter and FB, but the lack of features made me delete the accounts and use third party apps. Some people its perfect and some its not.

    To me it looks like companies try to bring people in with the social network carrots. I wish they would worry about other stuff too.
    07-31-2011 10:34 AM
  11. jalb's Avatar
    Everything is social network oriented now.
    I tried the social hub with twitter and FB, but the lack of features made me delete the accounts and use third party apps. Some people its perfect and some its not.

    To me it looks like companies try to bring people in with the social network carrots. I wish they would worry about other stuff too.
    There's a big debate on G+ right now about Google deleting business accounts. I hope they never institute it. I don't want marketing in my stream.
    07-31-2011 10:43 AM
  12. 3migo's Avatar
    First and foremost, a WP7 handset should be a good PHONE. It needs gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, proximity sensors. These are all fundamental to a great smartphone! Not just Twittering all day long.
    It doesn't NEED any of that. All of those features are just gimmicks used to make you buy a different smartphone.
    07-31-2011 10:56 AM
  13. Rico's Avatar
    I hope they make it even MORE networky. Intergrate G+, MySpace and Tumblr. I love my social networks.
    Agreed, although I'd probably wait an OS upgrade cycle or two on those networks just to see where they're headed before bothering to code them in. Social networks are one of those things that pretty much everyone uses, so it makes sense to have them on the phone. And I'm kinda surprised to see Tumblr mentioned. I happen to like it, but I hardly ever see it mentioned anywhere.
    07-31-2011 12:18 PM
  14. KingCrimson's Avatar
    The problem with the integration is that you can't access all the features of Facebook from the aggregate view. You can't like/unlike a post/comment and many other things I'm sure. This integration is not as deep as MSFT advertises.
    07-31-2011 01:08 PM
  15. ajstockdale's Avatar
    The problem with the integration is that you can't access all the features of Facebook from the aggregate view. You can't like/unlike a post/comment and many other things I'm sure. This integration is not as deep as MSFT advertises.
    Yes, you can (like/unlike posts etc).

    Furthermore, all Windows Phones have digital compasses, accelerometers and so on. Mango devices will have gyroscopes (essentially a more accurate accelerometer). Mango exposes APIs that enable access to digital compasses. Many of these apps are already there, and Mango enables further acccess to the hardware.

    WP7 was a damn good release, and Mango builds upon that with platform parity with it's competitors, in addition to the deep social integration. It really is having your cake and eating it. It does all this great stuff, and then it also has this integration. You seem to think it's one, or the other. WP7 is both.
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    07-31-2011 01:56 PM
  16. KingCrimson's Avatar
    Yes, you can (like/unlike posts etc).

    Furthermore, all Windows Phones have digital compasses, accelerometers and so on. Mango devices will have gyroscopes (essentially a more accurate accelerometer). Mango exposes APIs that enable access to digital compasses. Many of these apps are already there, and Mango enables further acccess to the hardware.

    WP7 was a damn good release, and Mango builds upon that with platform parity with it's competitors, in addition to the deep social integration. It really is having your cake and eating it. It does all this great stuff, and then it also has this integration. You seem to think it's one, or the other. WP7 is both.
    At this point Mango has to be released so we can see all 500 features. I'd figure many of them have to do with the sensors.
    07-31-2011 02:08 PM
  17. BORIStheBLADE's Avatar
    Yes, you can (like/unlike posts etc).

    Furthermore, all Windows Phones have digital compasses, accelerometers and so on. Mango devices will have gyroscopes (essentially a more accurate accelerometer). Mango exposes APIs that enable access to digital compasses. Many of these apps are already there, and Mango enables further acccess to the hardware.

    WP7 was a damn good release, and Mango builds upon that with platform parity with it's competitors, in addition to the deep social integration. It really is having your cake and eating it. It does all this great stuff, and then it also has this integration. You seem to think it's one, or the other. WP7 is both.

    Don't forget editing and deleting comments...
    07-31-2011 04:10 PM
  18. jalb's Avatar
    MySpace? wow... is that one even still around anymore? =P
    I refreshed my profile the other day just for ****s and giggles. It's actually pretty good for music. I only thought of it becuase Tom Anderson is apparently addicted to Google Plus and posts like thirty times a day.
    07-31-2011 10:47 PM
  19. MyJuliet's Avatar
    I tried FB and Twitter and social hub, but the lack of features, so I deleted the account, and use third-party applications. Some improvement and some do not.
    08-01-2011 01:40 AM
  20. selfcreation's Avatar
    im glad they added social networks in . 90% of cell phone users use does apps ( i for one DONT , i evan made sure not to add my FB account cause i dont want my 500000friends in my contact list ( i save that for making phones calls )

    as for the compass , gyro , accele ect... that’s all coming in the next gen Wp or the 3rd gen ether ways its coming . the Iphone dint have it on the First model!..

    ok maybe they dint have all thes things on the first model but i also agree that when you come out with an OS 5 years later! not having thees features is not an excuse for it being a new OS . you had 5 years to watch the competition to see what they had ... MS failed a little on release , maybe they should of just waited to release the phone but with better features.

    as for not having all the apps . now we can say . HEy its a new OS . give them time .... we already have the 100 DL apps from Iphone ( or almost )

    All in all Wp is gona be able to do Exactly what all the other phones can... and BETTERR . i mean WEBOS was meant to be a phone 100% integrated to the internet (for social networks) . now ALL the phones do it HAH.
    08-01-2011 08:20 AM
  21. Curtieson's Avatar
    @Big D5 Agree!! Folks always ask for this feature and that feature....when they get it they complain about it.
    Anyone else find it funny he posted like that in a forum thread about Twitter?

    You know, we have "Quote Post" so we don't have to talk like we are on Twitter! haha
    08-01-2011 09:37 AM
  22. UpTownDC's Avatar
    Anyone else find it funny he posted like that in a forum thread about Twitter?

    You know, we have "Quote Post" so we don't have to talk like we are on Twitter! haha
    LOL!!! True..I forgot to hit quote!! But thanks for looking out!!!
    08-01-2011 09:42 AM
  23. Pete C's Avatar
    Yes, you can (like/unlike posts etc).
    You can like individual comments within a thread in Mango? Did they implement that in the People hub? They have always had the ability to like a wall post in People and the FB app, but not specific comments within that post. It's a major oversight IMO.
    08-01-2011 09:49 AM
  24. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    No you can't. You can like the initial comment, but not comments within the thread.
    You can like individual comments within a thread in Mango? Did they implement that in the People hub? They have always had the ability to like a wall post in People and the FB app, but not specific comments within that post. It's a major oversight IMO.
    Last edited by 1jaxstate1; 08-02-2011 at 08:43 AM. Reason: Because I'm Rick James...
    08-01-2011 10:27 AM
  25. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    If you don't want FB and T don't add the accounts. Windows Phone has the most secure OS and with Office and Skydrive added to the mix it gives businesses the most options. When it comes to a smart phone platform isn't that what we want choice?
    While I agree that WP7 is a GREAT OS and will be much improved after Mango, I have to respectfully disagree about it being "the most secure OS" and having Office. Coming from a BlackBerry environment, and not even having an Enterprise Server, I can tell you that BlackBerry is MUCH more secure. Little things like limiting the lock screen password to 4 digits is much less secure.

    As far as it having Office, it at best has an ultra-stripped down Office compatible suite. Formulas in Excel can't be entered (although I've heard that improves in Mango) and it's a pain to move between multiple sheets in a spreadsheet. Even the crappy Docs to Go on my BlackBerry worked better.

    All that said, I still prefer the WP7 OS and I truly believe that, in time, it will mature and improve in those areas. With Mango's release, I will be once again moving back to WP7.

    And, just to keep this thread somewhat on topic, my wife just got her new HTC Trophy over the weekend and she likes it so far even though she doesn't have a Facebook account, or Twitter, or any other social networking accounts. I think they're a great plus for those who do have such accounts but not having them doesn't preclude the usefulness of WP7 in the least.
    08-01-2011 02:33 PM
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