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  1. wolf1891's Avatar
    lol you guys are MAD. If everyone liked Windows Phone it wouldn't sell so bad.
    nope, not mad, just annoyed that a good opportunity for some broader public exposure to WP7 was wasted because of the "reviewer" appearing to let her own preconceived notions bias the review.
    08-22-2011 03:05 PM
  2. UpTownDC's Avatar
    lol you guys are MAD. If everyone liked Windows Phone it wouldn't sell so bad.
    Nope not mad at all. The only point that I would like to make is:
    If your job is to review Tech products and to render your opinion about the products....learn about and research the product so that you can speak intelligently about the product.
    08-22-2011 03:26 PM
  3. Winterfang's Avatar
    But the thing is, she said she wanted to try the phone and discover everything for herself, also she was open to comment feedback and actually took away one of the Cons she had upon finding out she was wrong.

    She didn't bashed WP7, she liked a lot of things about but it wasn't for her. I don't see her bashing it.
    08-22-2011 04:43 PM
  4. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I was hoping for praise or a good bashing. I don't like the middle of the road junk. But either way, if your phone reboots 15 times in a day, you have a faulty phone.
    08-22-2011 04:47 PM
  5. UpTownDC's Avatar
    But the thing is, she said she wanted to try the phone and discover everything for herself, also she was open to comment feedback and actually took away one of the Cons she had upon finding out she was wrong.

    She didn't bashed WP7, she liked a lot of things about but it wasn't for her. I don't see her bashing it.
    I really could care less if she bashed WP7 or not. That's not the point that I'm making. I'm an IT Director here in the DC area...when we (My Staff and I) review a Tech product....we learn and research about the device as much as we can before we provide any opinions about the product. That's the Professional way to provide a review/feedback about a product. That's the point that I'm making.
    Last edited by UpTownDC; 08-22-2011 at 05:01 PM. Reason: Typo
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    08-22-2011 04:51 PM
  6. Winterfang's Avatar
    I was hoping for praise or a good bashing. I don't like the middle of the road junk. But either way, if your phone reboots 15 times in a day, you have a faulty phone.
    Wait 15 times in a day? Where did she said that? My phone haven't reboot even once.
    08-22-2011 05:02 PM
  7. Jazmac's Avatar
    Wait 15 times in a day? Where did she said that? My phone haven't reboot even once.
    That woman lies like a rug. I sit in several windows phone forums and NOBODY ever claims such foolishness. She lied to impress her android friends.
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    08-22-2011 06:04 PM
  8. Yakolev's Avatar
    But where did she state it?
    08-22-2011 06:06 PM
  9. UpTownDC's Avatar
    But where did she state it?
    It was in the first paragraph of the Week 2 CNet article:
    It's the end of my second week of life with Windows Phone 7 Mango, and it's time to render a verdict. I should say at the outset that two weeks doesn't sound like a lot of time to live with an entirely new platform, and I might have lasted longer but for serious problems with the HTC Trophy I've been using (one-day record for spontaneous reboots: 15, including 3 in 15 minutes). That said, since my smartphone is a device I'm using almost constantly, I feel like I got to know the thing pretty well.

    Read more: Windows Phone 7 Challenge: Week 2, the verdict | Molly Rants - CNET News
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    08-22-2011 06:16 PM
  10. Winterfang's Avatar
    Who knows, maybe her phone was faulty. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, it's not like I love my phones any less because she didn't like it.
    08-22-2011 06:47 PM
  11. cdook's Avatar
    Wait 15 times in a day? Where did she said that? My phone haven't reboot even once.
    Something must have seriously been wrong with her phone. Any sane person would have called up Brandon Watson and asked what was going on. Can't say I've had any reboots on NoDo.
    08-22-2011 06:54 PM
  12. Winterfang's Avatar
    Well to be fair, it was a beta build.
    08-22-2011 07:03 PM
  13. UpTownDC's Avatar
    Well to be fair, it was a beta build.
    LOL!!! Most of us were running the beta build also....just to be fair I haven't heard of 15 reboots except from her. The bottom line is....she didn't do her job properly. I have one question for you...are you dating this chick? Because with all that has been pointed out about her "faulty" reporting....you have made it a point to of giving her the benefit of a doubt!!
    Just joking with ya!!
    08-22-2011 07:12 PM
  14. Yakolev's Avatar
    Nor have I ever had a reboot on my phone, actually none of my phones has ever rebooted unintentionally.

    Some people just can't handle their phones.
    08-22-2011 07:22 PM
  15. GekkoAce's Avatar
    I just had a thought... If she really used her WP7, she would have a little WP7 icon on at least one of her facebook posts... Nope.. None.
    I see she posted a lot during that timeframe on Twitter, but I don't have any ideas on how to tell if she used her WP7 for that.
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    08-22-2011 07:52 PM
  16. cdook's Avatar
    I just had a thought... If she really used her WP7, she would have a little WP7 icon on at least one of her facebook posts... Nope.. None.

    I see she posted a lot during that timeframe on Twitter, but I don't have any ideas on how to tell if she used her WP7 for that.
    I know when someone @replies me it'll send me an email and it'll tell me what they posted from. So it's being stored somewhere. It'd be funny if there weren't any WP7 posts... Further proof she didn't use the phone.
    08-22-2011 07:58 PM
  17. Winterfang's Avatar
    LOL!!! Most of us were running the beta build also....just to be fair I haven't heard of 15 reboots except from her. The bottom line is....she didn't do her job properly. I have one question for you...are you dating this chick? Because with all that has been pointed out about her "faulty" reporting....you have made it a point to of giving her the benefit of a doubt!!
    Just joking with ya!!
    Dating her? Not a chance, she looks geriatric. I just don't see the review being that bad, I though it was refreshing actually, so far all the others Mango previews where Di ck riding it hard and is nice to know it's not perfect and has room for improvement.
    08-22-2011 08:02 PM
  18. DontHate707's Avatar
    Yeah it def proves that they need a firmware update to answer some quick issues or maybe a nodo like update before tango or whatever.
    08-22-2011 08:13 PM
  19. GekkoAce's Avatar
    Dating her? Not a chance, she looks geriatric. I just don't see the review being that bad, I though it was refreshing actually, so far all the others Mango previews where Di ck riding it hard and is nice to know it's not perfect and has room for improvement.
    I agree with her thoughts about Skydrive. Today MS showed their version of WP7 and Xbox games working together. It didn't even use the cloud. MS needs to Improve their cloud services. The Live website SUCKS! The ONLY good thing is that I can read all my email accounts in one inbox. I hope it's because they've been working behind the scenes on a metro version, but that's probably wishfull thinking.
    08-22-2011 08:18 PM
  20. Winterfang's Avatar
    Skydrive is hard to use and very unintuitive.
    08-22-2011 08:26 PM
  21. UpTownDC's Avatar
    I was only joking about you dating her. But you are spot on. The OS could use some fixes. I'm sure that they or I hope that they are working on it.
    08-22-2011 08:31 PM
  22. DontHate707's Avatar
    Mango gives the devs enough power to make solutions to everything she's complaining about in terms of SkyDrive and nav right? Maybe even voice commands?
    Last edited by DontHate707; 08-22-2011 at 08:43 PM.
    08-22-2011 08:37 PM
  23. Winterfang's Avatar
    Possibly, though the navigation issue is just plain unacceptable.
    08-22-2011 08:47 PM
  24. Rico's Avatar
    According to her second video, her two biggest needs were speech to text and navigation, so Mango had two marks against it starting out.

    I'm really on the fence with her impressions. On one hand, she makes some valid complaints. Skydrive integration is lacking and the navigation is crippled. On the other, it feels like she didn't really use this as her main phone for two weeks. In two weeks, I'll know the vast majority of features of any OS, and advanced features/techniques for things which are really important to me. The comments she made in her "fit and finish" section of her first week felt like things she would've either figured out, or searched for/tweeted about and gotten an answer for. It certainly doesn't paint her as an expert in mobile tech, not in my eyes. I'll cut her some slack since this was in her "rants" section and not a formal review, but this isn't a Myriam Joire/Chris Ziegler or Ars Technica-level review to be sure.

    Ultimately, her and Scott Adam's views won't mean much in the long run. They generate a bit of buzz for the platform, and they ignite ******* matches for geeks on message boards. I still think her opinion and usage patterns point to the OS being great for most people using smartphones, and even better for those who are migrating to smartphones.
    Last edited by Rico; 08-22-2011 at 11:22 PM.
    08-22-2011 09:51 PM
  25. Dagolara's Avatar
    I just had a thought... If she really used her WP7, she would have a little WP7 icon on at least one of her facebook posts... Nope.. None.
    I see she posted a lot during that timeframe on Twitter, but I don't have any ideas on how to tell if she used her WP7 for that.
    She had a handful of tweets via Windows Live during her challenge.
    08-22-2011 10:17 PM
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