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08-21-2011 11:49 AM
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  1. GekkoAce's Avatar
    What would they do with the two OS's to merge them together? Would it help or hurt the two companies?

    I personally think it would be great. I would love a BB style phone with WP7. I don't think BB's famous form factor would be compatable with WP's required screen resolution though...

    Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
    08-17-2011 11:50 AM
  2. selfcreation's Avatar
    the only thing i can see from this merge is new phones from RIM , and maybe a intergration of BBM and TRUE push e-mailing.

    prety sure this int gona happen , RIM is the leader in the bussines world, just my teams send out about 30 a day.

    and MS also had the chance to buy RIM 6 months back , but have so much cash invested in WP and that it takes allot of work , they dont really have time to invest in other companies.

    i thinkt he Nokia deal is all we gona see for the next couple years
    Last edited by Se1fcr3ation; 08-17-2011 at 12:06 PM.
    08-17-2011 11:58 AM
  3. 3migo's Avatar
    What would they do with the two OS's to merge them together? Would it help or hurt the two companies?

    I personally think it would be great. I would love a BB style phone with WP7. I don't think BB's famous form factor would be compatable with WP's required screen resolution though...

    Sent from my SGH-i917 using Board Express
    A Torch style phone could run WP7 pretty well, and it'd bring one of the best physical keyboards in the business to the platform.

    My guess is that IF, and this is a big IF, MS buys RIM, they would simply have RIM perfect certain bits of WP7. Adding things like a better email client, notifications, notification light (yay!), etc. It'd wouldn't be so much a merge of the two OS's, but rather using RIM's experience and resources to improve WP7.
    08-17-2011 12:34 PM
  4. Yakolev's Avatar
    But what about the QNX platform RIM is working on or even Blackberry OS?
    08-17-2011 01:35 PM
  5. WayneDiesel34's Avatar
    We would have BBM on our WP7 lol
    08-17-2011 02:01 PM
  6. eragle's Avatar
    I think if that were to happen (and I seriously doubt that it does), we would see Blackberry pushed back into the business world with W7 pushed toward general consumers. Just guessing though. A large part of me hopes that doesn't happen.
    08-17-2011 02:54 PM
  7. cdook's Avatar
    It'd be nice to have BBM although we'll have Live Messenger with Mango and Skype in the future. I don't think there's much RIM would offer Microsoft. Maybe patents and their hardware manufacturing side of things, but MS doesn't need their software.
    08-17-2011 03:53 PM
  8. 3migo's Avatar
    It'd be nice to have BBM although we'll have Live Messenger with Mango and Skype in the future. I don't think there's much RIM would offer Microsoft. Maybe patents and their hardware manufacturing side of things, but MS doesn't need their software.
    I think if Ms was to utilize RIM's hardware, that we'd be seeing a decline in the amount of new phones, just like what we're seeing with Android+Motorola. Companies don't want to compete with an officially branded device. If MS was to buy RIM, it'd be purely for software development, and the patents.
    08-17-2011 04:32 PM
  9. selfcreation's Avatar
    I think if Ms was to utilize RIM's hardware, that we'd be seeing a decline in the amount of new phones, just like what we're seeing with Android+Motorola. Companies don't want to compete with an officially branded device. If MS was to buy RIM, it'd be purely for software development, and the patents.
    ANd BBM and E-mail..lol


    but seriously , NOkia is enought ,

    Next thing you know Apple is buying out Samsung for the S-AMOLED+ .... LOL OH GOD i dotn even want to think about it. it make me sad jus thinking about it.
    08-17-2011 05:36 PM
  10. 3migo's Avatar
    ANd BBM and E-mail..lol


    but seriously , NOkia is enought ,

    Next thing you know Apple is buying out Samsung for the S-AMOLED+ .... LOL OH GOD i dotn even want to think about it. it make me sad jus thinking about it.
    BBM and email are part of the software.

    Apple won't buy out Samsung, they just bought Nortel.
    08-17-2011 05:51 PM
  11. cdook's Avatar
    Plus there's the whole anti-trust thing if Apple buys another major carrier like Samsung.
    08-17-2011 06:17 PM
  12. justop26's Avatar
    We would have BBM on our WP7 lol
    That would give me the best of both worlds.

    (Not that I've ever had a BlackBerry, but everyone around me does (heck, the whole country!) and it would save me the trouble of IMing people)
    08-17-2011 08:52 PM
  13. scottd34's Avatar
    Blackberries would boot in under 10 minutes.. other then that, mostly software ip would be it probably.
    08-18-2011 06:34 AM
  14. cdook's Avatar
    Blackberries would boot in under 10 minutes.. other then that, mostly software ip would be it probably.
    Haha tell me about it. My BlackBerry Tour used to take 5 minutes to boot. I hear with the new OS and new phones they fixed that.
    08-18-2011 07:12 AM
  15. Dave Blake's Avatar
    If Microsoft were to buy BB it would only be to swallow it up to reduce competition. Microsoft would also then control all of BB's patents that would be a plus. As a former BB owner I see nothing of interest in the BB platform all the BB software and hardware is outdated. I don't know much about QNX there might be advantages there that I am not aware of.

    M2C
    Dave
    08-18-2011 07:17 AM
  16. GekkoAce's Avatar
    QNX is like what's on the playbook, and yes they released the playbook before having BES supported, so they probably would be dumb enough to release a phone without it too.

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using WP7!
    08-18-2011 09:21 AM
  17. Umm Yeah's Avatar
    If MS bought RIM...

    you'd have two disparate phone systems with two different trajectories and goals and strategies.

    • RIM requires physical connections to a computer to sync unless you are running it through a corporate server. MS puts all on the cloud.

    • RIM is focused on apps driving the experience. MS is focused on people connections driving the experience.

    • RIM emphasizes security over customer experience. MS emphasizes customer experience over security.

    • RIM designs their own proprietary hardware. MS farms out hardware manufacturing to various vendors.

    This combination makes no sense. If you like a particular form factor, e.g., the Torch, there are/can be the same form factor on WP7, e.g., Dell Venue Pro. What would there be to gain for either company?
    08-18-2011 11:17 AM
  18. GekkoAce's Avatar
    Where has MS not been concerned with security? The only lack of security I see is no VPN support. But IE9 is being heralded as the most secure browser on the market.
    I thought all BB devices ran through a corp server backend, even if it's run by your phone company for non-business people, so they do sync.
    MS is focused on making the OS simple and a great cloud experience, but that doesn't mean MS is not concerned with apps driving a better experience. MS is working hard to bring over many big time app makers. Plus, BB developers are all jumping ship, so how can BB rely on their apps in the future to drive an experience?

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using WP7!
    08-18-2011 12:06 PM
  19. thed's Avatar
    Where has MS not been concerned with security?
    I think the only security issue people might have a problem with is lack of full device encryption. Other than that I don't see how anyone could complain about security.

    I always thought the idea of BB being the most secure was a joke. Everything runs through RIM's servers and they readily hand over their data to any government that asks for it.
    08-18-2011 02:25 PM
  20. UpTownDC's Avatar
    Doesn't make sense for Microsoft to purchase BB. Maybe just to get them off of the market but that would be a waste of money to do so. Once Microsoft provides FULL handset encryption, then and only then would the Federal Gov't jump onboard with WP7. Until then...I'm stuck with two phones..a BB and my WP7.
    08-18-2011 03:00 PM
  21. 3migo's Avatar
    Haha tell me about it. My BlackBerry Tour used to take 5 minutes to boot. I hear with the new OS and new phones they fixed that.
    The new OS7 devices boot up in about a minute.
    08-18-2011 05:21 PM
  22. illegaloperation's Avatar
    If Microsoft buy RIM (which makes no sense), it will just be competing against its own OEMs.

    Microsoft now has a big advantage: OEMs disgusted by Google buying Motorola will give more effort to Windows Phone.

    Perhaps the most valuable thing RIM has is its patents which Microsoft can simply license from RIM.
    08-18-2011 10:17 PM
  23. Rico's Avatar
    Three CEOs.
    08-18-2011 10:31 PM
  24. wellsmanfu's Avatar
    MS buying RIM wouldn't be the best idea. Like others have said, they're just too different and the little benefits for WP7 would not be worth the cost.

    If anything, I'd rather see MS somehow buy the rights to WebOS from HP if possible. There's a lot of good in the platform, it was just too little too late from Palm and the initial hardware sucked. Imagine your WP7 phone with the great multitasking that WebOS has and the universal search that it has. I thought those were great. They have been out for a couple years now and , in my opinion, they are still better than anything the other guys have made. Plus MS with their patent portfolio with the Palm patent portfolio could make them almost untouchable in court and a very scary target to go after.
    08-19-2011 04:02 AM
  25. GekkoAce's Avatar
    MS buying RIM wouldn't be the best idea. Like others have said, they're just too different and the little benefits for WP7 would not be worth the cost.

    If anything, I'd rather see MS somehow buy the rights to WebOS from HP if possible. There's a lot of good in the platform, it was just too little too late from Palm and the initial hardware sucked. Imagine your WP7 phone with the great multitasking that WebOS has and the universal search that it has. I thought those were great. They have been out for a couple years now and , in my opinion, they are still better than anything the other guys have made. Plus MS with their patent portfolio with the Palm patent portfolio could make them almost untouchable in court and a very scary target to go after.
    MS is already planning universal search (see article with leaked Tango pics). I like the way multitasking works in Mango.
    08-19-2011 11:05 AM
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