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  1. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    09-11-2011 11:58 AM
  2. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Dissapointing if true, but we do have the rumour of the refreshed Omnia 7 with Mango and front facing camera, so they don't seem to be dissappearing overnight.

    I'm sure there will be plenty of WP7 handsets to chose from by the time Samsung depart if in fact this rumour is true.

    As long as I can still get a Super Amoled screen don't think I would be too bothered who makes it.
    09-11-2011 12:05 PM
  3. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Yeah, they say by 2012 they will be concentrating more on their Badu OS? So we'll get atleast one or two more Samsung phone. I've never heard of Badu OS. Seems as if these major Software companies buying hardware manufactures is have a unexpected effect.
    09-11-2011 12:09 PM
  4. ninjaap's Avatar
    Sucks if it's true. I just started liking their phones too.
    09-11-2011 12:14 PM
  5. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    No I hadn't heard of Bada either 1jaxstate1 until i looked into it. Seems like another WebOS to me, which doesn't sound too healthy.

    You can find out more about it here...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada_(operating_system)

    (If you wan't to that is, LOL) :)
    09-11-2011 12:16 PM
  6. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Yeah, I just looked it up. It doesn't look appealing at all.
    No I hadn't heard of Bad a either 1jaxstate1 until i looked into it. Seems like another WebOS to me, which doesn't sound too healthy.

    You can find out more about it here...

    Bada (operating system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    (If you wan't to that is, LOL) :)
    09-11-2011 12:19 PM
  7. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    No it doesn't, I agree.
    09-11-2011 12:21 PM
  8. Winterfang's Avatar
    Well if that's true then I don't see WP7 succeeding, The focus is by far the best selling WP7 device in here.
    09-11-2011 12:26 PM
  9. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Well if that's true then I don't see WP7 succeeding, The focus is by far the best selling WP7 device in here.
    I don't think WP7 depends solely on Samsung for it's sucess.

    If Samsung disappeared overnight i'd simply chose an HTC Titan or some other WP7 handset i liked.
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    09-11-2011 12:30 PM
  10. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    I don't care who makes the phone. As long as MS shows they are going to support the OS. I'm good. Nokia, Samsung, HTC, my uncle larry. makes no difference.
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    09-11-2011 12:43 PM
  11. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Does your uncle Larry make 4.7 inch Super Amoled handsets 1jaxstate1 ? Could you suggest that to him ? ;)

    Same casing as the Omnia 7 would suit me perfectly. :)
    09-11-2011 12:52 PM
  12. smartpatrol's Avatar
    My response from the other thread:

    Bummer, that's really bad news. Samsung makes some great smartphone hardware. It's a shame they will be moving away from WP7.

    Honestly though I'm not too worried. I've always thought that Nokia will be the real star of the WP7 show. They're IMO the best smartphone hardware manufacturer out there. More importantly, at this point, they're also the ONLY ones who have a real interest in seeing WP7 succeed. The other OEMs are just testing the waters to see if they can make a few extra bucks from WP7 on the side while they get all their real sales from Android.

    I also think this greatly increases the chances of MS buying Nokia altogether. The way I see it, MS's strategy has been this:

    Plan A: license the OS to 3rd-party manufacturers. Get all the smartphone manufacturers competing against one another, cranking out low-margin hardware with WP7 on it. Rake in the lions share of the profit through OS licenses and by funneling people towards MS's online services. (The PC/Android model)

    Plan B: buy Nokia and build the hardware themselves. Possibly even buy RIM if the price is right. Create a vertically-integrated smartphone business where they own the hardware, the OS, the ecosystem, and even the store where the products are sold. It's a risky plan, but the potential profits are far higher than Plan A. (AKA the Apple model, which has made them the most valuable company in the world.)

    Not coincidentally, Google took a huge step towards the Apple model when they bought Motorola. Samsung already has their own OS (Bada) and you can bet they want some Apple-like profits for themselves. I think it's very possible that the Apple model is the only business model that can be viable in the long-term -- and I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing.
    09-11-2011 12:58 PM
  13. smartpatrol's Avatar
    I should add, it's also possible that HTC could see this as a good opportunity for them. They now potentially have a much bigger piece of the WP7 market.
    09-11-2011 01:03 PM
  14. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Yeah, I hoping MS does their own hardware, or just buy Nokia. I give the Nokia fans ****, but that just for fun (but that leads to DM from Big D5 saying knock it off :)). I've been playing with a few Android phones, and a iPod touch over the last few days, And I must say. WP7 OS is just better. I'm not a fanboy at all. I can't see myself leaving WP in the next two years. I
    My response from the other thread:

    Bummer, that's really bad news. Samsung makes some great smartphone hardware. It's a shame they will be moving away from WP7.

    Honestly though I'm not too worried. I've always thought that Nokia will be the real star of the WP7 show. They're IMO the best smartphone hardware manufacturer out there. More importantly, at this point, they're also the ONLY ones who have a real interest in seeing WP7 succeed. The other OEMs are just testing the waters to see if they can make a few extra bucks from WP7 on the side while they get all their real sales from Android.

    I also think this greatly increases the chances of MS buying Nokia altogether. The way I see it, MS's strategy has been this:

    Plan A: license the OS to 3rd-party manufacturers. Get all the smartphone manufacturers competing against one another, cranking out low-margin hardware with WP7 on it. Rake in the lions share of the profit through OS licenses and by funneling people towards MS's online services. (The PC/Android model)

    Plan B: buy Nokia and build the hardware themselves. Possibly even buy RIM if the price is right. Create a vertically-integrated smartphone business where they own the hardware, the OS, the ecosystem, and even the store where the products are sold. It's a risky plan, but the potential profits are far higher than Plan A. (AKA the Apple model, which has made them the most valuable company in the world.)

    Not coincidentally, Google took a huge step towards the Apple model when they bought Motorola. Samsung already has their own OS (Bada) and you can bet they want some Apple-like profits for themselves. I think it's very possible that the Apple model is the only business model that can be viable in the long-term -- and I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing.
    09-11-2011 01:14 PM
  15. Dave Blake's Avatar
    I say BY BY I have never been a big SamSung fan. I'm still waiting on them to fix all the problems with the Intrepid I keep it in a drawer just in case... lol

    P.S. This is just a rumor I wouldn't believe it till you read it here.
    09-11-2011 01:20 PM
  16. smartpatrol's Avatar
    Yeah, I hoping MS does their own hardware, or just buy Nokia. I give the Nokia fans ****, but that just for fun (but that leads to DM from Big D5 saying knock it off :)). I've been playing with a few Android phones, and a iPod touch over the last few days, And I must say. WP7 OS is just better. I'm not a fanboy at all. I can't see myself leaving WP in the next two years. I
    Yeah, people seem to forget that Nokia were the world's #1 smartphone seller up until earlier this year. They only recently fell behind Apple and Samsung because a) they completely botched the US market and b) they were stuck on their aging Symbian OS while iOS and Android blew right past them.

    Now that they have a great OS, a real US strategy, and backing from MS, I really think they can be a force to be reckoned with.

    I know you're mad at Nokia for ditching MeeGo, but hey, at least they didn't switch to freaking Android!
    09-11-2011 01:25 PM
  17. GekkoAce's Avatar
    Sucks if it's true. I just started liking their phones too.
    Looks like garbage. I doubt Samsung would ever put all their eggs in the Bada basket. "In July 2010, Samsung Apps had 300 applications to offer, 70% of them being free. Samsung expected to have 7000 applications in its application store by the end of 2010. It did not achieve this aim and had around 3000 applications at the end of the first quarter of 2011" -Bada wiki
    09-11-2011 01:28 PM
  18. fernandez21's Avatar
    Never been a fan of samsung anything, so it won't effect my purchases, but I realize other people like their phones and this is a disappointment in that regard. But its still 1 1/2 years away and if by then WP7 could be a big success at which case they could easily change their tune.

    I like though that it is planned two years in the future and not over night, hear that HP?!?!?
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    09-11-2011 03:58 PM
  19. theefman's Avatar
    As I've always said, MS put their mobile life in the hands of android OEM's. At the end of the day Samsung only cares about $$$, so with the hardware issues they've had with updates and other reported issues from Euro users, licensing fees for WP7, relative low sales compared to their cash cow android, and bada being their own OS and therefore cost-free, it wouldnt surprise me. The signs were there, from their WP7-less IFA event to the absence of a WP7 client for their chat service.

    What MS needs to do though is wake up and realise that apart from Nokia, they cant rely on a single one of the current WP7 OEM's and really look hard at whether that is the right route to go with WP7.
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    09-11-2011 04:43 PM
  20. HeyCori's Avatar
    Money talks. If/When WP7 hits big then Samsung will continue making phones.

    However, if this is true, then that means that Samsung is getting ready for the eventual hardware/software war. The big players have already paired off.

    Microsoft/Nokia
    Apple/Apple
    Google/Motorola
    RIM/RIM
    HP/Web.... :(

    Samsung knows the hardware manufacturers are going to get preferred treatment and probably wants to position their Bada OS to eventually compete with with big boys so they're not left out in the cold. However, I would have to question their decision to add yet another OS into a crowded market.

    Then again, Samsung makes massive bank so they can do whatever they want, lol.

    Samsung Quietly Continues To Conquer The World | TechCrunch
    09-11-2011 05:28 PM
  21. HeyCori's Avatar
    I should add, it's also possible that HTC could see this as a good opportunity for them. They now potentially have a much bigger piece of the WP7 market.
    This is from June but apparently HTC already runs the WP7 market, lol.

    HTC claims Windows Phone 7 dominance, sells 1 in 2 WP7 handsets | WMPoweruser
    09-11-2011 05:34 PM
  22. benjiprice's Avatar
    I don't believe the news, but if it's true it doesn't make much sense. For one I don't think it's the right moment to make this decision. 2012 could be a defining year for WP7 and a lot could change. I'm concerned that new devices will make it too late to the game because so many people will lock in 2yr contracts with iPhone5, but the OS is still in a great position to grow. There's also less competition right now in WP7 devices, so capturing a big share of sales is easier.

    As a longer-term strategy, Bada doesn't make sense. It's just like we see in so many industries, no one wants to *just* be the infrastructure provider, everyone wants to be special. Well, really they want access to a cut of content and app sales. The problem is that they'll fail. There's far too much to build in terms of integration, partnerships and marketing to match what Apple, Google and MS can provide. It's going to be a massive waste of money and they'll lose their #2 position in phone sales.
    I hope they abandon this silly idea.
    09-11-2011 09:31 PM
  23. willied's Avatar
    It's a bad idea if this is true. Samsung should take advantage of the fact that Microsoft is making a cutting edge mobile OS and that all Samsung has is a WebOS/Android look-alike.
    09-11-2011 09:36 PM
  24. Rico's Avatar
    I mentioned some time ago that it may make more sense in the long run for larger OEMs like Samsung to spin their own OSes versus licensing and having to play by the rules of the licenser and I still think that's true. I hope that's not the case here as I do like Samsung hardware, but I'm honestly not putting much stock in this for numerous reasons, first starting with the fact that SamFirmware is generally reliable from what I've seen, but not an official source.
    09-11-2011 09:54 PM
  25. cdook's Avatar
    Was there an article out a year ago that said 2012 half their handsets would be WP7? Maybe I misread it. A few other sites are saying the source on this rumor is a guy who was upset with the XDA due to him advertising his site. Until Samsung confirms or denies this, or we see a second source I wouldn't worry too much.

    I love my Focus, but I'm sure Nokia of HTC will fill the void when my contract is over.
    09-11-2011 10:16 PM
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