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  1. jmerrey's Avatar
    Here it is: Updating to Official Mango from 7720 RTM | Windows Phone Forums

    source: @zunesupport & @winphonesupport

    Only time will tell. But it doesn't really matter at this point, because like others have said, reverting back to nodo isn't that big of a deal. It's more about getting to say: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" LOL :D
    I truly hope you get the empty satisfaction of saying "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

    Reading that link doesn't really say anything to be honest. He didn't ask on twitter about downgrading to nodo before mango, he asked if people on mango rtm would be eligible for the official mango upgrade. Big difference.
    09-14-2011 03:44 PM
  2. ninjaap's Avatar
    I truly hope you get the empty satisfaction of saying "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"
    If not for the empty satisfaction, then for all the people that lost or did not back up NoDo :)
    09-14-2011 04:17 PM
  3. ryude's Avatar
    Even if I can't update to the official, the leaked RTM mango I have is sufficient for me. It'll be another year before an update that I want comes out and by then I'll buy a new phone.
    09-14-2011 04:23 PM
  4. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Too bad Microsoft doesn't have the pull to get AT&T to offer early upgrades for EVERYONE that's at least 1 year into their contracts, like Apple did.
    Even if I can't update to the official, the leaked RTM mango I have is sufficient for me. It'll be another year before an update that I want comes out and by then I'll buy a new phone.
    09-14-2011 04:26 PM
  5. ryude's Avatar
    I'm only 8 months from the end of my contract, I am perfectly happy with my Focus. This is the first time I have no real desire to "upgrade" to a different smartphone. This phone never crashes, freezes, eats battery, or any number of other problems. Unless the Focus S is just wayyy better screen, performance, battery, et cetera then I have no reason to upgrade.
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    09-14-2011 04:34 PM
  6. ninjaap's Avatar
    Well I asked again, specifically asking if I have to revert back to nodo. This time time I got this:

    @ZuneSupport: @AP_ninja I would suggest that you post is the Mango beta forum Mango Update - App Hub Forums ^SM

    That should clear everything up for everyone /s
    09-14-2011 04:39 PM
  7. Big Supes's Avatar

    Just pull the switch Microsoft, it's only 2 and a half hours till tomorrow here in the UK anyway LOL :)
    HA! This is quite sad, but tonight, I'll be sleeping with my phone underneath my pillow...

    You. Never. Know.

    ;) :P
    09-14-2011 05:20 PM
  8. jfa1's Avatar
    I'm still not convinced there is no upgrade from 7720. I'll wait till I start seeing other Surrounds getting the update before I revert back to nodo. What's the worst that can happen? Nothing. It just won't give a notification. Besides being on ATT it might be a longer wait.
    I a hoping not as ATT indicates that it coming and they will be among the first to update and with the article here at WPCentral aboiut Bransonm Watson and Joe Bellfiore tweeting for developers to get their marketplace apps Mangfied that its coming real soon!
    09-14-2011 05:40 PM
  9. jfa1's Avatar
    HA! This is quite sad, but tonight, I'll be sleeping with my phone underneath my pillow...

    You. Never. Know.

    ;) :P
    Nice you beat me to it!!
    09-14-2011 05:42 PM
  10. jmerrey's Avatar
    Well I asked again, specifically asking if I have to revert back to nodo. This time time I got this:

    @ZuneSupport: @AP_ninja I would suggest that you post is the Mango beta forum Mango Update - App Hub Forums ^SM

    That should clear everything up for everyone /s
    I'm not sure how that clears anything up. I think what's obvious is that MS has stated many times that you will have to downgrade to nodo before you upgrade to the retail mango if you upgraded with the developer mango. What we don't know is how the phone will react if you installed the supposed final release version that was leaked by that german source, or any other "non sanctioned" version. Personally I would prefer it update without the nodo backtrack, but either way is fine...
    09-14-2011 05:43 PM
  11. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    How much better can a screen get. Seems like WP7 users feel about their screens like Android users feel a out their dual processors

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    09-14-2011 06:13 PM
  12. Rico's Avatar
    How much better can a screen get. Seems like WP7 users feel about their screens like Android users feel a out their dual processors

    Sent from my Samsung Focus using Board Express
    I want a 4.3" screen. I can see the sub pixels on reds and oranges, especially against a black background. Reds also update poorly compared to other colors, something I've been sensitive to since the PSP. The processor bump will be welcome and dual core should mean better battery life. I'm hoping beyond hope that it has 16GB of internal storage in addition to a user-accessible microSD slot.

    All in all, the Focus S should be a nice, albeit predictable bump up from it's predecessor. I'm looking forward to getting one.
    09-14-2011 07:54 PM
  13. ninjaap's Avatar
    I'm not sure how that clears anything up. I think what's obvious is that MS has stated many times that you will have to downgrade to nodo before you upgrade to the retail mango if you upgraded with the developer mango. What we don't know is how the phone will react if you installed the supposed final release version that was leaked by that german source, or any other "non sanctioned" version. Personally I would prefer it update without the nodo backtrack, but either way is fine...
    I was being sarcastic :)
    09-14-2011 08:25 PM
  14. red grenadine's Avatar
    I'm almost certain Microsoft has focused on the AT&T situation and gotten them on board for a timely Mango rollout. They are the premier WP7 carrier in the US and easily have the most WP7 market share of US carriers.

    I mean, if MS bungles this, we might as well all throw in the towel and buy an iPhone or Android, because it'll be indicative that there's no way MS will execute on their phone strategy. This is nut up or shut up time, really
    09-14-2011 09:12 PM
  15. jmerrey's Avatar
    I was being sarcastic :)
    ;)
    09-14-2011 10:11 PM
  16. cckgz4's Avatar
    *claps hands in glee*
    09-15-2011 12:33 AM
  17. matiu_00's Avatar
    For anybody who owns an HD7, that updated to Mango, but didn't save a backup of NoDo and is worried about getting the official update through Zune...

    Here is a list of all the Stock ROMs for all carriers of the HTC HD7. These will bring your phone back to a fresh off-the-shelf state (pre NoDo). And, YES, you will be able to receive all future updates through zune. Including Mango.
    [16 ROMs]Windows Phone 7 Branded ROMs for HD7, U/D on 19.03.2011 by ansar - xda-developers

    I was pretty worried til I found the stock T-Mobile US ROM. Now my phones ready for the roll out!
    (This will perform a hard reset and apps and games will be lost but can be easily reinstalled)
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    09-15-2011 12:21 PM
  18. snohman's Avatar
    i hope i can find something similar for my trophy!
    09-15-2011 04:56 PM
  19. Luisraul924's Avatar
    For anybody who owns an HD7, that updated to Mango, but didn't save a backup of NoDo and is worried about getting the official update through Zune...

    Here is a list of all the Stock ROMs for all carriers of the HTC HD7. These will bring your phone back to a fresh off-the-shelf state (pre NoDo). And, YES, you will be able to receive all future updates through zune. Including Mango.
    [16 ROMs]Windows Phone 7 Branded ROMs for HD7, U/D on 19.03.2011 by ansar - xda-developers

    I was pretty worried til I found the stock T-Mobile US ROM. Now my phones ready for the roll out!
    (This will perform a hard reset and apps and games will be lost but can be easily reinstalled)
    Do you know what the difference is between the two TMOUS ROMs? Just wanna flash the latest one so that I don't have to wait longer than I need to when re-updating to mango lol
    09-15-2011 11:41 PM
  20. sandmanfvr's Avatar
    I went to XDA forums and did the FULL how to. Now I am on RTM Mango like many and have a FULL 2 gig backup of my nodo device. IF I need to go back, just click restore and go to that, update zune (never went past beta from that forum), then let it update. BUT RTM is not beta, which people confuse. There will be a process to go from RTM to carrier specific mango, just IF the common folk like us get to use it.
    09-16-2011 12:57 AM
  21. Luisraul924's Avatar
    I went to XDA forums and did the FULL how to. Now I am on RTM Mango like many and have a FULL 2 gig backup of my nodo device. IF I need to go back, just click restore and go to that, update zune (never went past beta from that forum), then let it update. BUT RTM is not beta, which people confuse. There will be a process to go from RTM to carrier specific mango, just IF the common folk like us get to use it.
    So; SINCE we "regular" peeps (non-devs) DIDN'T get to use it, well, not officially anyways, you're saying that we won't have an update path from RTM to commercial release other than to roll back?
    09-16-2011 11:22 AM
  22. sandmanfvr's Avatar
    I don't know, as I am not Microsoft. :) But since we are on RTM, then there will be an upgrade, path but it might be only for Microsoft employees or devs you know. Why I did a backup. Maybe devs can show us how to do it, if not I can restore and do that.
    09-16-2011 09:51 PM
  23. Luisraul924's Avatar
    I don't know, as I am not Microsoft. :) But since we are on RTM, then there will be an upgrade, path but it might be only for Microsoft employees or devs you know. Why I did a backup. Maybe devs can show us how to do it, if not I can restore and do that.
    hmm... I see. Well I have a full 2 gig 7392 backup but is on another computer of mine that is now just collecting dust pretty much... I forgot to snatch it from the harddrive as I told myself "I'll do it later" cuz it's a freakin huge file but later came and I didn't do it so I'm not sure what would be easier at this point.
    09-16-2011 11:17 PM
  24. ninjaap's Avatar
    Here it is: Updating to Official Mango from 7720 RTM | Windows Phone Forums

    source: @zunesupport & @winphonesupport

    Only time will tell. But it doesn't really matter at this point, because like others have said, reverting back to nodo isn't that big of a deal. It's more about getting to say: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" LOL :D
    I truly hope you get the empty satisfaction of saying "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

    Reading that link doesn't really say anything to be honest. He didn't ask on twitter about downgrading to nodo before mango, he asked if people on mango rtm would be eligible for the official mango upgrade. Big difference.
    Now can I say it: "I told you soooooooooooo!" :D

    More on the Mango Friends and Family Pre-Cleanup | wpcentral | Windows Phone News, Forums, and Reviews

    Bravo MS, for their decision to embrace and support our hobby :)
    09-26-2011 03:35 PM
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