1. jasqid's Avatar
    Forgive me if I am wrong, im not a dev. But if MS is telling all devs to update their apps ASAP... NOW... doesnt that create a problem for devs if Mango is delayed through Fall?

    I read about the requirements for developing for WP and any change creates a build number change. Once these devs use the SDK to make their apps "mango compatible" for the "multi-tasking/instant resume" to work... if Mango is delayed that means the update will not launch to non-mango phones.

    Joe says "Fall" which could mean from this Thursday through Dec 21. IF the later becomes the case, does this mean devs cant release ANY updates because the build number has increased for the app's mango update? In which case if they discover a major flaw in their app, they would not be able to do anything about until Mango is released. (?)

    I cant see that MS would do that to the devs. Telling them to update their apps to Mango NOW and then push the launch back... Fall? Nov 15, or Dec 20.
    09-19-2011 08:50 AM
  2. selfcreation's Avatar
    well what ever version of Mango that DEVs have now is the FINAL version ( like the Leaked RTM ) Carriers just simply add MINOR updates to it so i can run smother on there network and add Carrier related APPS ( like see my bill type thing )

    the only thing that worries me is that we will have 2 market place..... oR you simply wont be able to DL mango apps ( your gona get an error message ) until YOUR carrier release the Update.


    again i could also be wrong :P
    09-19-2011 09:33 AM
  3. velvetelvis's Avatar
    havnt there been apps that are missing from the market place already? i think i read someplace that when they are mango apps you wont see them with nodo. but, much like you, i may be wrong. and if you ask my wife, i usually am wrong.
    09-19-2011 09:58 AM
  4. washi.brandon's Avatar
    well what ever version of Mango that DEVs have now is the FINAL version ( like the Leaked RTM ) Carriers just simply add MINOR updates to it so i can run smother on there network and add Carrier related APPS ( like see my bill type thing )

    the only thing that worries me is that we will have 2 market place..... oR you simply wont be able to DL mango apps ( your gona get an error message ) until YOUR carrier release the Update.


    again i could also be wrong :P
    to my knowledge: marketplace wise, mango apps are only shown in the marketplace once you update. same as update wise. the app will only get a update notification when you update. so there is only one marketplace. just certain stuff hidden until you update. I could be wrong though ;)

    but since I've updated, I'm seeing apps that I've never seen before.
    09-19-2011 10:01 AM
  5. Judge_Daniel's Avatar
    I'm fairly certain that apps compiled to run on Mango will only show up in the marketplace on mango devices, although, if the app had a NoDo version prior to updating to Mango, it will be saved for the non-upgraded devices. That means Mango phones will be able to get NoDo and Mango apps, while NoDo phones can get NoDo and the NoDo-version of Mango (if available) apps.

    Therefore, the nodo version of apps will no longer be able to be updated after the mango version has been released and if an app has only been created using the mango tools, it will never be available on nodo phones.
    09-19-2011 12:08 PM
  6. jasqid's Avatar
    Well, thats my point percisley. The Mango apps and mango updated apps will not appear in the marketplaces. But what happens if Mango ends up being late "fall"?

    Can a dev still make an update to the app for nodo phones after they released a mango update?

    I cant see that MS would tell all the devs to update their apps to Mango "NOW"... and then push it back to "late fall".
    09-19-2011 12:26 PM
  7. selfcreation's Avatar
    Well, thats my point percisley. The Mango apps and mango updated apps will not appear in the marketplaces. But what happens if Mango ends up being late "fall"?

    Can a dev still make an update to the app for nodo phones after they released a mango update?

    I cant see that MS would tell all the devs to update their apps to Mango "NOW"... and then push it back to "late fall".

    thats a good point , but if you think about it

    MS is basically giving DEVS 2-3 months to get every thing to MANGO...

    NODO users cant see mango apps

    Mango users cant see NODO apps... but MS will also block NODO apps from getting past the approval section...i think... AND I HOPE!! .. cause NODO limits you allot compare to what MANGO does... basicly once mango comes out ... thats all u get!! and NODO dies with the update...

    and this would also support there NO PHONE left behind policies. witch is GOAL!! if not, we would break away into a Android 3-4 marketplace ( one for each update )
    09-19-2011 12:31 PM
  8. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Can a dev still make an update to the app for nodo phones after they released a mango update?
    Nope, once the Mango update is released no further NoDo update is permissable. The NoDo app is then frozen.

    Won't matter cause we'll all be getting Mango on Friday as you know jasqid. ;)
    09-19-2011 12:33 PM
  9. jasqid's Avatar
    Nope, once the Mango update is released no further NoDo update is permissable. The NoDo app is then frozen.

    Won't matter cause we'll all be getting Mango on Friday as you know jasqid. ;)
    Actually... Fall starts on Thursday... so heres to hope and change. :/
    09-19-2011 02:04 PM
  10. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Well the big day last week, that turned out to be not the big day, was Thursday, so here's hoping you're right jasqid. :)
    09-19-2011 02:08 PM
  11. baseballbert's Avatar
    @velvetelvis, I think our wives know each other!



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    09-19-2011 02:22 PM
  12. selfcreation's Avatar
    Actually... Fall starts on Thursday... so heres to hope and change. :/
    fall starts on sept 23.. friday ..

    http://www.almanac.com/content/first-day-seasons

    BUT WAIT..

    no its starts on the 21rst: http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...st-day-of-fall

    WTF ..... X-mas is now on the 26 and boxing day the 29th.... New years is now in june......

    i dont udnerstand...im comfused.... this an other MS joke??

    we are getting tango ahead of mango.....
    Last edited by Se1fcr3ation; 09-19-2011 at 02:34 PM.
    09-19-2011 02:24 PM
  13. velvetelvis's Avatar
    @velvetelvis, I think our wives know each other!



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    im lucky, i get to be right sometimes.
    09-19-2011 02:26 PM
  14. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Autumn in the UK begins Wednesday 21st according to my calendar.

    So of course everyone else will have to wait till Thursday or Friday.

    Only fair. :)
    09-19-2011 02:29 PM
  15. jfa1's Avatar
    Actually... Fall starts on Thursday... so heres to hope and change. :/
    I am pretty sure the first day of Fall or Autumn falls on Friday the 23rd at least thats what Joe Bellfiore says and my regular calendar on wall at home. but thursday or Friday would be fine with me but it could be the week or week after. I cant imagine it would be later than that but it could be december 20 th the day before the winter solstice.
    09-19-2011 02:40 PM
  16. cckgz4's Avatar
    Hmmm...............
    09-21-2011 12:04 AM
  17. scdkad's Avatar
    Once we install Mango will we have to uninstall the NoDo version of an app then install the Mango-ized version?
    09-21-2011 12:33 AM
  18. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Once we install Mango will we have to uninstall the NoDo version of an app then install the Mango-ized version?
    No the update will just show as normal scdkad. No need to uninstall. :)
    09-21-2011 02:28 AM
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