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10-24-2011 12:11 AM
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  1. mdelacoma's Avatar
    I've been loyal to WebOS for a couple of years now, but my Veer just isn't cutting it anymore. Plus HP and WebOS are dead and I've decided Windows Phone is my platform of choice moving forward. My first WP (Focus) arrives tomorrow night. Coffee told me to go to Live.com and create an account. I set up a hotmail account. Is this all I needed to do? He also had recommendations for adding a SD card but I've decided to forego that option. I've done a little reading in these forums and they seem to be hit or miss. I don't need the storage enough to warrant the possible headaches. I didn't want to use my upgrade so I bought the Focus off Ebay and plan to get used to WP while waiting for better phones either later this year or early next year.

    So that's my situation. What would be helpful is if the WP veterans could give me some advice as to what I should do when I get it. Is the Mango update now available for 1.4? Or do I need to remove the battery and see if I have 1.3 or 1.4? I know there are things I can sign up for if I WANT them (Zune pass) but is there anything I NEED to sign up for. Was that hotmail account all I needed to do? Are there any other suggestions?

    Glad to be here. This site reminds me a lot of Precentral. Which is a good thing. I'm looking forward to using this Focus and who knows what else in the future. I appreciate any help anyone is willing to provide
    10-11-2011 08:11 PM
  2. Coffee's Avatar
    it's good to know if you have 1.3 or 1.4 anyway. I bought my Focus outright, too, so I could put it on t-mobile. It's likely you'll have some updates when you plug in, prob including Mango.

    You don't NEED anything else other than a Live account. You can use your Live account for a Zune trial if you like.

    some other things I did, that you don't have to:

    forward other email accounts to your Hotmail (you can add other email accounts to your phone if you'd prefer, I just like them all in one place.)

    Check out the online marketplace for apps that you want to install when you get the phone going. (windowsphone.com)

    Install the Zune software on the PC you'd like to use to sync up. You'll need zune to sync media even if you don't have the pass or purchase anything.
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    10-11-2011 08:25 PM
  3. mdelacoma's Avatar
    Thanks again, Coffee. The first thing I did when creating the hotmail account was to export all my yahoo contacts over to hotmail.

    Do I download the Zune software from a website or will I have that option when I connect my phone to the computer? Or do I need the Zune software on my computer first so that the phone is recognized?
    10-11-2011 08:34 PM
  4. Coffee's Avatar
    You'll need the Zune software to connect the phone up, get updates, etc. After that you can set it up to wirelessly sync and not even use the PC that much.

    software at: http://zune.net/en-US/
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    10-11-2011 08:35 PM
  5. mdelacoma's Avatar
    You'll need the Zune software to connect the phone up, get updates, etc. After that you can set it up to wirelessly sync and not even use the PC that much.

    software at: Zune Music + Video | Zune.net
    Outstanding! Thank you very much
    10-11-2011 08:42 PM
  6. Winterfang's Avatar
    Man this boards are becoming so lively later =)
    10-12-2011 12:00 AM
  7. mdelacoma's Avatar
    I thought I read a reply in another thread that said something about running the power all the way down after the phone's very first charge.

    Is this the right thing to do for the battery?
    10-12-2011 04:06 PM
  8. Wiccan Lagar's Avatar
    I thought I read a reply in another thread that said something about running the power all the way down after the phone's very first charge.

    Is this the right thing to do for the battery?
    I would recommend that. Either way, the battery is not charged very much out of the box so after your done playing with it for a little bit, setting it up, the battery is just as good as dead.

    I would recharge it fully and have it drain again. You should be golden after that.

    When I had my Pre 2 people complained about the battery life (including myself.) I tried that trick and my battery lasted me through the day. Def works.
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    10-12-2011 04:14 PM
  9. mdelacoma's Avatar
    Thanks Steveg. I just got home about 30 min ago and the phone was on my porch! I have been trying to get started but have a question. Can I not set up my phone to sync with my Yahoo email? I got my Live account with hotmail set up but I only set up that email to have the Live account. I use Yahoo. Is there a way to do this?
    10-12-2011 07:24 PM
  10. Coffee's Avatar
    add another email account.

    settings-email and accounts - yahoo
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    10-12-2011 07:45 PM
  11. Judge_Daniel's Avatar
    Thanks Steveg. I just got home about 30 min ago and the phone was on my porch! I have been trying to get started but have a question. Can I not set up my phone to sync with my Yahoo email? I got my Live account with hotmail set up but I only set up that email to have the Live account. I use Yahoo. Is there a way to do this?
    I have my Yahoo (@ymail.com) account synced to my Windows Phone. It may have been added in Mango, though. I don't recall when I added it. I received this phone after Mango's release. On my phone (Samsung Focus w/ Mango), you go to Settings>email+accounts>add an account>Yahoo! Mail. It is the third option on that page.
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    10-12-2011 07:55 PM
  12. jimski's Avatar
    You should have no problem setting up a Yahoo account, or pretty much any other for that matter. Don't forget to visit XBox Live to setup your account (use the same ID as your Hotmail account) and create your avatar. And get your free SkyDrive setup (live.com>SkyDrive) so you can sync Office documents and OneNote files (with your desktop).

    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
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    10-12-2011 09:56 PM
  13. mdelacoma's Avatar
    Thanks for all the help. I was up all night playing with the phone and running the battery down. After that happened I plugged it in to charge it up and found out that the charger that came with the phone will not charge the phone. It's kind of loose. Is that common with the Focus? I used my charger from my Veer and it started taking a charge. However, it's been charging now for about 10 hrs and is only at about 90%. Not sure what's going on here.

    I was able to get my Yahoo Mail set up. Thanks for helping out there. I didn't see it at first. However, I am now getting an "Attention required" message under Yahoo in Settings>email +accounts. When I tap on it it says: Not updated. The server you are trying to connect to doesn't support Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync. Error code 85030022. I don't know what this Yahoo is for. I have the Yahoo Mail. What's the difference? This error message was not there at first. I forced the Mango update after the battery drain and now I'm getting it. Not sure why.

    I also have a question about the multitasking in Mango. I would like to compare the information from two different websites. I have one open out of the five available. It is all the way to the right. Everytime I try to open the other web page (by tapping on one of the other four open pages then the Internet Explorer icon) it replaces the original web page. It's so frustrating. Can I not have more than one internet page open at a time? If so, how do I do that?
    10-13-2011 02:15 PM
  14. Coffee's Avatar
    You can use the Internet Explorer 'tabs' option (in the menu) to see different web sites you've opened instead of multitasking.

    not sure why you're getting an activesync error on yahoo.

    I've noticed the same thing on a micro-usb charger I had - some of them just aren't as tight and don't charge. No idea why. I got an OEM one and all is good.
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    10-13-2011 08:30 PM
  15. mdelacoma's Avatar
    I notified the Ebay seller and the response was that another would be sent to me. Awesome. Hopefully that fixes the problem. My old Palm USB charger works so I have to believe it's the charger not the phone. We'll see.

    Still not sure what I'm doing wrong when it comes to having more than 1 open webpage in multitasking. Everytime I have 1 webpage open and try to open another, it simply replaces the other instead of opening a 2nd.

    This phone is so much nicer than any other Palm phone I've ever had. But I gotta admit, even after only 1 day...WP is just not as user friendly as WebOS. Simple as that. But Palm, HP and WebOS are dead. I refuse to go Android or iOS, so I'll try to figure WP out.
    10-14-2011 12:10 AM
  16. lumic's Avatar
    Still not sure what I'm doing wrong when it comes to having more than 1 open webpage in multitasking. Everytime I have 1 webpage open and try to open another, it simply replaces the other instead of opening a 2nd.
    Tap the three dots in the bottom right corner of IE, scroll to settings and change "Open links from open applications in" to "A new tab".
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    10-14-2011 03:41 AM
  17. mdelacoma's Avatar
    Thank you so much, lumic. That's so much better now. Maybe you can help with another one? Is there a way to change the alert for the keys at the bottom? The back arrow, windows and search keys vibrate when I touch them. I would rather they make a sound or nothing at all.
    10-17-2011 08:51 PM
  18. baseballbert's Avatar
    Welcome to the WP tribe, enjoy your stay! I came from ios and haven't looked back.
    10-18-2011 02:13 AM
  19. mdelacoma's Avatar
    Thanks, Bert

    However, I'm not so sure I like WP. I'm trying to give it a fair opportunity. But it's just so bass ackwards when it comes to navigating. Mango's multitasking is lame. I can never figure out whether to press the notification as it comes up or hold the back arrow to open all my pages. Sometimes I have multiple messaging pages open. Then I have to press the back arrow a bunch of times. I'll have an email page open then receive an email and it's the same deal. Just can't get used to it.

    And what's up with the music staying open but paused? Why can't I just get rid of it when I'm not using it? I hear that it's not using battery while in the background, but I don't care. If I'm not using it, I don't want to see it on my screen.

    Why does the url bar always appear on a web page at the bottom? I don't want it there taking up screen space.

    In the last couple days I've begun wondering how I would feel if I sold my Focus and bought a Pre 3 off Ebay

    I really like this Samsung phone, but I really love WebOS. What to do?
    Last edited by PossumDel; 10-19-2011 at 10:14 PM.
    10-19-2011 09:10 PM
  20. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    Sell the Focus and get the Pre 3. Not a hard choice. I, myself find WebOS the most overrated OS ever. But to each their own. thanks for trying WP7 OS.
    Thanks, Bert

    However, I'm not so sure I like WP. I'm trying to give it a fair opportunity. But it's just so bass ackwards when it comes to navigating. Mango's multitasking is lame. I can never figure out whether to press the notification as it comes up or hold the back arrow to open all my pages. Sometimes I have multiple messaging pages open. Then I have press the back arrow a bunch of times. I'll have an email page open then receive an email and it's the same deal. Just can't get used to it.

    And what's up with the music staying open but paused? Why can't I just get rid of it when I'm not using it? I hear that it's not using battery while in the background, but I don't care. If I'm not using it, I don't want to see it on my screen.

    Why does the url bar always appear on a web page at the bottom? I don't want it there taking up screen space.

    In the last couple days I've begun wondering how I would feel if I sold my Focus and bought a Pre 3 off Ebay

    I really like this Samsung phone, but I really love WebOS. What to do?
    10-19-2011 09:15 PM
  21. jimski's Avatar
    Enjoy your Pre. See you back here in a few months (or maybe weeks).

    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
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    10-19-2011 10:43 PM
  22. mdelacoma's Avatar
    Enjoy your Pre. See you back here in a few months (or maybe weeks).

    Sent from my HTC Surround using Board Express
    No need to be rude. I haven't bought a Pre 3 yet. I'm most likely not using Mango in the most efficient way. If I can get used to it, make it more functional, I will not buy a Pre 3. Like I said, I am trying to give it a fair opportunity. WP will be around for a while. While my Pre 3, if purchased, would be without support. I would prefer to stay with WP. Just gotta get it figured out. Right now I'm frustrated. But not giving up. If anybody has any tips or helpful advice to more efficiently navigate Mango's multitasking, that would most appreciated.

    One thing I have to mention is the on screen keyboard. I have always used a physical keyboard and was worried about the switch. I had played with other phones (iPhone, Android) in the past and was horrible on the damned things. But the autocorrect on this phone is outstanding. I don't even worry about missing letters. It fills every word in as if it knows exactly what I want to say. iOS and Android are not even close. I still prefer the tactile feel of a physical keyboard, but the on screen keyboard on this Focus isn't very far behind. Well done.
    10-19-2011 11:01 PM
  23. J4rrod's Avatar
    Thanks, Bert

    However, I'm not so sure I like WP. I'm trying to give it a fair opportunity. But it's just so bass ackwards when it comes to navigating. Mango's multitasking is lame. I can never figure out whether to press the notification as it comes up or hold the back arrow to open all my pages. Sometimes I have multiple messaging pages open. Then I have to press the back arrow a bunch of times. I'll have an email page open then receive an email and it's the same deal. Just can't get used to it.

    And what's up with the music staying open but paused? Why can't I just get rid of it when I'm not using it? I hear that it's not using battery while in the background, but I don't care. If I'm not using it, I don't want to see it on my screen.

    Why does the url bar always appear on a web page at the bottom? I don't want it there taking up screen space.

    In the last couple days I've begun wondering how I would feel if I sold my Focus and bought a Pre 3 off Ebay

    I really like this Samsung phone, but I really love WebOS. What to do?
    So where would you prefer the URL bar?
    10-19-2011 11:22 PM
  24. dlcpa's Avatar
    I am not sure I understand what Zune and Skydrive is. I assumed that you could connect your WP phone to your laptop or desktop and it would appear in Windows Explorer as a DRIVE where you could transfer files. Is that not true?
    10-20-2011 11:04 AM
  25. dlcpa's Avatar
    duplicate
    10-20-2011 11:15 AM
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