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  1. oberry's Avatar
    Okay, so I'm pretty much there but I do have some concerns.

    SECURITY - My biggest issue when trying out Android was feeling as though every app posed a huge risk to my data. Constant alerts whenever I installed things, and numerous posts on tech blogs about Android's lousy track record. I know Apple's strict policy on app submissions annoys people, but it's comforting knowing I'm safe. How do Windows Phones compare to all of that?

    UPDATES - Again in regards to security, how often are small updates/patches released?

    APPS - I don't need an app for groovy mustaches or making fart noises, but I would like to have a half decent selection. What's the Windows app store like? I've heard mixed reviews. Many unique apps? How about big name ones?

    Anything else I should know? Any of you ex-iPhone people miss something particular about your old device?

    Thanks!
    10-29-2011 10:59 PM
  2. HeyCori's Avatar
    Okay, so I'm pretty much there but I do have some concerns.

    SECURITY - My biggest issue when trying out Android was feeling as though every app posed a huge risk to my data. Constant alerts whenever I installed things, and numerous posts on tech blogs about Android's lousy track record. I know Apple's strict policy on app submissions annoys people, but it's comforting knowing I'm safe. How do Windows Phones compare to all of that?
    Apps run in a sandbox and do not get access to your file system.

    Windows Phone 7 Security Implications

    UPDATES - Again in regards to security, how often are small updates/patches released?
    Two solid updates in less than one year, so pretty good. However patches aren't as frequent as many people would like, or worse, a carrier holds back a patch for unknown reasons (like AT&T holding back the security patch). Fortunately the things that need to be patched also don't severely hamper using your phone. Now the driver debacle with the Dell Venue Pro is a totally different story.

    A big plus is that (unlike other devices) ALL Windows Phones get the latest update. Not all devices get updated at the same time. In fact, I think some kinks are still being worked out so the Samsung Focus v1.4 can get Mango. However, rest assured that whatever WP7 you have it will get the latest update.

    APPS - I don't need an app for groovy mustaches or making fart noises, but I would like to have a half decent selection. What's the Windows app store like? I've heard mixed reviews. Many unique apps? How about big name ones?
    WP7 has 35 thousand apps.
    The competition has over 400 thousand.

    There are some good apps on WP7 but there's always going to be <insert app> that's missing. At least for the time being.

    Anything else I should know? Any of you ex-iPhone people miss something particular about your old device?

    Thanks!
    New devices are rolling out Nov. 6th for AT&T! The Titan and Focus S are both beasts! Personally I'm waiting to see what Nokia brings to America. IMO, their services/apps greatly outpace the competition.
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    10-29-2011 11:16 PM
  3. oberry's Avatar
    Thanks, Dash! All of that is very reassuring. I have my heart set on the Focus S. I'm eligible for an early upgrade November 21st!
    10-29-2011 11:24 PM
  4. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Okay, so I'm pretty much there but I do have some concerns.

    SECURITY - My biggest issue when trying out Android was feeling as though every app posed a huge risk to my data. Constant alerts whenever I installed things, and numerous posts on tech blogs about Android's lousy track record. I know Apple's strict policy on app submissions annoys people, but it's comforting knowing I'm safe. How do Windows Phones compare to all of that?
    WP7 is soooo much more secure than Android. Apps run in a sandbox, you can remote locate, lock, or wipe your device from your Windows Live account.

    UPDATES - Again in regards to security, how often are small updates/patches released?
    They seem to be released when they are needed. There has been only one patch that was strictly because of security, but there haven't been many security holes found in Windows Phone 7 either. Certainly none the caliber of what Android has to deal with.

    APPS - I don't need an app for groovy mustaches or making fart noises, but I would like to have a half decent selection. What's the Windows app store like? I've heard mixed reviews. Many unique apps? How about big name ones?
    I feel the selection is solid. Do we have as many apps as iOS? No. Do we have most of the big name ones that people want and a decent selection of quality exclusive apps? Yes. There are very few apps that people come and ask "Is app XYZ or an equally quality substitute on WP7?" and the answer is no. There is almost always the app they are asking for or one that fills the gap. You can browse the whole app catalouge for yourself here: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/marketplace
    If there is a specific app you are wondering about and can't find, let us know and we may have suggestions.

    Anything else I should know? Any of you ex-iPhone people miss something particular about your old device?

    Thanks!
    I'm not technically an ex-iPhone user, but I am an iPad user. I miss having a forward button in the browser, but its not that big of a deal, just go to the "Recent" tab. I miss some of the more specialized apps too. For example, I needed a SPL meter to calibrate my new home theater system (a real component set, not a Home Theater in a Box), and I checked my phone and there were like 3 choices, all with less than stellar reviews and all costing $0.99. Went to the iPad and was able to get a "good enough" free one to get the job done to my satisfaction (though it did struggle with the subwoofer, but I suspect the iPad's mic is to blame). For me, what it boils down to is that iOS offers the best tablet experience right now, so I have an iPad, but Windows Phone 7 offers the best phone experience (for me) so I have an HD7.
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    10-29-2011 11:36 PM
  5. oberry's Avatar
    Interesting points jdevenberg. From what I hear, the iPad's days are numbered once Windows 8 tablets take hold... ;-)

    I have an iPad too. And the way I see it, if I desperately miss something on iOS, I can always pick up an iPod Touch.

    I'm really looking forward to having a new system to work with. iOS is solid, but I am so bored of it.
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    10-29-2011 11:46 PM
  6. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Interesting points jdevenberg. From what I hear, the iPad's days are numbered once Windows 8 tablets take hold... ;-)

    I have an iPad too. And the way I see it, if I desperately miss something on iOS, I can always pick up an iPod Touch.

    I'm really looking forward to having a new system to work with. iOS is solid, but I am so bored of it.
    I think that WP7 is a much better looking OS than iOS (or Android). iOS is boring looking. The iPad is my wife's, I will probably buy a Windows 8 tablet for myself. I use a MacBook right now, because I prefer OS X to Windows 7, but the Metro of Windows 8 could very well be enough to bring me back. I would especially like if the Windows 8 tablets were able to act as a USB Host so you could plug other thing into it, such as a phone or flash drive or SD Card reader.
    10-29-2011 11:52 PM
  7. desmonium's Avatar
    Interesting points jdevenberg. From what I hear, the iPad's days are numbered once Windows 8 tablets take hold... ;-)

    I have an iPad too. And the way I see it, if I desperately miss something on iOS, I can always pick up an iPod Touch.

    I'm really looking forward to having a new system to work with. iOS is solid, but I am so bored of it.
    Try ubuntu =D
    10-29-2011 11:57 PM
  8. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Try ubuntu =D
    Ubuntu is great! I used to use it as my main OS, but there were a few programs I needed that wouldn't run on it, so I was forced to OS X or Windows.
    10-30-2011 12:00 AM
  9. desmonium's Avatar
    Ubuntu is great! I used to use it as my main OS, but there were a few programs I needed that wouldn't run on it, so I was forced to OS X or Windows.
    Unfortunately/Fortunately I got to stick with Windows for most of my everyday work. Ubuntu is really just for fun, or for coding.

    Can't get used to OS X, even the mouse feels different than in Windows...
    10-30-2011 12:04 AM
  10. oberry's Avatar
    Try ubuntu =D
    Hehe my computer OS isn't up for debate. I'm very happy with my OS X/Windows 7 setup. ;-)
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    10-30-2011 12:10 AM
  11. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Unfortunately/Fortunately I got to stick with Windows for most of my everyday work. Ubuntu is really just for fun, or for coding.

    Can't get used to OS X, even the mouse feels different than in Windows...
    I couldn't get used to OS X either until I jumped in head first. I was going to buy a new windows laptop, but my wife's basically unused Windows 7 desktop (a nice, fairly expensive unit, not a budget box) has....quirks.... that I didn't want to deal with, so I bought a used '09 MacBook for $550 on ebay
    10-30-2011 01:45 AM
  12. desmonium's Avatar
    I couldn't get used to OS X either until I jumped in head first. I was going to buy a new windows laptop, but my wife's basically unused Windows 7 desktop (a nice, fairly expensive unit, not a budget box) has....quirks.... that I didn't want to deal with, so I bought a used '09 MacBook for $550 on ebay
    Quirks? Hardware-wise?
    10-30-2011 01:48 AM
  13. HeyCori's Avatar
    Here's a nice comparison vid if you want to see how it stacks up against iOS5

    10-30-2011 07:55 AM
  14. power5's Avatar
    I have a 3g on iOS 4.2. My phone has been getting slower since I left iOS 3. Also no way to go back which sucks.

    I am tired of the grid of app icons and want something fresh. That is he main thing drawing me to wp7. I am not a power user. Basically use my phone as a phone and internet device. Some navigation also. In these aspects I have no need for apple. I also use facebook so having it all in the same place will be nice.
    10-30-2011 09:52 AM
  15. jdevenberg's Avatar
    Quirks? Hardware-wise?
    random OS freezes mostly. And the box has 6 gigs of ram and a decent dual core processor (2.2 GHz I believe) and almost nothingn installed on it.
    10-30-2011 11:57 AM
  16. desmonium's Avatar
    random OS freezes mostly. And the box has 6 gigs of ram and a decent dual core processor (2.2 GHz I believe) and almost nothingn installed on it.
    That surprised me as it's Win7 instead of WinVista.
    10-30-2011 12:26 PM
  17. baseballbert's Avatar
    Ex iPhone 3G, 3GS and 4 user here. Made the switch a few months back because I was sick of Apple telling me umpteen times when the iPhone 5 was coming out. And then they hornswaggled everyone with the 4S.

    At any rate, I love WP. It has a great UI, Metro is awesome and I love the way the phone works. App store is on the rise, and the social integration is killer. Make the jump, you will love it!
    10-30-2011 03:06 PM
  18. oberry's Avatar
    Here's a nice comparison vid if you want to see how it stacks up against iOS5

    Thanks for that! I'm not sure it had a positive effect on me, but the more I know the better. The social integration is overkill imo, but maybe that's something I can turn off to an extent. Apps being more expensive isn't something I was expecting either. Hmmm...
    10-30-2011 03:15 PM
  19. oberry's Avatar
    random OS freezes mostly. And the box has 6 gigs of ram and a decent dual core processor (2.2 GHz I believe) and almost nothingn installed on it.
    You shouldn't be having that kind of issue with a new system. Make sure you have all the Windows updates installed, and run Glary Utilities (download here Glary Utilities - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com).
    10-30-2011 03:17 PM
  20. oberry's Avatar
    Ex iPhone 3G, 3GS and 4 user here. Made the switch a few months back because I was sick of Apple telling me umpteen times when the iPhone 5 was coming out. And then they hornswaggled everyone with the 4S.

    At any rate, I love WP. It has a great UI, Metro is awesome and I love the way the phone works. App store is on the rise, and the social integration is killer. Make the jump, you will love it!
    Totally agree with you about the hornswaggling... It's comforting to see a happy convert.
    10-30-2011 03:18 PM
  21. ryude's Avatar
    Just make sure that however the phone is when you first get it makes you happy, DON'T EXPECT THINGS TO GET BETTER!
    10-30-2011 03:20 PM
  22. Big Supes's Avatar
    Just make sure that however the phone is when you first get it makes you happy, DON'T EXPECT THINGS TO GET BETTER!
    Speak for yourself! My love for my WP keeps growing and growing!
    10-30-2011 03:30 PM
  23. power5's Avatar
    Apple did no hornswaggling. The apple fanboys took little tiny snippets of information from uncredible sources and blew it up into something epic, like apple peeps always seem to do. The rumor sites kept the ball rolling by posting a new rumor article every day. Apple never said what the new phone was going to be called or when it would launch. That was all the rumor mill talk. The only rumor I was hoping to be correct was a new form factor with a slightly larger screen. That was what let me down. The hardware is a huge step above the IP4. I could have stuck it out with apple and itunes if they would have given me at least a 4" screen.
    10-30-2011 03:37 PM
  24. oberry's Avatar
    Apple did no hornswaggling. The apple fanboys took little tiny snippets of information from uncredible sources and blew it up into something epic, like apple peeps always seem to do. The rumor sites kept the ball rolling by posting a new rumor article every day. Apple never said what the new phone was going to be called or when it would launch. That was all the rumor mill talk. The only rumor I was hoping to be correct was a new form factor with a slightly larger screen. That was what let me down. The hardware is a huge step above the IP4. I could have stuck it out with apple and itunes if they would have given me at least a 4" screen.
    Yes and no. I know first-hand that many of the rumors come from Cupertino itself. Not to say they have permission to speak on Apple's behalf, or that what they are saying is more than speculation - but it's still coming from Apple HQ. I do agree about the form factor being the biggest disappointment. I had been using iOS 5 since day one of it's beta form so it didn't exactly amaze me when they officially announced it.
    10-30-2011 04:48 PM
  25. baseballbert's Avatar
    And with that, the tribe has spoken.

    He once made a blackberry pie out Mangos. Chickens say "tastes like Mango" when they bite into apples, out of respect. He conquered an entire army of androids with a single Mango. He's the most interesting cell phone user alive. "I dont always use smartphones, but when I do, I use WP. Stay Metro my friends."
    10-30-2011 05:04 PM
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