11-26-2011 05:12 AM
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  1. theefman's Avatar
    Whoaw. *bows respectfully* You, sir, deserve it! :D
    Thank you, young sir. :) On a related note, I dropped my DVP on the way into work today and the screen stopped working so I've been WP7-less all day! Not fun, but I've got a spare at home so just need to swap my SIM while I decide if its worth getting the broken one repaired. Brings home painfully the lack of backup on WP7, going to lose my texts and my progress in Fusion: Sentient (was getting my butt kicked anyway, so maybe a new start will help!)

    Unfortunately there is no ignore feature on this forum.
    There is, just click a users name, then select profile, then user lists and choose ignore list. (Dont put me on it!) :)
    dtboos likes this.
    11-18-2011 03:17 PM
  2. cckgz4's Avatar
    He's not negative, you guys just hate anyone who says anything that isn't completely glorifying the windows phone. This community is one of the reasons why I am dying to get away from windows phone, you are completely happy with a subpar OS and that doesn't bode well with how MS will choose to update it.
    Skeedaddle then
    11-18-2011 09:20 PM
  3. N8ter's Avatar
    This would be nice, I agree. But, having said that, it wouldn't make my day anymore productive.

    *** It's not just about YOU.

    BT file transfer works just fine for me and specific apps don't really qualify as a knock on the OS against iOS and droid.

    *** Apps can swap platform choice. If someone needs Skype for work do you think they're going to choose a Windows Phone that doesn't have a Skype app, when Symbian, Blackberry, iOS, and Android all have it?

    Definition is irrelevant. It's said 'in response' to claims that it needed it.

    *** Wut?

    And this is in relation to what exactly?

    *** In relation to the template responses from people who assume that because something is OKAY for THEM, than it is OKAY in GENERAL. Look at your first response in this quote for an example of this...


    Well, you've already said it's sub-par, yourself, to which you're having a hard time substantiating.

    *** Marketshare and Sales numbers speak for themselves.

    That would be merely an opinion. What I said is recognised throughout the industry. But, hey, if you can't deal with that fact and wish to play 'semantics', that's fine. Weak gravy.


    *** Again, Wut? Lol.

    Coming from someone who in their last breath said: "People with a clue know there's more to processor quality than raw **** speed."

    Suuurre.

    *** The G2 was released a year and a half ago with that single core underclocked 800 Mhz processor. The same SoC type that's in the "new WP7 Mango devices" at the end of 2011. Didn't technology move on since then?

    Yes, and I also hear the price of fish has gone up. El oh el.

    FFS. *sigh*
    *sigh* indeed.

    Skeedaddle then
    Lol.
    11-22-2011 10:07 PM
  4. sin_nombre773's Avatar
    *sigh* indeed.



    Lol.
    is that all u have to say when ur proven wrong? Pathetic.
    Big Supes likes this.
    11-23-2011 05:57 AM
  5. Forgewizard's Avatar
    Trying to ignore the deterioration of the thread and get back on track.....
    WHile I do think that the Mango Version of WP 7 is awesome and it is a wonderfully smooth operating OS on a single core processor that allows me to use my phone all day long and deep into the night without needing an extended battery or a power outlet lifeline; something that would make it handier would be an active way to move from the information icons on the lock screen to the actual notices they represent.

    I like knowing how many emails I've received from each account - but seems like it would be really great if I could say, tap twice on an icon and then be taken directly to that email app. Currently the only thing that happens is the lock screen bounces.

    Maybe if not a double tap then maybe a "memory slide" so that I'd hold the icon of the email app I wanted to go to then slide the lock screen. The OS would then take me to that email app. Similarly if I wanted to quickly edit a calendar item being displayed I could tap and slide from the calendar notice on the lock screen.

    Wouldn't THAT be cool?
    11-25-2011 03:44 AM
  6. Big Supes's Avatar
    I like knowing how many emails I've received from each account
    Yes, it's nice to see how many emails are in each account. :)

    but seems like it would be really great if I could say, tap twice on an icon and then be taken directly to that email app. Currently the only thing that happens is the lock screen bounces.

    Maybe if not a double tap then maybe a "memory slide" so that I'd hold the icon of the email app I wanted to go to then slide the lock screen. The OS would then take me to that email app. Similarly if I wanted to quickly edit a calendar item being displayed I could tap and slide from the calendar notice on the lock screen.

    Wouldn't THAT be cool?
    That could definitely work. I just get a bit apprehensive about flaky lock screens. When my phone is locked, I like the confidence that it isn't ringing someone in my pocket.
    11-25-2011 05:36 AM
  7. Pronk's Avatar
    How about a lockscreen target? If you want to go straight to an app, you press and hold the notification icon and drag it to a relatively small target spot that only appears when you start holding and moving - that launches whatever app the icon represented, and after you're done backs you out to the lockscreen again. As long as the target isn't too big, it should prevent any accidental launches.

    OR

    Flick lockscreen up fully - unlock as usual.
    Flick lockscreen down fully - advanced notifications showing email headers, who called, who messaged you etc., and from these you can launch the app if you need to, or go back to the lockscreen if it isn't urgent. Ties in with the whole "one quick look and you're done" idea.
    11-25-2011 06:15 AM
  8. Big Supes's Avatar
    If the target area was private (chosen by the user), I think the first one is a fantastic idea.

    Option 2 doesn't really work as I can imagine nosey partners checking your email/call/SMS record whilst you're out of the room. . .

    . . . and, no... I'm not paranoid. :P
    11-25-2011 11:15 AM
  9. based_graham's Avatar
    He's not negative, you guys just hate anyone who says anything that isn't completely glorifying the windows phone. This community is one of the reasons why I am dying to get away from windows phone, you are completely happy with a subpar OS and that doesn't bode well with how MS will choose to update it.
    This operating system is nothing but sub-par. Just enjoy the phone new apps are coming out everyday by the time you know it Tango is released etc.

    In regards to features it goes both ways iOS and ICS want features thats in WP7 and WP7 wants features that are in iOS and ICS. If you combine all 3 you will have the perfect phone but it doesn't work that way. Joe B is a talented dude and dont underestimate Microsoft. I underestimated them when Vista came out and the OG Xbox and look how that turned around.
    11-25-2011 02:09 PM
  10. N8ter's Avatar
    This operating system is nothing but sub-par. Just enjoy the phone new apps are coming out everyday by the time you know it Tango is released etc.

    In regards to features it goes both ways iOS and ICS want features thats in WP7 and WP7 wants features that are in iOS and ICS. If you combine all 3 you will have the perfect phone but it doesn't work that way. Joe B is a talented dude and dont underestimate Microsoft. I underestimated them when Vista came out and the OG Xbox and look how that turned around.
    We were stuck with Vista for 2+ years, but the desktop and console markets are completely different, so it's not comparable. Sony made a huge blunder releasing the PS3 late and not capitalizing on the XBox 360's notorious lack of reliability (RRODs galore) by launching price-competitive with Microsoft. Microsoft has always been dominant on the desktop, and since they are basically the Android++ of Desktop Operating systems with ridiculously good development tools support and a completely end-to-end solution (Enterprise, SMB, Consumer) it is no suprise that they could absorb Vista. Most Windows users don't upgrade until they get a new computer so many of them simply didn't care, since they got XP computers, never got the free upgrade, and didn't upgrade until after Windows 7 was released, anyways.

    If top OEMs like Adobe or even Microsoft themselves had dropped support for XP on Vista release, I think it would have been a bigger problem. Windows's Back and Forward compatibility gives Microsoft a huge edge over something like Linux and cheaper OEM Windows machines gives them an edge among general consumers over Apple. Business use doesn't need any explanation, there...

    There's a reason why Desktop Windows and XB360 either remained or became dominant despite widely publicized blunders (Vista, RRODs), while Windows Mobile floundered to nothingness.

    Different markets are different.

    Microsoft didn't seem to get it back then IRT Mobile (Windows Mobile, XP/Vista/7 on Tablets/Slates/Touchbooks without a Touch-Friendly UI, AOI touchscreen PCs, etc.), but I think they're getting it now. Different markets require fundamentally different approaches. Before, th ey were approaching the Mobile Market as if it was the Desktop Market on a different form factor (i.e. Desktop to Laptop is not the same as Dekstop to Tablet/Smartphone). That doesn't work too well, obviously.
    11-25-2011 05:53 PM
  11. based_graham's Avatar
    We were stuck with Vista for 2+ years, but the desktop and console markets are completely different, so it's not comparable. Sony made a huge blunder releasing the PS3 late and not capitalizing on the XBox 360's notorious lack of reliability (RRODs galore) by launching price-competitive with Microsoft. Microsoft has always been dominant on the desktop, and since they are basically the Android++ of Desktop Operating systems with ridiculously good development tools support and a completely end-to-end solution (Enterprise, SMB, Consumer) it is no suprise that they could absorb Vista. Most Windows users don't upgrade until they get a new computer so many of them simply didn't care, since they got XP computers, never got the free upgrade, and didn't upgrade until after Windows 7 was released, anyways.

    If top OEMs like Adobe or even Microsoft themselves had dropped support for XP on Vista release, I think it would have been a bigger problem. Windows's Back and Forward compatibility gives Microsoft a huge edge over something like Linux and cheaper OEM Windows machines gives them an edge among general consumers over Apple. Business use doesn't need any explanation, there...

    There's a reason why Desktop Windows and XB360 either remained or became dominant despite widely publicized blunders (Vista, RRODs), while Windows Mobile floundered to nothingness.

    Different markets are different.

    Microsoft didn't seem to get it back then IRT Mobile (Windows Mobile, XP/Vista/7 on Tablets/Slates/Touchbooks without a Touch-Friendly UI, AOI touchscreen PCs, etc.), but I think they're getting it now. Different markets require fundamentally different approaches. Before, th ey were approaching the Mobile Market as if it was the Desktop Market on a different form factor (i.e. Desktop to Laptop is not the same as Dekstop to Tablet/Smartphone). That doesn't work too well, obviously.
    Agreed but my point is when Microsoft has a great idea they stick with it and change the game just like what they did with Xbox they introduced how an online community affects gaming etc and just like how their doing it with phones with the focus of people rather than turning a phone into a pocket PC which they tried Win Mo 6/6.5.

    I am only assuming that iOS and Android will start integrating more social networks into their OS as a result of this . Android already started with some features on ICS lets see what iOS has to offer.
    11-25-2011 06:49 PM
  12. Big Supes's Avatar
    .... bring on the lawsuits!
    11-26-2011 05:12 AM
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