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  1. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    And so far it's not on WP. Hope it stays that way.



    What do you think ?

    It seems absolutely horrendous that they can see what you're doing and writing in this spy software.

    CarrierIQ States they do not record keystrokes. (Clearly they do in the above video)



    Have they been rumbled ?
    Last edited by TheWeeBear; 12-01-2011 at 05:39 AM.
    12-01-2011 05:30 AM
  2. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Masked you wonder why is AT&T sending out surveys to all the new WP users. Could it be because they can't review your data the only way they can know how much you use and like your phone is to conduct a survey? Seams like that's something they don't need to do on Andy and IOs because they can just review the data to see if you like you phone and how much you use it
    12-01-2011 05:39 AM
  3. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Who knows Big D5, that software is a total privacy invasion in my eyes if it's doing what it seems to be in that video.
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    12-01-2011 05:43 AM
  4. Big Supes's Avatar
    OMG. That is shocking! I mean, that's taking the p!ss even by Google's standards!
    12-01-2011 05:59 AM
  5. Big Supes's Avatar
    Is this the work of the carriers? I can't imagine UK laws would allow such an invasion of privacy...
    12-01-2011 06:01 AM
  6. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Well Nokia have now confirmed in a tweet they do not use CarrierIQ. That's good news.
    12-01-2011 06:03 AM
  7. Pronk's Avatar
    Masked you wonder why is AT&T sending out surveys to all the new WP users. Could it be because they can't review your data the only way they can know how much you use and like your phone is to conduct a survey? Seams like that's something they don't need to do on Andy and IOs because they can just review the data to see if you like you phone and how much you use it
    Just Android. It's not on iOS either (or at least not in the same sense that it's carrier's keeping tabs on everything you do: Carrier IQ references discovered in Apple's iOS | The Verge)
    12-01-2011 06:05 AM
  8. Big Supes's Avatar
    12-01-2011 06:13 AM
  9. Dave Blake's Avatar
    12-01-2011 06:13 AM
  10. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Clearly a huge storm brewing. Verizon have now denied using it.

    Verizon denies Carrier IQ is on any of its phones | The Verge

    I think the carriers are getting a little worried now LOL
    12-01-2011 06:20 AM
  11. Pronk's Avatar
    The sad thing is, WP7 is exempt not because it's insanely secure or anything like that but because the carriers can't be arsed to monitor it.
    12-01-2011 06:58 AM
  12. aubreyq's Avatar
    It's concerning because of the way Carrier IQ first reacted, by threatening litigation, etc. They got caught and went on the defensive, so that immediately makes you wonder why they were being so secretive about it. They later apologized to the guy who made the discovery but the cat was already out of the bag. Like WeeBear stated, there is a huge storm brewing on this one.
    12-01-2011 07:39 AM
  13. fisci's Avatar
    I'm shocked that I read a lot of people that are alright with this.

    Does no one see what this kind of breach of our personal freedom leads to?
    12-01-2011 07:52 AM
  14. Big Supes's Avatar
    ^ That's surprising considering the hammering MS got from location data being collected from WP camera devices. . .

    . . . and that is like a fart on a windy day compared to this humongous turd.
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    12-01-2011 07:58 AM
  15. Pronk's Avatar
    I'm shocked that I read a lot of people that are alright with this.

    Does no one see what this kind of breach of our personal freedom leads to?
    Yeah, but Android is open isn't it, so that makes everything alright - piracy, market fragmentation, malware apps, uninstallable bloatware, locked down bootloaders, massive invasion of privacy. All OK, because it's "open" ;)
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    12-01-2011 09:49 AM
  16. jeremyshaw's Avatar
    Its only open to users so inclined, and lucky enough to be able to unlock their bootloader. Thigh there should be a way around that, iirc.

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    12-01-2011 09:57 AM
  17. TaliZorah's Avatar
    I think we all can be happy that we have WP7 devices. It's times like these that I am glad I am part of the "nitch" group of people with the smaller fanbase :)

    I <3 you guys!
    Last edited by TaliZorah; 12-01-2011 at 10:40 AM.
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    12-01-2011 10:33 AM
  18. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    12-01-2011 11:02 AM
  19. Big Supes's Avatar
    They've all got slopey shoulders now! :D
    12-01-2011 11:07 AM
  20. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    Yes they do Big Supes. :D
    12-01-2011 11:08 AM
  21. Big Supes's Avatar
    General question... regarding Windows Phones, who would have the final say whether or not a carriers are allowed to install CIQ's? Microsoft?
    12-01-2011 11:19 AM
  22. thed's Avatar
    General question... regarding Windows Phones, who would have the final say whether or not a carriers are allowed to install CIQ's? Microsoft?
    I would think MS would have to approve as well as enable it. They can hack anything into Android, but WP is closed so MS would have to bake it into the OS or give them a backdoor into the OS to make it work.
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    12-01-2011 11:50 AM
  23. aubreyq's Avatar
    I would think MS would have to approve as well as enable it. They can hack anything into Android, but WP is closed so MS would have to bake it into the OS or give them a backdoor into the OS to make it work.
    Sounds about right.
    12-01-2011 11:50 AM
  24. Big Supes's Avatar
    I would think MS would have to approve as well as enable it. They can hack anything into Android, but WP is closed so MS would have to bake it into the OS or give them a backdoor into the OS to make it work.
    This is what I was thinking, which leads me to my next question... how the **** did they manage to get it on the iPhone?
    12-01-2011 11:54 AM
  25. fisci's Avatar
    This is what I was thinking, which leads me to my next question... how the **** did they manage to get it on the iPhone?
    apple put it on ios themselves..

    I'm surprised they aren't selling it as a feature yet

    "we'll teach you how to hold your phone, then boost your phones IQ with carrier IQ!"
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    12-01-2011 12:35 PM
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