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  1. ayopancheezy's Avatar
    i can't say i was an Apple fanboy, but i enjoyed using both their iPod touch and iPhone and i owned both products up till the 3GS. i was tired of it always crashing and then having to re-flash the firmware over or going back to the recovery process.

    i switched over to android for near a year or so and damn, i enjoyed that OS even more. it was so much easier on my eyes and nearly every app i loved on the iOS was in the Android Market or something of that equivalent was there also. I kept flashing custom roms and eventually i got bored of this OS also. I was always busy making my phone work for me rather enjoy using it.

    i THEN flashed WP7 on my HD2 and i was sold. Everything was smooth, everything was easy on my eyes, and...everything was just smooth. All the apps were available on the stock rom that i've always wanted such as my social networks into 1 little application/tile and that what always pissed me off about android and iOS. The UI is minimal and amazing regardless. At the end of the day, i am GLAD to say that i made the switch to WP7.
    12-20-2011 07:00 PM
  2. jdd77's Avatar
    i can't say i was an Apple fanboy, but i enjoyed using both their iPod touch and iPhone and i owned both products up till the 3GS. i was tired of it always crashing and then having to re-flash the firmware over or going back to the recovery process.

    i switched over to android for near a year or so and damn, i enjoyed that OS even more. it was so much easier on my eyes and nearly every app i loved on the iOS was in the Android Market or something of that equivalent was there also. I kept flashing custom roms and eventually i got bored of this OS also. I was always busy making my phone work for me rather enjoy using it.

    i THEN flashed WP7 on my HD2 and i was sold. Everything was smooth, everything was easy on my eyes, and...everything was just smooth. All the apps were available on the stock rom that i've always wanted such as my social networks into 1 little application/tile and that what always pissed me off about android and iOS. The UI is minimal and amazing regardless. At the end of the day, i am GLAD to say that i made the switch to WP7.
    ....until you get bored.
    12-20-2011 08:10 PM
  3. jdd77's Avatar
    I actually have to disagree with a lot of the things you said here:

    Microsoft didn't purposely make an OS that you are going to love or hate, people react that way to the os because its so different and they did this to make it competitive. For example, android users will hate me for saying this, but essentially I feel that android is a crappier version of ios. I feel that it did a couple of cool innovative things like linking with google product online, like calendar and such, notifications, etc. save for widgets, you cant say that android is very different from ios. If M$ made an os that was more or less similar to android and ios, than it would be just another os, there would be almost nothing to differentiate it from the other OSes, which imo, my favorite part of wp7 is that it is so different from the other OSes. that is also why i like WebOS back in the day because it too was also very different and innovative for its time, palm just couldn't make good hardware.

    you are right in one aspect, one of the major weaknesses of wp7 is its an immature os, it just doesn't have the app catalog that android or iOS does, but I think the overall quality of the apps are far superior to android and some even beat their iOS counterparts. The main reason I say this is because one thing m$ did was that they forced apps to kind of use the hub layout, where you have a list of things or a grid that scrolls and you swipe to the right or left to get to different options, like in the apps hub, or people hub, or xbox, etc. But the great thing about this is that the apps conform to the OS and make the integration seem more unified, for example the wikipedia app has the search as the first section, swipe to the right and you get your recently searched items, and swipe to right again and you get options, similar to how all of the other parts of the phone is layed out. For the most part, android and iOS do not do this, so most apps have a big variation in their ui design, which makes some apps have a steeper learning curve because they are layed out very differently.

    you also talk about how xbox only helps if you have an xbox and zune is also a microsoft product, but google and apple are no different. Of course they use their current products for leverage for selling their new products, especially look no further for apple for this. If you use itunes, which I don't, then its natural you are probably going to want an iphone which works with itunes and ipad which does so as well. also it works better with and imac or macbook pro and of course apple's icloud, another product they sell. Google does the same thing with gmail, calendar, docs, etc. So you can say that xbox integration doesn't help somebody that doesn't have an xbox, but apple's ipod program and icloud also have no use to me because I don't use other apple products either.

    You are right that wp7 does have less customization but lets look at android, do you actually think that the customization android gives you actually helps make it easier to use? for example, isn't 7 homescreens on a phone way over kill? M$ only made the main start screen so you pin the things you use most to it and then you go to the app list and scroll through it for programs that are used less. It makes sense, its much easier and faster to get to what you want than having to shift through 7 homescreens and an app menu to find the program or widget you are looking for.

    Also the only reason there isn't a google hub is because its a M$ product and google probably won't make an app for their search for a product that competes with theirs, like for the same reason that M$ won't make office for iOS or android, thats their leverage to get you to buy their platform. I don't like the fact with wp7 that your default search can't be google, but bing is decent and they want you to use bing to search because its another way to get you to use a m$ product because you are buying a m$ phone.

    personally i would like to see a file browser, that would be nice, but i don't know what you are talking about with notifications, wp7 definitely pops up notifications on the screen or in tiles, thats the point of them. Also i think the 4 sides of a cube to hold more information isn't good either, your adding another level of complexity that just makes the phone harder to learn to use, which imo, is the greatest part of the os is its simplicity.
    Of course Microsoft wasn't purposely trying to make a device you either love or hate. The point I was trying to make was the metro UI is already very different from apple, android, and basically everything else..so why strip away all other familiar aspects of a smartphone (or basic phone functions in general)?
    That leaves people to really decide whether they 'love it or hate it' before making a switch for two years.

    To be competitive, take what's there and turn it into something different and innovative (metro UI), while retaining universal functionality. Microsoft gets the first part right, but without the second part..its a novelty item. lol
    Last edited by jdd77; 12-20-2011 at 11:58 PM.
    12-20-2011 11:34 PM
  4. Ridemyscooter86's Avatar
    Of course Microsoft wasn't purposely trying to make a device you either love or hate. The point I was trying to make was the metro UI is already very different from apple, android, and basically everything else..so why strip away all other familiar aspects of a smartphone (or basic phone functions in general)?
    That leaves people to really decide whether they 'love it or hate it' before making a switch for two years.

    To be competitive, take what's there and turn it into something different and innovative (metro UI), while retaining universal functionality. Microsoft gets the first part right, but without the second part..its a novelty item. lol
    I get what you are saying except not retaining universal functionality? excluding the app catalog which is limited vs the other OSes, what functional things can't the core OS of WP7 do that iOS and android can do?
    12-21-2011 12:22 AM
  5. Pronk's Avatar
    I think the real test will be when Windows 8 launches, because then the Metro UI will be everywhere. I know some people on here complain they're bored of iOS because of its look. Well pretty soon this will be a risk for MS too: A Windows 8 PC, xbox and WP7-owning person will be looking at a LOT of Metro and Metro-styled apps.

    I think some of the current restrictions on customization will have to be lifted or what's fresh and new now to someone coming over from iOS or Android will start to look stale very, very fast because it's what they see every day on multiple devices, perhaps even before they've ever picked up a WP7 phone. And hopefully Apollo will see devs get full access to the hardware too, because if anything is going to kill the format it's the fact that developers are hamstrung and can't squeeze everything out of the device. I've played Infinity Blade on an iPhone 3GS, and that's nearly 3 years old running on a 600MHz single-core processor. My Lumia has a 1.4 GHz processor and yet there's nothing games-wise that comes close on WP7 I can play on it. It's a crazy situation - why deliberately make growing the marketplace harder?
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    12-21-2011 04:38 AM
  6. iaj94z's Avatar
    I bought a WP7 phone in India. It works fine over there but then when I shifted to Qatar a few features on the phone were completely useless. The location services like local scout became a big time waste. I am a person who will have to shuttle between the middle east and India a lot,So unless WP has been completely rolled out in the middle east, I don't think any sensible person over here would consider WP. In Qatar and the UAE, iPhone and BB are so popular whereas Android does not reach up-to any level over here. I feel WP has a really good potential cos anything considerably expensive and new like the HTC Titan will completely get sold over here, even when things like installments don't actually exist. I just hope WP rolls out its complete features and Arabic language support here in the Middle East otherwise I will have to move away from WP. But I feel reluctant in doing this as it has a really cool UI when compares to Android's and iOS static pages. Also Voice-to-text features do not work over the mobile data connection and Facebook integration- People hub will not get updated over a mobile data connection.
    12-21-2011 07:06 AM
  7. jdd77's Avatar
    I get what you are saying except not retaining universal functionality? excluding the app catalog which is limited vs the other OSes, what functional things can't the core OS of WP7 do that iOS and android can do?

    The app catalog isn't the issue at all. Like any other smartphone, you can go into a market and download apps. But being a smartphone, there should be alot more room to customize and organize the user interface. Also there are very limited settings for general phone use. Wp7 almost feels like a demo version.. You get to use the metro UI and you have a list of apps, but when you delve deeper into settings, you can't do much else.
    I am not knocking this phone, just trying to state why people may not wanna convert to it.
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    12-21-2011 08:03 AM
  8. Winterfang's Avatar
    2 things.

    1-apps
    2-hot phones.
    12-21-2011 08:10 AM
  9. Major's Avatar
    First, the hardware:
    Apple makes essentially one device, and it's slick. Further, all your chargers, docks, etc are compatible with every version of the iPhone. Finally, there is a ton of variety for said accessories. Android counters with a bunch of different devices of varying specs, ranging from the crappy to the the high end. WP7, sadly, is stuck in the middle. It has a few middling devices, with not enough sales success to warrant accessory makers to go crazy with differentiating products, and too few models to bombard the masses with options.

    Then, there's the UI:
    One the one hand, iOS remains essentially unchanged from its initial iteration. It looks the same and it feels the same. It's intuitive enough, but the main draw is its ubiquity. On the other hand, its unbelievably stale. I can't believe how the UI is still the same gray-blueish color. I bet some day Apple will allow people to customize the color of the UI and people will go nuts saying its the greatest innovation. Android's UI, as everyone has pointed out, is iOS with widgets. Also, it's not well coded so it requires high end hardware to compensate. Nonetheless, you can customize the heck out of it, and people like options. WP7 is fresh, smooth, and intuitive, but it's radically different than the prevailing OSes, and offers little customization. Basically, WP7 is too scary for the masses and too simplistic for the tech geeks.

    At least on the hardware and UI sides of this, WP7 is stuck in the middle. With a decidedly last place finish in app selection and dubious marketing thusfar, it all adds up to what we have now. It appears that with Nokia entering the fray and HTC and Samsung beginning to enjoy some sales success, the hardware issue will soon be resolved. The OS update schedule is beginning to look like that of Android's, and hopefully an increase in customization options will appeal to those looking for more familiar interfacing.
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    12-21-2011 10:39 AM
  10. jfa1's Avatar
    Nokia seems to selling quite well in Europe for the most part and they are starting in India and other places as well and soon in the US The Nokia 800 and hopefully the 900 will be showcased at CES and if they can sell well leading up to Apollo and Windows 8 in June WP will get more traction and gather some needed momentum for the rest of 2012 and beyond. HTC may be shifting its focus more towards WP with their legal issues with the android patents. RIM appears to be stalling out which might be reversable or it might not.
    12-21-2011 11:47 AM
  11. Pronk's Avatar
    I would be very surprised if iOS 6 didn't have a fairly substantial refresh. Apple style is minimalist, but it does change - OSX Lion compared to a few versions back (Panther) looks much sleeker and more modern, whereas the changes to iOS have been more subtle so far. It will fit with the Apple pattern of evolution/revolution/evolution too.

    The problem with the Android refresh(es) is that half the time people don't see it because of custom launchers. Or worse, see a mish-mash of stock Android and OEM skins. iOS might need a new lick of paint, but at least it's consistent (as is WP7).
    12-21-2011 12:00 PM
  12. 1jaxstate1's Avatar
    They are going to want to make the switch. No matter what MS say or do. No matter what the marketing campaign is. If people are happy with Android, they are not going to leave it. Why would they?
    12-21-2011 01:44 PM
  13. Ridemyscooter86's Avatar
    The app catalog isn't the issue at all. Like any other smartphone, you can go into a market and download apps. But being a smartphone, there should be alot more room to customize and organize the user interface. Also there are very limited settings for general phone use. Wp7 almost feels like a demo version.. You get to use the metro UI and you have a list of apps, but when you delve deeper into settings, you can't do much else.
    I am not knocking this phone, just trying to state why people may not wanna convert to it.

    As far as the settings go, you can change many of the aspects of the phone, and what you can do is very comparable to iOS. It seems to me that you favor android because of its customization, and you are right, windows phone 7 does have limited customization, but its every bit as limited as iOS. I will say that personally I am not an apple user, I don't use OSX, but one thing I feel that apple does right is that they don't let people customize iOS very much. I mean you can arrange around your icons, you can put stuff in folders, and it definitely has the best app selection, but with the setting its not as robust as android. If there is anything I have learned about people, Its that when they get access to a lot of in depth settings, most of them somehow screw it up. I work in a computer store, and people come in all the time when they did something like, disabled the wireless card by hitting a button on the keyboard or a switch, and a lot of people come in when they hit a button and turn off the mouse pad and can't figure out how to turn the mousepad or wireless card back on. stupid stuff, you might feel that this is obvious to you, but most people in general don't want to have to always be tweaking and trying to get there phone to work, they want a phone that just works well without them having to worry about it.

    That's my main gripe with android, it is the freest OS to use, but its open source hurts it too. For example, the quality control from brand to brand greatly varies, not only that every android brand also works differently. Samsung touchwiz, HTC has sense, LG has their own, so does sony, etc. And the user experiences vary greatly from phone to phone, and in my personal experience, I don't think now that there is a single android skin that actually improves the user experience over stock android. If I were to buy and android phone today, the only phones I would even consider would be the nexus line because they are some of the only ones with stock android, or I would root the phone.

    The thing I like more about wp7 is that it doesn't matter if you get a high end phone or a low end phone, since all wp7 phones use the same single core 1.4 GHz processor, all their user experiences are exactly the same, save for the features you get with different phones (like form factor, screen size, thin-ness, etc.) You can't say that a 50$ android phone runs like a 200$ android phone.

    My other gripe with google is I feel that they have a poor sense for ui design compared to apple and M$. For example, itunes on iOS looks and feels like i tunes on the computer, which is like safari, and lion, and apple tv, and the ipad, and the iphone etc... WP7 metro is like the xbox, and soon to be windows 8, the uis on both companies are very consistent from device to device. Also when both companies change the look of things, they usually add significant improvements, google, i feel, will just change the look of things because it feels like it on a whim. I mean take the new youtube and gmail, was their any need to change it, I don't feel that it even looks more cohesive than it used to be and I don't feel they really added much functionality. When Honeycomb first came out, I had to re learn another OS that was very different the standard android: for example, how come android has four buttons on the bottom: home, back, search, options, and the notifications bar is at the top and the apps launcher is looks like a grid on the bottom.

    On honey comb, there are no hardware buttons, there is a bar at the bottom that is home, app switcher, and back buttons, search is on a bar at the top left of the screen and apps are in the corner at the top right of the screen? and the notifications bar moved to the bottom? I know they are changing this with ice cream sandwich a little, that they are removing the hardware butons at the bottom, but the apps button is still located at the bottom and the notifications are still at he top, it seems that its inconsistent with itself. I'm not saying that apple and microsoft don't have a habit of doing stuff like this too, but I feel that they are much more consistent and sensible with their decisions compared to google.
    12-21-2011 03:41 PM
  14. dorelse's Avatar
    Honestly...for me, I'm a former Treo Pro user, switched to a Pixi & Pre, and just moved to an Android (Motorola Photon).

    I had a few drivers that pushed my decision over to Android.

    1) Sprint support & engagement of WP7 seems...marginal at best. 1 phone, and not a 4G phone either. They're obviously all in on Android, and more recently the iPhone bandwagon. I can't make a 2 year purchase decision on Sprint supporting 1 phone, that's getting long in the tooth. I've been down that road with WebOS!

    2) Apps. Getting my work e-mails sent to my phone from Lotus Notes...there isn't an 'app for that' on WP7. That was a huge strike against WP7...but something I could live without if it were just this 1 issue.

    3) Closed vs. Open...I am not a hacker/modder/rooter. I have spent the better part of 2-3 years investing in Amazon Music (not the cloud...) buying DRM free music that I can play on any device I want, anywhere, anytime. I don't want to be part of Apple's closed system, and I didn't want join up with the Zune marketplace for music on a recurring monthly charge. (Yes...I know I can buy them individually and they're mine.) I simply want more options for where/when/how I get my music, movies, etc, etc.

    I just want a smartphone that works, and works well. Honestly, this was a huge plus for WP7 in my book. Android takes way too much effort to use, too many settings buried deep in the bowels of Android that I have to constantly tweak. Stock Gingerbread UI is horrible...hoping for better in ICS. Everything is just too many taps, clicks and effort to get anything meaningful done. (I love my Photon's integration kickstand though.)

    However, when I look at where I mostly live online...my family uses gmail, picasa, amazon music, Lotus e-mail for work, youtube, pandora, etc, etc...It became pretty clear that I'm most invested in the apps Google puts out. (gmail, picasa, youtube), plus I can pick from multiple handset manufacturers, sync my work email, and know that Sprint will be around supporting Android in 2 years. I can't say the same for Sprint & WP7...I hope they do, and in 16 mos. I'll take a good look at WP7 again.

    I wanted to be on WP7, but the scale's tip in Googles direction. So...for now, I run Launcher 7 on my Photon as a compromise of the hardware I want, running the UI I like the most, with an App Store that let me sync my work email's.

    So...to speak to the thread...what would it take me to switch to WP7?

    Hardware choices
    Lotus Notes Sync'ing
    Sprint showing more support/commitment
    Increasing market share over time
    Last edited by dorelse; 12-21-2011 at 04:14 PM.
    12-21-2011 04:04 PM
  15. N8ter's Avatar
    As far as the settings go, you can change many of the aspects of the phone, and what you can do is very comparable to iOS
    iOS looks like Android and Blackberry compared to WP7 as far as settings are concerned. There are probably hundreds of settings in iOS, and maybe two dozen in WP7. They aren't even close to being comparable. There are granular settings for most everything on the phone and all the app settings are aggregated into one place to boot.

    WP7 is nothing like that.

    IRT Honeycomb/ICS Software buttons. That is preferable to Hardware buttons, especially on a Tablet becuase a tablet can be used either in Portrait or Landscape orientation and with Hardware buttons it becomes ungainly to use it. Apple can get away with their one button on the iPad because it's JUST one freaking button but an Android tablet would not be cute with 3-4 buttons lopsided on the side of the device when using it in a different orientation.

    Going to Soft buttons on the phones is a marvelous decision, IMO, becuase it allows the devices to have bigger screens without having to increase the actual size of the device. Also, capacitive buttons are generally terrible (i.e. hitting back by mistake when playing a game) and it solves that issue elegantly.
    12-21-2011 04:39 PM
  16. KingCrimson's Avatar
    Ask yourself why people flocked to iPhones in the first place. Until you can, you will have any solution on how to grow Windows Phone.
    12-21-2011 05:50 PM
  17. DKDogz54's Avatar
    I know one thing for sure: if there is one group that windows phones will have a hard time attracting, it will be the medical community. As a medical student, I try to show doctors, nurses, and students how easy the phone is to use and they get wowed by how different it compared to the other OS's.

    But the conversation always heads towards this one question: Where is Epocrates or Medscape, or the other popular medical apps? Unlike most people who get mildly upset about missing crossword puzzle games or whatever, medical apps to a medical professional is pretty much a necessity. I know doctors who returned their windows phones for an android because of this.

    People argue that the medical community is small, but these are the people who will likely invest more money into the phone than the average user. Medical apps alone cost almost $100. And the turn over rate for phones here seem to be pretty quick; I see people upgrading from the iPhone 4 to the 4s, hehe.
    12-21-2011 08:11 PM
  18. kevm14's Avatar
    Going to Soft buttons on the phones is a marvelous decision, IMO, becuase it allows the devices to have bigger screens without having to increase the actual size of the device. Also, capacitive buttons are generally terrible (i.e. hitting back by mistake when playing a game) and it solves that issue elegantly.
    I don't think it does. I noticed on my Titan that I can keep scrolling down with my finger past the edge of the screen. It seems like the capacitive zone is one giant thing, so I'd argue the current buttons are almost software buttons, except their icon never changes. I think you're pressing on the same capacitive grid as the screen, which would be the same as ICS.
    12-21-2011 08:27 PM
  19. KingCrimson's Avatar
    I know one thing for sure: if there is one group that windows phones will have a hard time attracting, it will be the medical community. As a medical student, I try to show doctors, nurses, and students how easy the phone is to use and they get wowed by how different it compared to the other OS's.

    But the conversation always heads towards this one question: Where is Epocrates or Medscape, or the other popular medical apps? Unlike most people who get mildly upset about missing crossword puzzle games or whatever, medical apps to a medical professional is pretty much a necessity. I know doctors who returned their windows phones for an android because of this.

    People argue that the medical community is small, but these are the people who will likely invest more money into the phone than the average user. Medical apps alone cost almost $100. And the turn over rate for phones here seem to be pretty quick; I see people upgrading from the iPhone 4 to the 4s, hehe.
    Microsoft does own the medical offices when it comes to PCs and backrooms. But it just goes to show how hard it is to own it all. Apple is attempting to own the living room but I don't think they will succeed.
    12-21-2011 09:05 PM
  20. DKDogz54's Avatar
    that's true. Every pc I've seen in the building was running windows... XP... It would be nice to see them upgrade to windows 7 though. But you see this setting often because there are more medical applications on windows desktops, but not much on their phones.

    one thing I noticed today is the increasing interest of tablets in my hospital. Hopefully windows 8 won't have any shortcomings here for long or it will be the same case here. And like what one person said above, once a person is comfortable with an os, it will be hard to switch.
    12-21-2011 09:58 PM
  21. KingCrimson's Avatar
    that's true. Every pc I've seen in the building was running windows... XP... It would be nice to see them upgrade to windows 7 though. But you see this setting often because there are more medical applications on windows desktops, but not much on their phones.

    one thing I noticed today is the increasing interest of tablets in my hospital. Hopefully windows 8 won't have any shortcomings here for long or it will be the same case here. And like what one person said above, once a person is comfortable with an os, it will be hard to switch.
    Another thing is are these mobile medical apps tied to some backend that isn't Microsoft? Because if they are bypassing that - they have no more need for any Microsoft products in their office. Dangerous days ahead for Redmond.
    12-21-2011 10:05 PM
  22. DKDogz54's Avatar
    most of us just use the apps as a quick reference just in case we might have missed something. But a lot of hospitals implemented iPhones that are able to access patient information on the fly, I believe the information and programming still relies on pc's. I really doubt there will be any changes to a total mac platform soon since their computers are way too expensive and hardly play nice to anything non apple, so Microsoft is good there.
    12-21-2011 10:26 PM
  23. KingCrimson's Avatar
    most of us just use the apps as a quick reference just in case we might have missed something. But a lot of hospitals implemented iPhones that are able to access patient information on the fly, I believe the information and programming still relies on pc's. I really doubt there will be any changes to a total mac platform soon since their computers are way too expensive and hardly play nice to anything non apple, so Microsoft is good there.
    True enough, but that won't last for long if Microsoft doesn't get their act together. Hopefully Windows 8 makes enough of a splash to keep the desktops in the fold when the next upgrade cycle comes. Heck, more medical offices are still on XP.
    12-21-2011 10:49 PM
  24. WPLuver's Avatar
    Ask yourself why people flocked to iPhones in the first place. Until you can, you will have any solution on how to grow Windows Phone.
    Well, isn't that easy to answer. I mean nothing even came close at the time. But that was then, and this is now. I can only take a guess on what might cause people to switch

    In order for people to want to switch..

    From IPhone to WP
    - iOS stays visibly the same for the next year or two. People get bored, see more WP phones in their friends hands, get hit with the grass-is-greener-on-the-othe-side-of-the-fence bug, and switch
    - The novelty and cool factor with IPhone wears off (it already is) as everybody has one and yet people are finding they are still getting hit with that $30-$40 Apple tax (aka Data Plan), it gets old and they say enough is enough and switch.
    - Apple screws over its users with some new feature/tax and people leave in droves aka Netflix
    - Apple messes up a few updates that like iOS 5 and iOS 5.0.1 and so on, people get fed up and switch

    From Android to WP
    - People continue to have niggling issues with their phones, they see WP phones that are rock-sold, so they switch
    - OEMs continue to push out Android phones at the current furious pace, everyone has one, its no longer cool to have one, so they switch to something "new"
    - OEM take forever to roll out patches and updates. This is a really possibility - take a look at Print Page - Why OEMs need months to deliver Android updates to your phone | ExtremeTech
    - OEM continue to tweak the Android code causing more and more Apps to work on some phones and not on others. They have had enough, they switch
    - Malware on the Android platform start to steal from users. This is a BIGGIE!! I definitely see this happening.
    - Certain OEMs loose faith in Android and decide to no longer support it. Given that Android is free, Microsoft is going to really have to make it worth their while.


    From iPhone or Android to WP
    - Microsoft presents some really compelling use-cases (like XBOX) that get the college-going public to want to switch
    - Microsoft makes it incredibly cheap to listen to any music you want so iTune-vested users dont have a reason not to switch
    - Microsoft starts to invest heavily in the enterprise-class Mobile device management stack so that managing WP devices is just and extension of the tools IT admins already use to manage other windows devices.
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    12-21-2011 11:11 PM
  25. KingCrimson's Avatar
    ^^^
    You pay the data plan regardless of iPhone/Android/WP7. That's not a legitimate point. Also medical offices won't care about being bored with iOS, they want the killer apps.
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    12-21-2011 11:35 PM
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