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  1. baseballbert's Avatar
    Dual vs single core anyone???
    01-07-2012 10:03 PM
  2. mkr10001's Avatar
    Dual vs single core anyone???
    Doesn't bother me. If the phone runs fine on single core.....

    I do think it's funny when people go on about how their android phone has dual core when in reality they have NO IDEA what that even means
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    01-08-2012 08:08 AM
  3. Premium1's Avatar
    Doesn't bother me. If the phone runs fine on single core.....

    I do think it's funny when people go on about how their android phone has dual core when in reality they have NO IDEA what that even means
    I think it will need dual core not to run the os smoothly but more for gaming. I mean if you are touting it with all these games the extra processing power will be needed at some time. maybe not right now but sooner than later it will require it for that reason alone.
    01-08-2012 10:25 AM
  4. freestaterocker's Avatar
    But that's only if you get data plans. You need data to access mms.
    No You don't.
    01-08-2012 11:04 AM
  5. freestaterocker's Avatar
    I think it will need dual core not to run the os smoothly but more for gaming. I mean if you are touting it with all these games the extra processing power will be needed at some time. maybe not right now but sooner than later it will require it for that reason alone.
    Games run off GPU, not CPU. The only thing you can't do with single core that you can do with dual core is record 1080p video, and the camera tech isn't there anyway on phones yet for it to look good on full HD display. It really is a non-issue other than for spec-whores.
    Justin.TV312 likes this.
    01-08-2012 11:07 AM
  6. mkr10001's Avatar
    No You don't.
    Don't be quoting and replying to things from page 2. Especially when they cause so much arguing
    01-08-2012 11:16 AM
  7. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Given I'm joining his thread when it's already 10 pages long, somebody may have already said this, but the fundamental reason WP hasn't taken off is education. People think it's windows mobile, or have no idea it exists. Most people aren't in tech forums and don't read tech blogs. People that have iPhones or android phones and like them WILL NOT SWITCH. The market MS needs to go after is 1st time smartphone buyers. The way they get that market, is by getting reps to push it. I speak from personal experience, as the HD7 I'm posting this from is my first smartphone, and I learned about it from a rep. I wanted an iPhone until I tried typing on one, and just knew I wanted either a physical keyboard or a bigger screen. He sold me based on the Xbox Live and social network integration, and the fact that the OS just works. He knew about mango upcoming (it wasn't out yet) and that was a selling point as well. End result, I became a diehard. If MS throws in the towel I'll end up back on a feature phone, because I've tried android and IOS, and they aren't for me.
    Reflexx likes this.
    01-08-2012 11:42 AM
  8. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Don't be quoting and replying to things from page 2. Especially when they cause so much arguing
    My bad. I was starting from page 1 and didn't realize all the shenanigans that arose because of that tangent... If I could delete it I would.
    01-08-2012 11:44 AM
  9. Premium1's Avatar
    Games run off GPU, not CPU. The only thing you can't do with single core that you can do with dual core is record 1080p video, and the camera tech isn't there anyway on phones yet for it to look good on full HD display. It really is a non-issue other than for spec-whores.
    Well then get a better gpu. Dual core will still help though.
    01-08-2012 12:18 PM
  10. Premium1's Avatar
    No You don't.
    You do if you don't have a messaging plan...
    01-08-2012 12:18 PM
  11. freestaterocker's Avatar
    You do if you don't have a messaging plan...
    Look upwards a few posts... We're not lighting this fire again.
    01-08-2012 03:08 PM
  12. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Well then get a better gpu. Dual core will still help though.
    The new mango handsets do have upgraded GPUs.
    01-08-2012 03:10 PM
  13. Premium1's Avatar
    The new mango handsets do have upgraded GPUs.
    How exactly? They are running old snap dragons.The current gpu in mango phones wont cut it for the real graphic intensive games.
    01-08-2012 03:39 PM
  14. falconeight#IM's Avatar
    This thread shows WP7 is getting popular. Its just like all the nonsense you see at the other carrier forums.
    01-08-2012 08:05 PM
  15. freestaterocker's Avatar
    How exactly? They are running old snap dragons.The current gpu in mango phones wont cut it for the real graphic intensive games.
    Several new devices are running "old" chips because they are powerful and still work. The Adreno 205 that many of the new mango handsets use is a great GPU. It does great with all the current games and there's no reason to believe it will struggle with future mobile titles anytime soon. My 1st Gen HD7 with the Adreno 200 runs Fruit Ninja smoother than my wife's iPhone, btw. (maybe not the most intense example, but the only game we both have)
    01-08-2012 09:06 PM
  16. Premium1's Avatar
    Several new devices are running "old" chips because they are powerful and still work. The Adreno 205 that many of the new mango handsets use is a great GPU. It does great with all the current games and there's no reason to believe it will struggle with future mobile titles anytime soon. My 1st Gen HD7 with the Adreno 200 runs Fruit Ninja smoother than my wife's iPhone, btw. (maybe not the most intense example, but the only game we both have)
    is it the 4s? Because that is the first iphone that they really up'd the gpu to focus on gaming.
    01-08-2012 10:10 PM
  17. Odeira.Oloap's Avatar
    More people insist on buying something by looking at the specs sheet, and apparently ONLY at the specs sheet. That's why.

    That system works wonders to Android phones (with all their multi-cores and LTE's and HD displays); to some extent the iPhone.

    On Windows Phone, it is the one thing that is killing its potential marketshare and potential user base.

    When they want to buy a new phone, they first refer to the specs sheet, either from word of mouth or written sources (like wpcentral).

    They see an Android phone, with LTE and 720p HD display, and they think, "Oh, look! Nice specs! Let's buy this!"

    They see the iPhone, with 8mp optics, dual core, 500k apps, and they think, "Oh, look! Nice specs! Many apps! Let's get this!"

    They see a Windows Phone, with a single-core processor, WVGA resolution, 720p HD video maximum, 50k apps repertoire, and they think, "EWW! SINGLE CORE! THAT'S SNAIL PACE, MAN!", "EWW! ONLY 50K APPS!", "EWW! WINDOWS! IT'S SLOW AND LAGGY!" (This argument is forgiveable if you are used a Mac from the get-go, but hypocritical if you use Windows 7.)

    Windows Phone is the only true mobile OS with potential to make a significant change in the Mobile OS world. But until we get a device that when you line up with the specs sheets of Androids and the iPhone you can say, "Hey! Look at this Windows Phone! Nice specs! Let's buy this thing!", we may probably never realize that potential, but that's just me.
    01-09-2012 04:49 AM
  18. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Knowledge of the OS and the confusion with WinMo is the issue in my humble opinion. I would say about 50% of the people I show my device to get an odd look on there face and say "windows mobile?" I spend the next 10 minutes or so explaining the difference. Microsoft and there partners need to push an education campaign to show this OS and its potential. The majority of people buying a phone I'm not talking about us phone lovers I'm talking high school kid or off the street business person most are looking for a good device with a good price. Most will do little research they will ask there techy friends what to buy and will walk in to the store with something in mind when they get there. The percentages say they will be looking for Android or IOs because that is what they know and are hearing about. Its Microsoft and the phone makers responsibility to get the word out. A strong device selection is essential i think Microsoft has been waiting for a better lineup to emerge before pushing the platform and now that Nokia is ready i think we will see a big push to get these phones out the door.
    01-09-2012 05:53 AM
  19. Reflexx's Avatar
    Knowledge of the OS and the confusion with WinMo is the issue in my humble opinion. I would say about 50% of the people I show my device to get an odd look on there face and say "windows mobile?" I spend the next 10 minutes or so explaining the difference. Microsoft and there partners need to push an education campaign to show this OS and its potential. The majority of people buying a phone I'm not talking about us phone lovers I'm talking high school kid or off the street business person most are looking for a good device with a good price. Most will do little research they will ask there techy friends what to buy and will walk in to the store with something in mind when they get there. The percentages say they will be looking for Android or IOs because that is what they know and are hearing about. Its Microsoft and the phone makers responsibility to get the word out. A strong device selection is essential i think Microsoft has been waiting for a better lineup to emerge before pushing the platform and now that Nokia is ready i think we will see a big push to get these phones out the door.
    Just think how all of that would have been solved if they just called it LiveOS. :)
    01-09-2012 01:05 PM
  20. mkr10001's Avatar
    Just think how all of that would have been solved if they just called it LiveOS. :)
    Not really....LiveOS still sounds crap
    01-09-2012 02:20 PM
  21. Reflexx's Avatar
    Not really....LiveOS still sounds crap
    To you...

    But it would still have solved the above problem.

    And "LiveOS" is just an example name. It could have been anything that didn't say "Windows."
    01-09-2012 02:57 PM
  22. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Not really....LiveOS still sounds crap
    That's a rude statement to make. If you don't like his idea that's okay but you don't have to call in crap. I always try to think before I post I think to myself is this really necessary. If it's not don't post it. I think there is little chance that Microsoft is going to change the name of the OS but it's a fun idea to toss around. LiveOS would be a good name so would HotOS but I doubt we will ever see a name change. Now lets get back on topic.
    01-09-2012 03:13 PM
  23. Reflexx's Avatar
    That's a rude statement to make. If you don't like his idea that's okay but you don't have to call in crap. I always try to think before I post I think to myself is this really necessary. If it's not don't post it. I think there is little chance that Microsoft is going to change the name of the OS but it's a fun idea to toss around. LiveOS would be a good name so would HotOS but I doubt we will ever see a name change. Now lets get back on topic.
    How about DaveBlakeOS?
    01-09-2012 03:17 PM
  24. TheWeeBear's Avatar
    BearOS (BrightEasyAestheticallyRightOS) :D

    Dave would charge too much for the use of that name, but i wouldn't charge at all Winning Guy. :D
    01-09-2012 03:24 PM
  25. mkr10001's Avatar
    That's a rude statement to make. If you don't like his idea that's okay but you don't have to call in crap. I always try to think before I post I think to myself is this really necessary. If it's not don't post it. I think there is little chance that Microsoft is going to change the name of the OS but it's a fun idea to toss around. LiveOS would be a good name so would HotOS but I doubt we will ever see a name change. Now lets get back on topic.
    Not really, we've been through this all before lol

    Windows phone is fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine
    01-09-2012 03:28 PM
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