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  1. masherro's Avatar
    This may be a repeat but I could not find it...

    I regularly use both live.com and Gmail. Both work well within my expectations. However, the live.com email seems to be just a bit more efficient at managing my calendar and contacts than my Gmail does. Am I crazy or is hotmail actually better?

    Here's where a potential problem lies for me: I use Google Apps for Business and my Company email is facilitated by Gmail. Given cost factors, I am unable to move to Microsoft Exchange and Hotmail doesn't appear to offer a similar service. Any thoughts or feedback?
    01-03-2012 07:19 PM
  2. KingCrimson's Avatar
    Gmail is way better with threaded conversations, nested labels, calendar widget and multiple layouts. We'll see what the latest Hotmail iteration brings.
    01-03-2012 07:20 PM
  3. Major's Avatar
    I like Gmail better, but Hotmail is not a complete dog, either. I just wish stuff would update in the cloud with Hotmail/Live as fast as it does with Gmail. Gmail is instant.
    01-03-2012 09:14 PM
  4. o4liberty's Avatar
    I use both and I like live better. I had a lot of issues with android devices and Gmail. I wasn't getting my email fast enough and depending on the device I was using sometimes it took hours. With windows so far it consistent.
    01-03-2012 09:43 PM
  5. jfa1's Avatar
    I used outlook for most of my proffesional life and when I switched to windows phone and could nmot direct sync I was taken aback after years on windows mobile. But I have adapted to using the hotmail calendar I still use outlook for email but I have my office email and my msn.com hotmail address linked and I am ling it a lot. The addition of to dos in the live calendar is a big help I just wish they would renamne it tasks instead of to dos then it would at least named the same as outlook. I am to the point where if they bring back direct sync with outlook it would be okay but if they dont I can live without it. I have two gmail accounts and toyed with the idea of using ggogle calendar but it seems to be pretty much the same so I probably wont do it.
    01-03-2012 10:11 PM
  6. enahs555's Avatar
    I use gmail for email, and live for everything else. Really like the skydrive, and Windows Live Mesh to sync folders on PC (like dropbox, but more free space)!, with built in nice web access to Skydrive. The Windows Live Calendar I like because it is nicely integrated with phone, and I got a cool little desktop gadget that displays the Live calendar, and so if I update it on my phone (or desktop) the other places shows the change, etc.
    01-03-2012 10:17 PM
  7. Justin.TV312's Avatar
    Without a doubt hotmail is the best. Provides the most storage,easiest to use ,doesn't bog down and crash web browsers and doesn't mess up quality of contact pictures like Gmail does. Anyone who says otherwise must be on something
    01-03-2012 11:22 PM
  8. masherro's Avatar
    Thank you everyone. I actually ended up reaching out to a contact at Microsoft and found what I am looking for. It's Office Live for Small Business. It looks to be the perfect choice for me. I appreciate the feedback.
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    01-03-2012 11:35 PM
  9. alaskanjackson's Avatar
    Used both for private and business, our IT guy spends a large amount of time "fixing" our inexpensive gmail scheduling/calendar. Because of that and security concerns we will be switching to ms exchange later in the spring. Personally, my wife and I switched back to Hotmail for email etc recently because of the ease of use with our new phones, I do keep a gmail account for email info requests and not that it matters but gmail is dated in appearance and functionality.

    *you must of posted as I was typing, "alls well that ends well"
    01-03-2012 11:48 PM
  10. jfa1's Avatar
    Thank you everyone. I actually ended up reaching out to a contact at Microsoft and found what I am looking for. It's Office Live for Small Business. It looks to be the perfect choice for me. I appreciate the feedback.
    Is that Office 365 with the built in Exchange server capability? I have looked at that for 6.00 a month.
    01-03-2012 11:54 PM
  11. seonetsmartz's Avatar
    Gmail is better . But i thing one person who is using one thing from many time that suits him better. Everyone have some favorites. Thats why my favorite is Gmail.


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    01-03-2012 11:56 PM
  12. Justin.TV312's Avatar
    Gmail is better . But i thing one person who is using one thing from many time that suits him better. Everyone have some favorites. Thats why my favorite is Gmail.


    Thanks & regards
    Software Development Company, Web Design Development, Mobile Application Development, SEO Services Netsmartz
    is not,see my post above and the posts after
    01-04-2012 12:05 AM
  13. masherro's Avatar
    Is that Office 365 with the built in Exchange server capability? I have looked at that for 6.00 a month.
    Yes. From what I have seen it will work perfectly.
    01-04-2012 12:06 AM
  14. cgk's Avatar
    I set up a trial account yesterday for that, I perfer gmail to hotmail but will give 365 a trial and see what is like.
    Last edited by cgk1; 01-04-2012 at 03:44 AM.
    01-04-2012 03:34 AM
  15. TGBmark1234's Avatar
    It's all down to personal taste. I use both.

    I've never liked gmail's website, but only ever use it through my WP7 and Outlook. Hotmail's website is better and the integration with WP7 and Outlook is far superior.

    But, that's just my opinion.
    01-04-2012 10:58 AM
  16. Mike-Mike's Avatar
    I used Gmail on my BB and thought it was fine, but on the WP7, I definitely prefer Live.com. But I didn't have a live.com address on my BB, I only created that when I signed up for Zune.
    01-04-2012 11:42 AM
  17. S1NKING SH1PS's Avatar
    I came to WP7 from Android, so I was using Gmail for all my stuff. But in the past few months I've had my WP, I've began moving everything over to Live and like it so much better. Both are really great, powerful tools, though, so it really does boil down to personal taste I think. I'm excited to see what the Live/Hotmail team comes up with this year.
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    01-04-2012 01:13 PM
  18. btbam91's Avatar
    I use my hotmail account. Have it linked across my calendar,xbox live, zune, etc.
    01-04-2012 08:18 PM
  19. N8ter's Avatar
    It's all down to personal taste. I use both.

    I've never liked gmail's website, but only ever use it through my WP7 and Outlook. Hotmail's website is better and the integration with WP7 and Outlook is far superior.

    But, that's just my opinion.
    Both use activesync. The only thing hotmail has is the connector for outlook but that thing is shoddy. You're better off just using Windows Live Mail which makes Hotmail function much like an Exchange account if run concurrently with WLM (can set it to start WLM when you start the mail app).

    The thing I dislike about hotmail is the amount of spam and phishing emails I get there. Account security is a huge issue on Windows Live in my experience. Hotmail has a relatively bad reputation. That's why Microsoft tried to rebrand it like 50 times.

    I use both and just keep things separated. I don't mind the extra work.

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    01-05-2012 04:01 AM
  20. N8ter's Avatar
    I use both and I like live better. I had a lot of issues with android devices and Gmail. I wasn't getting my email fast enough and depending on the device I was using sometimes it took hours. With windows so far it consistent.
    Not sure if serious.

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    01-05-2012 04:03 AM
  21. TGBmark1234's Avatar
    Both use activesync. The only thing hotmail has is the connector for outlook but that thing is shoddy. You're better off just using Windows Live Mail which makes Hotmail function much like an Exchange account if run concurrently with WLM (can set it to start WLM when you start the mail app).
    I have to disagree with you here. WLM, particularly in its 2011 form, is a huge smelly pile of junk. I've been using the Outlook Connector with Outlook 2010 for about a year now and never had an issue. It just works. I wish it would sync tasks, but that's the only problem I have with it.


    The thing I dislike about hotmail is the amount of spam and phishing emails I get there. Account security is a huge issue on Windows Live in my experience. Hotmail has a relatively bad reputation. That's why Microsoft tried to rebrand it like 50 times.
    It's going to be different for different people, but I've had my hotmail address for about 10 years and don't get any significant amount of spam at all. Like 1 or 2 messages a week which is the same as I get in my gmail account.

    You should take a look at some of the work that MS have done to reduce spam, both in hotmail and in general. eg: 90% less spam in Hotmail, 15% less spam on the Internet

    There is no technical reason why account security on hotmail would be any less than in gmail. User behaviour is the biggest weakness in both systems.
    01-05-2012 04:39 AM
  22. cgk's Avatar

    There is no technical reason why account security on hotmail would be any less than in gmail. User behaviour is the biggest weakness in both systems.

    Actually I think there is - no multi-factor authentication for hotmail is there?
    01-05-2012 05:35 AM
  23. TGBmark1234's Avatar
    Actually I think there is - no multi-factor authentication for hotmail is there?
    OK, I stand corrected on this, thanks. Didn't know gmail did this. Does it work with WP7/Outlook?
    01-05-2012 06:17 AM
  24. cgk's Avatar
    OK, I stand corrected on this, thanks. Didn't know gmail did this. Does it work with WP7/Outlook?
    Work fine - also because someone has written an authentication client for WP7, you can also use your WP7 to provide the code when you log in on a strange desktop, it also provides multifactor authentication for lastpass.
    01-05-2012 10:39 AM
  25. Justin.TV312's Avatar
    I just love it when N8ter,M8ter,B8ter H8ter gets proven wrong but he fails to realize it.
    01-05-2012 12:40 PM
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