02-05-2012 09:03 PM
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  1. MrSkrimps's Avatar
    I'm trying to go to T-mobile and I'm so desperate to switch carriers that I'm close to settling for the Lumia 710. (Their constant ads aren't helping the need either) I decided to take a look inside the store and here's a couple of things I notice.

    1- The phone is freaking ugly: Dear lord what an unfortunate looking device, even worst with the Radar next to it ( Which quite frankly to my surprise, I found it to look delicious). To add insult to insult to injury it's only on White/Black and Black/Black, none of the pretty colors that will make people interested.

    2- The phones are not on: just a static picture on there. Hey do you know what's the coolest thing about this OS? well the static, emotionless, plain, none flipping tiles of course. Never saw Windows Phone look so dead before. You can't check the smooth scrolling, the great browser experience, livelihood of the tiles, the fantastic build in Nokia apps. Nothing just a bunch of ugly looking squares that will never catch your attention.

    3-The price is not right: After playing with the phone for a couple of minutes (mostly press buttons and whatnot because the screen was dead) I decided to take a look at the price. 99.99$ on contract! excuse me but what? Is that how Nokia is planing to make a splash in the states? The Samsung Focus Flash ( a superior device in every way) it's only 99cents, you can buy 100 Focus Flashes for the price of one Lumia. I thought to myself that this was a mistake and it was probably the price of the Radar since it was next to it but nope, the Radar was 150$ dollars.

    That was a really disappointing trip and I'm thinking of sacrificing my wallet to AT&T =(.
    I recently moved to T-Mobile and purchased the Nokia Lumia 710. I suppose we have different ideas of what makes a device attractive and elegant. When I first scouted the Lumia online, I was skeptical about it's appearance for the simple reason I felt neither attracted or repulsed. After using it for two weeks, and coming from an Android on VZW's network, I have to say the Lumia is a pretty rock solid device and in person and in use, is quite elegant and even "polite" (no matter which sound I use for anything, it's not intrusive and obnoxious on the ears). There are some shortcomings with the phone, but not deal breakers (I don't like that you can't configure customer alerts for texts, notifications, etc - you have to use the stock alerts). As far as your being upset about the price, have you looked online??? I order mine online when I ported my number and started my T-Mobile account, and between the phone, activation, taxes and Shipping, i only paid 115.00. the phone was like 45.99. It performs just as fast as an iphone (in my opinion slightly out performs), and I can manage to go almost 2 days between charges with regular use. The phone really is win win.

    (PS I looked at the Samsung you mentioned...personally I thought that phone to be hideous);)
    01-30-2012 06:45 PM
  2. Winterfang's Avatar
    The Focus Flash looks a lot better in person, is pretty tiny and light yet it feels tough. I'm thinking of getting T-mobile for the sake of not paying 100 on every bill, I simply cannot afford AT&T right now :(
    01-30-2012 08:16 PM
  3. N8ter's Avatar
    The Focus Flash looks a lot better in person, is pretty tiny and light yet it feels tough. I'm thinking of getting T-mobile for the sake of not paying 100 on every bill, I simply cannot afford AT&T right now :(
    I agree, the Flash is the most attractive WP7 device on the market right now and the screen size and type is perfect for that screen resolution.
    Last edited by N8ter; 02-01-2012 at 03:24 AM. Reason: Spelling...
    02-01-2012 03:00 AM
  4. N8ter's Avatar
    I agree with what you just said that was my point I wasn't arguing Tmobile was a better carrier nationwide I was stating that for me in the area I live and travel it works best for what I need which is why I switched to them if AT&T had better service in the regions that I travel clearly I would've picked them. That is why I stated where I used to reside it was a terrible carrier I am failing to see where any single carrier is perfect no matter what corner of the country or world you travel in. To sit here and argue the same point over and over is a waste of time. I'm glad you have a carrier that works for you and its what you need but that doesn't mean its the best carrier for my needs does it? Not last I checked I know we should have one carrier controlled by one person to give us the best service ever imagined then they can charge us $1,000.00 a month and we'll all be happy right!? Sorry if you don't agree with my view on carriers but no one said we had to agree thats the beauty of the internet and forums like this we can all agree to disagree sometimes.
    You're exaggerating to try to make a point, and that never works. $1,000 a month, seriously? I was paying for 2 lines on T-Mobile - I only just ETF'd one of my lines after 14 or so Months of paying for 2.

    As far as I'm concerned, it's a net savings (since I'll be going from 2 lines on T-Mobile to 1 on AT&T), especially since I get both a corporate Discount and Corporate Allowance to pay a portion of my cell phone bill starting soon. My AT&T bill will probably be around $50 a month for 450 Minutes, Unlimited Mobile to ANY Mobile (T-Mobile is only Unlimited to T-Mobile and no one I know has them), Unlimited SMS/MMS and 3GB Data. Since I'm changing Platforms I won't need WiFi tethering for my iTouch anymore...

    When I say travel I mean real travel, not 1 hour up the highway travel, a situation where a carrier choice can easily be arrived at by simply looking at a coverage map. I travel to different parts of the country that are several hundreds to over a thousand miles away. For that, you need a more reliable carrier, especially when you're on trains for hours in some instances. Once that train leaves the major city, you want at last a couple bars of 3G with a decent download speed, not some basically unusable low GPRS signal that can barely hold a call.

    T-Mobile is the budget carrier. A lot of people that take their (cheap) service simply don't move around that way. For someone like me, I need a more reliable carrier. T-Mobile isn't reliable, and their network in many places is overloaded to the max. Their infrastructure is in desperate need of attention. No one cares abotu 4G when you can't even download at max edge speeds on the network.

    And I love how they have T-Mobile stores in cities where they have almost 0 reception. It's just too cute.
    02-01-2012 03:22 AM
  5. sprocket01's Avatar
    Yes clearly an exaggeration I wasn't really making a point I was being sarcastic. Like I have stated 2 other times its a matter of what works for you and what works for me. I'm aware of what "traveling" means but thanks for the lesson though! Also as stated before I'm glad you have a carrier that works well for you but that doesn't mean its the carrier for me. I'm not saying T-Mobile is a superior carrier the service works well for me where I live and the places I travel too. Here AT&T gets some of the worst service doesn't mean they are a crappy carrier just means they don't have good service in this area. I'm not sticking up for any one carrier just explaining my experiences with service and carriers seems kinda silly to keep beating a dead horse as I said earlier its a wonderful thing to agree to disagree. I'm sure I will travel places that my phone will get crappy service just like someone with Verizon and AT&T will travel places with bad services its the nature of the beast that's why its important to find a carrier that works the best for you meaning where you live and travel frequently. Seems pretty simple! I am finding it Pointless to hash over the same points! I don't get why things have to be so black and white with some people like "this carrier sucks this phone sucks"!! It's a matter of personal preference. I don't really care what carrier somebody uses or what phone they use if they are happy with the service and phone more power too them! There are much more important things in life to spend time worrying and complaining about. Maybe its just me though.
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    02-01-2012 09:32 AM
  6. N8ter's Avatar
    This is a mobile site about cell phones and wp7. What should I talk about, queen Elizabeth's shoes?

    Ugh. Never mind.


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    02-01-2012 12:49 PM
  7. sprocket01's Avatar
    You're exaggerating to make a point that never works remember. Yes stop talking about cell phones and wp7 that is exactly what I meant! How about just realize people are going to like the phone and carrier that works best for them they don't have to like your phone and carrier and it doesn't make them any less of a person for it! I just fail to see the point in trying to pound into someones head that the carrier you use is the best and there is no other better available. Over all for what I use and for the services in the areas I frequent my carrier works for me that's why i picked it same reason you picked the carrier you have that's how most rational choices are made. To make a choice based on what Fred from down at the coffee shop told me is a poor way to go about it. So I guess I should say Ugh Nevermind too because I can only agree with my own side of the conversation. Can you really say that someone should go with a company that doesn't have great service in the areas they frequent just because overall its a "better" company? how does that make any sense?


    Ugh Nevermind
    02-01-2012 01:18 PM
  8. Justin.TV312's Avatar
    Just ignore N8ter M8ter F8ter B8ter H8ter. XDA banned him for a reason. Its been proven that T-mobile is faster than all other carriers except Verizon LTe in many places across the nation and I myself never go below 4mbps and average around 15mbps on my radar. I get about half those speeds when tethering. T-mobile's network also covers 96% of Americans which is 1% less than the others. Also the welfare carrier remark sounds kinda racist.
    02-01-2012 07:52 PM
  9. Winterfang's Avatar
    Why does Welfare carrier sounds racist? I used to be on welfare before I got my job.
    02-01-2012 08:21 PM
  10. Justin.TV312's Avatar
    Because people who make those comments think that mostly African Americans and Latinos are on welfare which also coincidentally is most of T-mobile's customer base. I've got a mental picture of who N8ter is and it isn't pretty jaja.
    02-01-2012 08:41 PM
  11. Dave Blake's Avatar
    Checking in to this thread
    02-01-2012 08:56 PM
  12. crystinonfire's Avatar
    If there isn't a live phone out, I ask the reps at my local t-mobile store if they have one somewhere else or can open one up for me, and they always do.
    02-02-2012 10:46 AM
  13. Winterfang's Avatar
    Well the honeymoon between T-mobile and Nokia is over. They took the advertising of the phone on both offices near my house and replace it with the Sensation/Galaxy S II combo. I guess it was selling terrible.
    02-04-2012 07:29 PM
  14. speedtouch's Avatar
    Checking in to this thread
    What does that mean, exactly?
    02-04-2012 07:36 PM
  15. speedtouch's Avatar
    Well the honeymoon between T-mobile and Nokia is over. They took the advertising of the phone on both offices near my house and replace it with the Sensation/Galaxy S II combo. I guess it was selling terrible.
    Oh geez, already? That was fast.
    02-04-2012 07:37 PM
  16. Winterfang's Avatar
    Oh geez, already? That was fast.
    Yep, I'm actually uneasy. I think WP might die, one carrier is not enough man. Specially one that not everyone can afford.
    02-04-2012 07:46 PM
  17. Winterfang's Avatar
    Because people who make those comments think that mostly African Americans and Latinos are on welfare which also coincidentally is most of T-mobile's customer base. I've got a mental picture of who N8ter is and it isn't pretty jaja.
    Oooh, I'm hispanic and pretty dark skinned so It's definitely more than just a stereotype lol. I still don't see how Welfare carrier makes it racist though, I don't really see T-mobile as a carrier for poor people since we have Open Mobile in here, T-mobile is seen as fancy actually :D
    02-04-2012 07:52 PM
  18. johaas's Avatar
    Yep, I'm actually uneasy. I think WP might die, one carrier is not enough man. Specially one that not everyone can afford.
    Man, that sucks. Are people just turned off by the Lumia 710's specs (it doesn't exactly set my heart on fire either)?
    02-04-2012 07:55 PM
  19. Winterfang's Avatar
    Man, that sucks. Are people just turned off by the Lumia 710's specs (it doesn't exactly set my heart on fire either)?
    The thing is that the Lumia here is 100 bucks and they keep it on the same place as their Free phones, So it looks expensive for no reason.

    Also even worse is that I tried to take a look at the Lumia 710 in Radioshack since T-mobile doesn't have actual displays and Radioshack seems to had ditched T-mobile from their area =/.
    02-04-2012 08:11 PM
  20. speedtouch's Avatar
    Man, that sucks. Are people just turned off by the Lumia 710's specs (it doesn't exactly set my heart on fire either)?
    What's so bad about its specs? They're exactly the same as the Lumia 800 other than screen size and a swappable battery. Right?
    02-04-2012 08:14 PM
  21. speedtouch's Avatar
    Yep, I'm actually uneasy. I think WP might die, one carrier is not enough man. Specially one that not everyone can afford.
    Shoot, not even three carriers are enough. Palm's webOS was on all but T-Mo and it got smoked by everything else. *sigh*
    02-04-2012 08:16 PM
  22. Winterfang's Avatar
    Actually they are quite different. The Lumia has a bigger battery, a better camera, better display (Same size though) and double the memory(GB).
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    02-04-2012 08:17 PM
  23. JamesDax's Avatar
    Wow, so much misinformation in this thread.
    02-04-2012 11:05 PM
  24. Shark87's Avatar
    Well the honeymoon between T-mobile and Nokia is over. They took the advertising of the phone on both offices near my house and replace it with the Sensation/Galaxy S II combo. I guess it was selling terrible.
    Could depend on the area. Here in NYC I'm still seeing the Lumia 710 posters in Tmo store. It could also just be that they got new promo material since its a new month.
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    02-05-2012 12:18 AM
  25. speedtouch's Avatar
    Actually they are quite different. The Lumia has a bigger battery, a better camera, better display (Same size though) and double the memory(GB).
    That's right. Sorry, I thought we were only referring to the core of the phone (RAM, CPU, video, etc). However, both the 710 and 800 should run WP7 equally well.
    02-05-2012 01:54 AM
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