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  1. cedarlog's Avatar
    ride it out until the infinity i don't see myself with different os so i'll stick to windows phone :)
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    02-24-2012 05:27 AM
  2. GazooAz's Avatar
    I will have a windows phone as long as they are available.
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    02-24-2012 06:28 AM
  3. ubizmo's Avatar
    whos going to ride this all the way to the end? i love windows phones and the whole idea of it... but i dont see a bright future for it. ios continues to grow exponantially, android is still a giant, blackberry is about to fall all the way out, web os is already gone, and now windows continues to hold on by a thread... so in the event it doesnt make it, whos riding this to the end? and whos jumping ship before it sinks? ( if it does)

    i personally am riding it to the end... after that, ill probably go back to iphone =(

    not trying to be negatyive nancy, but stats arent looking good... stats may not mean much either, but i really thought after mango, i would see big things happeneing... and i dont... (given they are trying with ads) now, i hear big things when apollo hits, but ive heard that before...
    A couple of points in your statement need to be challenged.

    BlackBerry has had a rough year, but with 75 million units in service, it's a stretch to say that it's about to "fall all the way out." It has taken a beating in North America, but is still in first place in the UK and is strong in many other markets. BlackBerry's BIS uses data compression, which is very attractive in the many, many markets where unlimited data plans don't exist.

    In fact, before WP can even think about competing with Android or iOS, it must first do better than BB, and at the moment it isn't even close.

    BB10 is expected around the same time as Apollo.

    With that out of the way, I'll say that MS seems to be making the right moves. The WP Marketplace is growing at a brisk pace, and that's a good sign. Tango will make the OS available to more modest hardware, which will allow it to compete directly with BB in the developing world. WP is not currently fragmented the way Android is, and perhaps can avoid that fate. WP has imitated some of the best features of the iOS experience.

    We all want more features. Personally, I hope that MS will be careful not to grow the OS so quickly that it orphans the devices we all have. If WP follows that path, they take away one good reason not to go with Android.
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    02-24-2012 07:12 AM
  4. Speebs's Avatar
    1. they are taking forever on update? WP updates faster then Android, IOS , and all other currently on the market...( i break it down in my update section), APPLE has the BIGGEST problems EVER with update , eve thing crash cause they have a ****y over loaded system , and dont even get me started with ANDROIDs Upgrade system, GOD!! lol

    2. every single MS commercials has a WP in it ( i see easy 5 a day and i barely watch TV ). they advertise the OS not the phones ,, thats RTM's / EOM's jobs ( one of the reason you see nokia do so much is cause of the 8billion MS gave them)

    3. making it hard! are you kidding me , WP has the BEST developing support out of ALL the OS. if dev's make shiity apps its not MS's fault .. if it was MS's fault ALL THE APPS would be shiity

    seem like you need to get a WP refresher going: http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...ion/181501.htm
    Dude, nobody can take you seriously when you can't even acknowledge a single flaw with WP or MS.
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    02-24-2012 07:50 AM
  5. svtfmook's Avatar
    well, i will say this. i have had a ton of different devices (usually 3-4 per year for the past 6 years). from the OG iphone at release to ICS to blackberry to webOS, to symbian, to OG palm. windows 7 has been a better experience than any of them. and the focus s has been a better phone that even some of the proclaimed "best phones out there" that i have owned (better than my nexus s, better than my iphone 4, etc). wp7 has a great shot, M$ does seem to be losing the steam they had at the end of last year, but, you are seeing more an more wp7. it's a tough running they have, they are fighting the capabilities of android and the fad that is apple, but M$ has the chance to gain considerably on the competition. especially now with google privacy debacle that has a lot of users who have multiple accounts with google up in arms and a lot of ios users are starting to realize apple's marketing scam by creating a device sub-par, then releasing a new one 6 months later with what the previous device should have had.

    i was a long time ios and android user. i tried using an iphone yesterday and it just looked like a playskool toy phone. tried using my nexus s and it was just such a horrible laggy box of mixed nuts. i had a long time iphone user play around with my focus s last night at the bar and he was amazed at how smooth and responsive it was.

    i don't see wp7 failing unless M$ loses their steam. they need to just keep on moving and marketing, but expand farther than gadget shows. they need to keep up with give aways to convert some devs competitor users. and they need to get apollo released, or at least a comment on the changes and clarify some question as to whether or not it will work on 1st and 2nd gen phones.
    02-24-2012 08:31 AM
  6. svtfmook's Avatar
    A couple of points in your statement need to be challenged.

    BlackBerry has had a rough year, but with 75 million units in service, it's a stretch to say that it's about to "fall all the way out." It has taken a beating in North America, but is still in first place in the UK and is strong in many other markets. BlackBerry's BIS uses data compression, which is very attractive in the many, many markets where unlimited data plans don't exist.

    In fact, before WP can even think about competing with Android or iOS, it must first do better than BB, and at the moment it isn't even close.

    BB10 is expected around the same time as Apollo.

    With that out of the way, I'll say that MS seems to be making the right moves. The WP Marketplace is growing at a brisk pace, and that's a good sign. Tango will make the OS available to more modest hardware, which will allow it to compete directly with BB in the developing world. WP is not currently fragmented the way Android is, and perhaps can avoid that fate. WP has imitated some of the best features of the iOS experience.

    We all want more features. Personally, I hope that MS will be careful not to grow the OS so quickly that it orphans the devices we all have. If WP follows that path, they take away one good reason not to go with Android.
    the only thing keeping BB afloat is the enterprise world. you are not seeing the common person using blackberry, only corporations. and even corporations are steering away from BB for ios now. BB10 will not matter, the corporate world doesn't care about updates, they care about budget, capabilities and compatibility.
    02-24-2012 08:33 AM
  7. doublebullout's Avatar
    Couple of points:

    (1) The "Windows" brand has enormous value for Microsoft because of its name recognition, market penetration and professional image. It would have been a bigger risk for Microsoft to not use the Windows name for its mobile OS.

    (2) Microsoft needs to be advertising the **** out of WP7. I loved the "Really?" ad campaign and thought it was clever and effective. Advertising works if the ads are memorable. Microsoft should ramp up the marketing effort dramatically, as soon as possible.


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    02-24-2012 09:08 AM
  8. selfcreation's Avatar
    Dude, nobody can take you seriously when you can't even acknowledge a single flaw with WP or MS.
    First of all I wasn't saying it doesn't have flaw , and im sorry if it's hard to take me seriously when I state facts....

    And if you would have read my second post after that, you would have avoided a this comment.

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    02-24-2012 09:16 AM
  9. gsquared's Avatar
    whos going to ride this all the way to the end? i love windows phones and the whole idea of it... but i dont see a bright future for it. ios continues to grow exponantially, android is still a giant, blackberry is about to fall all the way out, web os is already gone, and now windows continues to hold on by a thread... so in the event it doesnt make it, whos riding this to the end? and whos jumping ship before it sinks? ( if it does)

    i personally am riding it to the end... after that, ill probably go back to iphone =(

    not trying to be negatyive nancy, but stats arent looking good... stats may not mean much either, but i really thought after mango, i would see big things happeneing... and i dont... (given they are trying with ads) now, i hear big things when apollo hits, but ive heard that before...
    Having read many of your comments / posts / etc Android or IOS is probably a better fit for you. You carry such an emotional attachment to what is nothing more than a tool. Nothing more, nothing less.
    02-24-2012 10:05 AM
  10. darthhen's Avatar
    I like this thread...good points from various aspects and perspectives.

    I think WP will be around for a while. Microsoft knows that this is a market they need to participate. With so many different client devices that's out there, it's all about connectivity, data sharing, and integration of entire ecosystems. I think of the following when I say ecosystems:
    1. Windows PC: I think the Windows PC that we know today will still be around for a long time. People will continue to use them, even though there are other devices out there. I remember when Linux came out, people said Windows will be gone, Linux will replace Windows...blob...blob. Obviously, that didn't happen. And of course, there's the Mac OS.
    2. Tablets: By tablets, I mean iPad, Transformer, and etc.. Not the Tablet PCs. Most people would say this is a data consumption device. And that most people will not create a whole lot of new content on it. That may be the case...but if your friend uploads picture and videos to some site, you may want to view them from your tablet
    3. Console: I think this is about controlling the TV. The point is, how do people watch their TV shows. I think MS realize that the TV is one of the main hubs of the family. And using the XBOX360 or PS3 is one of those ways to play in this field. Ten there's Google TV and Apple TV as well.
    4. Phone: This is all about mobility. How do you provide services to the consumer when they are not at home. This is one of the big missing links in the ecosystem. Microsoft needs to play in this market no matter what.


    The question in my mind about WP specifically is: Will WP have all the new and popular apps? For example, new Angry Birds is coming out in the near future. Will WP get it when it launches? Or will WP users have to wait for months?

    Even the Yelp app on WP is horrible. They really need to fix that thing.
    02-24-2012 10:16 AM
  11. CHIP72's Avatar
    Honestly, I think there is a big enough gap in what Apple iOS and Google Android OS do not fill (in terms of UI functionality, price, performance, and other factors) that it would be very surprising if there isn't a third major mobile OS. RIM Blackberry has been that third mobile OS, but their 2011 troubles put them in a dangerous spot. Right now it appears that third major mobile OS will either be Windows Phone OS or Blackberry BBX/10 OS; if I had to bet I'd predict it would be WP, largely because Microsoft is much further along in ironing out issues with WP OS than RIM is with Blackberry BBX/10 OS.
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    02-24-2012 11:21 AM
  12. bear_lx's Avatar
    Having read many of your comments / posts / etc Android or IOS is probably a better fit for you. You carry such an emotional attachment to what is nothing more than a tool. Nothing more, nothing less.
    really, an emotional attachment? you gathered that from reading a few posts? i have 300+ posts... this thread wasnt designed for people like you to throw in poor attitude , but yet to state an opinion on the future of this platform. but thanks for the advice!

    really my concerns stem from all the reading i do... it is difficult to think things are going in the right direction when i keep reading otherwise... i love the platform, but i have legit concerns. i also stated i am riding it till it ends, in which case i will, but i wish things looked a bit more optimistic, thats all.... isnt that a fair statement?
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    02-24-2012 11:30 AM
  13. CHIP72's Avatar
    I like this thread...good points from various aspects and perspectives.

    I think WP will be around for a while. Microsoft knows that this is a market they need to participate. With so many different client devices that's out there, it's all about connectivity, data sharing, and integration of entire ecosystems. I think of the following when I say ecosystems:
    1. Console: I think this is about controlling the TV. The point is, how do people watch their TV shows. I think MS realize that the TV is one of the main hubs of the family. And using the XBOX360 or PS3 is one of those ways to play in this field. Ten there's Google TV and Apple TV as well.
    The TV/console area IMO is where Microsoft is both most vulnerable and has tremendous opportunities. Within 10 years, I'd be surprised if we didn't see TVs with built-in video game console hardware. I think this is market Apple in particular wants to get into, and Microsoft, as a primarily non-hardware company that does not manufacture TVs (or even monitors), potentially could be vulnerable. On the other hand, Microsoft has established an ecosystem with the XBox 360, and they potentially could leverage that (or perhaps more accurately leverage that to a greater degree) with other devices that include their operating system. The Kinect motion detection system also has potential IMO to possibly be used in much broader manner than just for video games or even televisions. A combination of motion control, voice-activated control, and front-facing cameras could be core elements for televisions/consoles, desktops/laptops, and tablets/hybrid netbooks in the future.

    Honestly, I think the distinction between televisions and desktop computers will blur in the future as large, high-definition monitors become more and more common and more people stream video on their "computer" devices. Cable/satellite TV, home internet, and cell phone service providers have already become blurred (some companies, like Verizon, do all three things), so watching television through your computer or doing computer work on a Wi-Fi device while sitting 5-8 feet away from your large-screen HD TV/computer monitor may become commonplace in the future.
    02-24-2012 11:36 AM
  14. ubizmo's Avatar
    Honestly, I think there is a big enough gap in what Apple iOS and Google Android OS do not fill (in terms of UI functionality, price, performance, and other factors) that it would be very surprising if there isn't a third major mobile OS. RIM Blackberry has been that third mobile OS, but their 2011 troubles put them in a dangerous spot. Right now it appears that third major mobile OS will either be Windows Phone OS or Blackberry BBX/10 OS; if I had to bet I'd predict it would be WP, largely because Microsoft is much further along in ironing out issues with WP OS than RIM is with Blackberry BBX/10 OS.
    Spot on. At the moment, in North America, WP needs to focus on the battle for third place. Neither BB nor WP is in any position to contend for 2nd place yet. At the moment, BB has 3rd place and WP isn't yet challenging it. Moreover, BB has deep market penetration
    in other places, thanks to data compression and the availability of lower-cost models. This provides RIM with a strong revenue stream that enables them to weather the storm in North America. And this is why WP Tango isn't a misstep. It's Microsoft taking dead aim at that revenue stream and trying to carve off a chunk of it.

    The notion that BB is only alive because of corporate use is a stereotype. There is still a very large non-corporate user base on BIS, not BES. The fact that it has dwindled in North America doesn't mean that it is vanishing. I teach at a university and I often conduct informal polls of my students to see what devices they have, just for fun. iPhones and Androids certainly predominate, no surprise there, but consistently about 15% have BBs. WP phones are rare.

    But you (CHIP72) make the excellent point that Microsoft has a good headstart in working out the problems in WP. So even though BB has a headstart over WP in sheer user numbers, WP could catch up quickly if Apollo is hot and BB10 is late or disappointing.
    02-24-2012 01:48 PM
  15. HeyCori's Avatar
    When the day comes that WP stops receiving updates or apps then it will be time to jump ship. Right now I enjoy my device more than the competitions and I'm not going to jump ship simply because it's not "cool" to have a WP. Besides, most people's dismissive claims vanish once I show them how "cool" my Titan is. :D
    02-24-2012 02:08 PM
  16. selfcreation's Avatar
    really my concerns stem from all the reading i do... it is difficult to think things are going in the right direction when i keep reading otherwise... i love the platform, but i have legit concerns. i also stated i am riding it till it ends, in which case i will, but i wish things looked a bit more optimistic, that’s all.... isnt that a fair statement?

    more then fair.

    now some one will probably tell me it hat this post cant be taken seriously cause im defending a great product ( in other words let the trolling begin,*I really dint want to have to use that word LOL )not talking about you btw ;) )

    u simply post a opinion and people freak out! they forget thats the whole point of a FORUM! lol
    02-24-2012 02:12 PM
  17. joemd60's Avatar
    I still love my Terrific Trophy! But it is up to Verizon, not me. I intend to stay with a Windows phone. If Verizon does not come with another Windows phone, than I will decide what to do.
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    02-24-2012 02:14 PM
  18. darthhen's Avatar
    The TV/console area IMO is where Microsoft is both most vulnerable and has tremendous opportunities. Within 10 years, I'd be surprised if we didn't see TVs with built-in video game console hardware. I think this is market Apple in particular wants to get into, and Microsoft, as a primarily non-hardware company that does not manufacture TVs (or even monitors), potentially could be vulnerable. On the other hand, Microsoft has established an ecosystem with the XBox 360, and they potentially could leverage that (or perhaps more accurately leverage that to a greater degree) with other devices that include their operating system. The Kinect motion detection system also has potential IMO to possibly be used in much broader manner than just for video games or even televisions. A combination of motion control, voice-activated control, and front-facing cameras could be core elements for televisions/consoles, desktops/laptops, and tablets/hybrid netbooks in the future.

    Honestly, I think the distinction between televisions and desktop computers will blur in the future as large, high-definition monitors become more and more common and more people stream video on their "computer" devices. Cable/satellite TV, home internet, and cell phone service providers have already become blurred (some companies, like Verizon, do all three things), so watching television through your computer or doing computer work on a Wi-Fi device while sitting 5-8 feet away from your large-screen HD TV/computer monitor may become commonplace in the future.
    Yes, I agree that the distinction of what know as of today, TV and desktop will be blurry as we move forward. Wireless display is coming on line. Intel already has this technology on their Sandybridge based systems, although it is buggy. I'm sure AMD/Nvidia/Qualcomm/TI/others area also developing this technology. Once the hardware becomes more mainstream, it will be one less reason to turn on your XBOX360 or use your desktop computers to watch TV shows/movies. Isn't it great that we're always improving?! :D

    Just realized that I didn't answer this thread's original question: I'll ride it till my phone is broken, lost, or whenver I get the itch to replace it with something better. When that time comes, I'll buy the device that best suit my needs, wants, and wallet.
    02-24-2012 02:44 PM
  19. Seketh's Avatar
    There's a perfect answer to this thread, and it comes from Apple CEO Tim Cook:

    Tim Cook: Phone market isn't a two-horse race, 'there's a horse in Redmond that always runs' | The Verge

    /thread
    02-24-2012 03:18 PM
  20. CHIP72's Avatar
    Spot on. At the moment, in North America, WP needs to focus on the battle for third place. Neither BB nor WP is in any position to contend for 2nd place yet. At the moment, BB has 3rd place and WP isn't yet challenging it. Moreover, BB has deep market penetration
    in other places, thanks to data compression and the availability of lower-cost models. This provides RIM with a strong revenue stream that enables them to weather the storm in North America. And this is why WP Tango isn't a misstep. It's Microsoft taking dead aim at that revenue stream and trying to carve off a chunk of it.

    The notion that BB is only alive because of corporate use is a stereotype. There is still a very large non-corporate user base on BIS, not BES. The fact that it has dwindled in North America doesn't mean that it is vanishing. I teach at a university and I often conduct informal polls of my students to see what devices they have, just for fun. iPhones and Androids certainly predominate, no surprise there, but consistently about 15% have BBs. WP phones are rare.

    But you (CHIP72) make the excellent point that Microsoft has a good headstart in working out the problems in WP. So even though BB has a headstart over WP in sheer user numbers, WP could catch up quickly if Apollo is hot and BB10 is late or disappointing.
    For whatever it is worth, in addition to owning an HTC Trophy I also recently bought a Blackberry Playbook (with BB QNX OS, which is intended to be similar to BB BBX/10 OS). I really like what I've seen on BB QNX OS in terms of user interface; I'd personally like to see both WP OS (or more accurately Windows 8 OS) and BBX/10 OS get strong user adoption because both are very good and both are distinctly different than iOS and Android OS (with Windows Phone OS being a little more unique IMO than BB QNX OS). Unfortunately, I'd be surprised if both are widely adopted, particularly in the U.S.

    I also agree that Windows Phone Tango is a good move by Microsoft. There are literally billions of people on this planet that live in developing areas where cellular communications isn't just emerging as the most popular electronic communications medium available, but is by far the best developed or even only electronic communications medium available. In these areas, where incomes are low or very low relative to U.S./western European standards, inexpensive but powerful smartphones will rule in sales terms. Apple won't be a player in those areas (except to the richest people in those countries), so Google, Microsoft, and RIM (and possibly other, yet-to-emerge players) will compete there. I think both Microsoft, via Tango OS, and RIM are well-positioned to grab significant market share; RIM is already doing well in those emerging countries. Google Android will also grab significant market share, but I think low-end Android devices' poor performance quality will harm Google in the longer-term in emerging countries, especially with governments in those countries.
    02-24-2012 03:49 PM
  21. Diamondx_8's Avatar
    Not jumping ship. We have three WP7.5 phones in my house are we are committed. We also have one Android phone. The OS works for us and we enjoy our phone immensely. As long as we enjoy them that way, we will be onboard. Apps don't mean as much to me or my family members. We use our phones for calls, internet access when out of the house, texting, email and social media. WP7.5 has that covered. I don't need 500,000 apps. I just need the 10 that I need to be available. The ecosystem will grow.

    I don't believe Microsoft can afford to lose this fight. Not having a mobile presence is an untenable, nonviable commercial outcome. They cannot allow it to be. Steve Jobs once said he would spend Apple's entire cash hoard to fight off Google or some other folks that infringed on their patents. I think Microsoft will take the same stance on WP. They will spend the whole stack before they concede defeat. We have seen how this determination worked for them in the past with xBox. In my opinion.
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    02-24-2012 11:52 PM
  22. N8ter's Avatar
    Jumping ship cause I like high quality paid apps and this platform isn't worth deep investment in the ecosystem. Already got all the free albums I need. I canceled my Zune pass as well. The only thing keeping me fro. Leaving tight now is the chance of the iPhone 5 having a larger screen. Buy i can't wait much longer. Switching from the Vibrant to this has really made me a less efficient communicator.

    At the moment win phone feels like an open beta for the woa ecosystem.



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    02-24-2012 11:52 PM
  23. N8ter's Avatar
    Console market is different and sony botched the ps3 (late and overpriced). The smartphone market is different. Xbox has nothing to di with WI does phone and no hypothesis can be drawn from that. Microsoft basically did in the mobile market what Sony did in the console market. RIM is doing it, too.

    they lost imo. Its about ecosystem and I don't foresee and future update being so amazing that people will walk away from ecosystems they're locked in to just to start all over again.

    This is a much bigger issue than phone hardware and specs imo. Buying a WP as a different platform user means walking away from hundreds of dollars in ecosystem investment. Its like switching to windowsfrom mac and havi g to pay again for all your software. It works both ways, bit Microsoft was so late that they didn't get the first jump on co.petitors


    Rims terrible developer support made it easy for users here to abandon them


    Not jumping ship. We have three WP7.5 phones in my house are we are committed. We also have one Android phone. The OS works for us and we enjoy our phone immensely. As long as we enjoy them that way, we will be onboard. Apps don't mean as much to me or my family members. We use our phones for calls, internet access when out of the house, texting, email and social media. WP7.5 has that covered. I don't need 500,000 apps. I just need the 10 that I need to be available. The ecosystem will grow.

    I don't believe Microsoft can afford to lose this fight. Not having a mobile presence is an untenable, nonviable commercial outcome. They cannot allow it to be. Steve Jobs once said he would spend Apple's entire cash hoard to fight off Google or some other folks that infringed on their patents. I think Microsoft will take the same stance on WP. They will spend the whole stack before they concede defeat. We have seen how this determination worked for them in the past with xBox. In my opinion.

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    02-25-2012 12:03 AM
  24. Reflexx's Avatar
    In my opinion, WP success isn't a matter if "if", but "when."

    So to me, even if things are slow for the next year or two, I'll still be happy and optimistic.

    I remember feeling the same way about the XBOX. People were declaring it dead from before it's launch all the way until the 360 came out. And some people even declared the 360 dead for its first 2 years.

    WP will grow. So I feel safe investing in this ecosystem. And it will be other people who will be upset that they invested so much into iPhone and/or Android when the pull of WP becomes so great that they make the switch.
    02-25-2012 12:55 AM
  25. Diamondx_8's Avatar
    Console market is different and sony botched the ps3 (late and overpriced). The smartphone market is different. Xbox has nothing to di with WI does phone and no hypothesis can be drawn from that. Microsoft basically did in the mobile market what Sony did in the console market. RIM is doing it, too.

    they lost imo. Its about ecosystem and I don't foresee and future update being so amazing that people will walk away from ecosystems they're locked in to just to start all over again.

    This is a much bigger issue than phone hardware and specs imo. Buying a WP as a different platform user means walking away from hundreds of dollars in ecosystem investment. Its like switching to windowsfrom mac and havi g to pay again for all your software. It works both ways, bit Microsoft was so late that they didn't get the first jump on co.petitors


    Rims terrible developer support made it easy for users here to abandon them





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    It would be a flawed strategy for Microsoft to deploy capital with the intent of converting entrenched users that are well invested in their current ecosystem. In my opinion, the correct strategy is to go after the hundreds of millions of people around the world that have yet to buy a smartphone but will in the near future. If Microsoft can get a higher proportion of those people than Android and iPhone, they will begin to reduce the lead and establish a respectable market share. Remember there are more people in the world without a smartphone than with one. Clearly, Microsoft will have to put out a product that will induce people to choose Windows Phone over Android and iPhone. I think they are making a compelling case for that. Only time will tell.

    Also, I think we can distill some learnings from the console market. To say Microsoft's outcome there cannot be repeated is synonymous with saying Google and Apple are infallible and will never make a bad business decision. No one thought Sony would lose their number one slot until it happened. No one thought Apple would have to make a major mea culpa on labor practices until they did, and that changes how people feel. It does not feel the same to whip out your fancy Apple gadget to feel like king of the hill only to have someone ask "Is that one of the ones made by a 12 year old working a 14 hour shift?". Kind of takes some of the shine off. No one thought Google would have to make a major mea culpa on hacking privacy settings until they did, and that changes how people feel. Kind of makes you pause on hitting that search button when you have to consider that Google is recording every keystroke and destination point. All I am saying is anything is possible in business and it would be unwise to count out a company that has been as successful as Microsoft has been that is also sitting on billions in cash. I know Apple and Google also have billions. Tim Cook isn't taking the folks in Redmond for granted.
    02-25-2012 01:07 AM
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