03-19-2012 01:33 PM
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  1. theefman's Avatar
    'kay, so I've been using a DVP since it launched in 2010, getting a bit long in the tooth but frankly I'm just a bit bored. There's nothing really exciting on Tmo so I have to make do with either a Radar or 710. Only thing is I would like tethering so that makes the Radar a better fit (though I hate white phones) but I prefer Nokia for their bundled applications. Both of them though would give me better performance in browsing, picture taking and gaming. Whatever I buy though is just to get me through till WP8 devices hit so I can make do with any quirks either device may have.

    So what would you choose, or have already chosen? I'm sure some have faced this question, are you still happy with what you chose?
    03-09-2012 10:58 AM
  2. speedtouch's Avatar
    I have not used the Radar except for a few minutes at the T-Mo store. But my wife has a Lumia 710 and she really enjoys it. I have to say, it's a fast WP7 device. Very fast. And the screen is gorgeous.
    03-09-2012 11:27 AM
  3. cedarlog's Avatar
    it depend on what you need
    1G cpu with front facing camera, tethering, battery 1520mAh and 4G
    OR
    1.4 CPU better apps but no front facing camera or tethering, battery 1300mAh and 3G

    im not you so
    i don't use skype on my desktop and i don't need tethering or 4G
    so i'll go with 710 just for the apps, cpu and better design

    but which is better i think radar has better hardware specifications
    03-09-2012 11:38 AM
  4. freshairr's Avatar
    I was in the same situation and though I really like Nokia's bundled apps, I ultimately went for the radar because of the better build quality (imo, less plastic) and the capacitive buttons (didn't like the physical ones on the lumia).

    The huge battery is also awesome and I can go a full day without charging, and that included GPS navigation. O__O
    03-09-2012 12:30 PM
  5. theefman's Avatar
    I was in the same situation and though I really like Nokia's bundled apps, I ultimately went for the radar because of the better build quality (imo, less plastic) and the capacitive buttons (didn't like the physical ones on the lumia).

    The huge battery is also awesome and I can go a full day without charging, and that included GPS navigation. O__O
    Thanks, thats another thing the DVP fails on. My phone is currently plugged in with no use apart from checking email, browsing and using built in twitter and some apps. Would be nice to have a phone I can use for a full day.

    And just to confirm, you get A2DP when playing videos with either of these, right?
    03-09-2012 12:47 PM
  6. eric12341's Avatar
    Go for the radar,the no tethering on the lumia is a big flaw,especially since you're paying for it.
    03-09-2012 01:08 PM
  7. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Prices not considered, I would go for the Radar. FFC, slightly bigger screen and superior battery all trump a faster processor, especially since the Radar is still uber-speedy. I just played with one today and it's sweet. Plus you can get a case for it, and HTC bundles some great apps also. I have an HD7 and the HTC Hub is the best weather app on the platform imo. And there's also the sound enhancer for some much needed audio tweaking. Not to mention the tethering... I'm currently considering a 710 as my next phone, but because 1 It's off-contract price is $115 lower than the Radar (here in Canada) and 2 My carrier won't push the tethering update for my HD7 so I have no reason to believe they'll support it on the Radar.
    03-09-2012 04:03 PM
  8. cedarlog's Avatar
    Thanks, thats another thing the DVP fails on. My phone is currently plugged in with no use apart from checking email, browsing and using built in twitter and some apps. Would be nice to have a phone I can use for a full day.

    And just to confirm, you get A2DP when playing videos with either of these, right?
    both have A2DP
    HTC Radar Product Overview - HTC Smartphones
    Nokia Lumia 710 Specifications - Nokia - USA
    Nokia Lumia 710 - Full phone specifications
    Last edited by torchxit; 03-09-2012 at 05:10 PM.
    03-09-2012 04:59 PM
  9. brad4560's Avatar
    The pros's and con's for each phone are pretty spelled out here. I looked at the radar as well, but was sold on the 710 after playing with it at the t mo store, it just seemed like the right phone for me, no need for a front facing camera, and the quality isn't cheap I feel. and it is snappy as ****!. hope you make the right choice for your phone needs.
    03-09-2012 09:34 PM
  10. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Also on the battery issue there is apparently a 1500mah battery (mugen) that uses the stock back cover.
    03-10-2012 08:49 AM
  11. theefman's Avatar
    I meant when playing videos, Gen 1 devices could not stream audio plwhen playing videos.

    I went and had a look at a tmo store compared to the Nokia, it is definitely better built. If I can get one cheap enough from eBay I may jump.
    03-12-2012 09:14 AM
  12. dtboos's Avatar
    The radar is a very nice phone. Only 8GB of storage on board, but same with the Lumia 710. I'd get the radar and slap a colored case on it like this:

    Amazon.com: htc radar argyle gel

    Radar has: Tethering, FFC, good screen.
    Lumia 710 has: Better screen, a bit faster camera, and the Nokia apps.

    So its a hard decision. If need tethering, Radar it is. Nokia apps alone make the 710 worth it, but its fast camera and clear screen are also big selling points.

    *edited for accuracy*
    Last edited by dtboos; 03-12-2012 at 10:35 AM.
    03-12-2012 10:10 AM
  13. speedtouch's Avatar
    ... Plus the radar has 4G data speed where the lumia does not. Nokia apps alone make the 710 worth it, but its fast camera and clear screen are also big selling points.
    The Lumia 710 definitely has 4G data.
    03-12-2012 10:17 AM
  14. dtboos's Avatar
    The Lumia 710 definitely has 4G data.
    I stand corrected. Thanks
    03-12-2012 10:35 AM
  15. speedtouch's Avatar
    I stand corrected. Thanks
    No worries and you're welcome.
    03-12-2012 11:10 AM
  16. gwydionjhr's Avatar
    Tethering is coming to the 710. The rumours say the same time the 900 (finally) hits the shelves.
    03-12-2012 03:57 PM
  17. theefman's Avatar
    Tethering is coming to the 710. The rumours say the same time the 900 (finally) hits the shelves.
    But then there will be the additional wait till it hits carrier branded devices, like Tmo's. Dont think its been updated past 7720 IIRC, and it will be frustrating waiting for an update for a feature I intend to use.

    Very tempted, but the colour keeps holding me back, dont want to look like an iclone, do I? :)
    03-12-2012 05:15 PM
  18. dtboos's Avatar
    Very tempted, but the colour keeps holding me back, dont want to look like an iclone, do I? :)
    You'll never look like an iClone with a Windows Phone. MS is the only one actually doing something "different" at this point.
    03-12-2012 06:09 PM
  19. theefman's Avatar
    OK, so a question on upgrades for Tmo users, I dont normally buy contract phones so I'm not sure if this will work.

    I have 2 lines on my account, my line is up for an upgrade so I can get the Radar for $99. The other line is up for an upgrade in December and has a Blackberry on it. Will there be any problem using the upgrade on the second line for a new high end WP handset (if there ever is one) and using that phone on my line? Both lines now have data plans on them so does that help?

    I also found a site which will help with my preference for a darker colour, Cell Phone Skins | Laptop Skins | iPod Skins | Custom Skins - Unique Skins, so for a few bucks more I can have a device more to my liking.
    03-13-2012 07:40 PM
  20. speedtouch's Avatar
    OK, so a question on upgrades for Tmo users, I dont normally buy contract phones so I'm not sure if this will work.

    I have 2 lines on my account, my line is up for an upgrade so I can get the Radar for $99. The other line is up for an upgrade in December and has a Blackberry on it. Will there be any problem using the upgrade on the second line for a new high end WP handset (if there ever is one) and using that phone on my line? Both lines now have data plans on them so does that help?

    I also found a site which will help with my preference for a darker colour, Cell Phone Skins | Laptop Skins | iPod Skins | Custom Skins - Unique Skins, so for a few bucks more I can have a device more to my liking.
    As best I know, since T-Mobile is a GSM carrier, you should be able to switch out phones any way you please. I don't buy contract phones, either.
    03-13-2012 09:05 PM
  21. eric12341's Avatar
    When T-mobile completes the refarm of their 3G/4G network we will be able to use any AT&T branded or unlocked GSM phone.
    03-13-2012 09:14 PM
  22. ubizmo's Avatar
    My main phone is a BB 9900,but I put the SIM in the Radar quite often and it works fine.

    Incidentally, the Radar has great battery life, due to a bigger battery than the Lumia.


    Sent from my Radar 4G using Board Express
    03-13-2012 10:21 PM
  23. theefman's Avatar
    When T-mobile completes the refarm of their 3G/4G network we will be able to use any AT&T branded or unlocked GSM phone.
    Yes, but they say that will be over the next two years, not going to happen quickly enough.
    03-13-2012 10:51 PM
  24. theefman's Avatar
    And the verdict is in, its the Radar by a mile! Even though I'm a Nokia fan and would have jumped on a 900, the 710 in comparison just did not seem worth it compared to the Radar. Right now the Radar has tethering (coming to the 710 who knows when), FFC (just hooked up with an old friend back in the UK so I will use that occasionally), build (it really does feel good), and slightly bigger screen.

    I have the same amount of applications and music as I had on my DVP and still have 3GB left so unless I go mad trying to shoot another Spielberg epic I should be ok for storage till the real devices show up later this year. Ultilately it feels like a decent switch from my Dell. Thanks for all the input.
    03-19-2012 10:00 AM
  25. jabtano's Avatar
    I use an HD7 my wide the Lumia 710 she got ride of her HD7 frankly the 710 blows away the HD7 in speed, visual , camera, it's not the right screen size for me but when I do use it I enjoy it .. I was really hopping Nokia and T-MO would have a little more love for better WP7 devices. other than middle range stuff. no way will i switch to AT&T. I would buy an Android device before I did that sort of move.
    03-19-2012 11:45 AM
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