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  1. eggdrop's Avatar
    So I am thinking about signing up for a music service and these are the two that seem to make sense. Now on one hand I was really leaning towards ZunePass because of the integration with WP7. On the other hand I was thinking about maybe Spotify because than me & my wife could use it on or respective devices, Lumia and a 4s. Anyone have experience with this dilemma? Will we both be able to use Spotify at the same time on two different devices? Is it only able to log in by using Facebook? Thanks for any help in advance.
    04-06-2012 11:29 PM
  2. tbonecopper's Avatar
    AFAIK - Spotify's system keeps track of streaming sources, and won't let you stream on 2 devices simultaneously. That doesn't mean you couldn't use your subscription on 2 devices... it would be similar to sharing your children post divorce..

    e.g. Wife listens to Spotify on way to work... you listen on the way home. (or similar.)

    Spotify does have a private credentials login, so you don't have to authenticate it with FaceBook, if you don't want to.

    IMO - ZunePass is a better deal, since you can download tracks to your computer, stream on multiple sources simultaneously (e.g. WP7, Xbox, and your PC)... that said, you have an iPhone in the mix, and there's no Zune client for iPhone. Downloads from Zune Marketplace won't play on the iPhone, since they are DRM'ed. (unless you buy your tracks)

    Hope that helps!
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    04-06-2012 11:38 PM
  3. N8ter's Avatar
    ZunePass was a better deal back when they gave you free tracks every month. Now, I'd rather use Spotify which works better on multiple platforms.
    04-06-2012 11:41 PM
  4. eggdrop's Avatar
    Ok so I just put the app on my Lumia and my Focus S and had them both playing at the same time. When I hit play on the second device the firs one paused. But once I hit play right up. Something happened when I hit play on the PC client. Does that mean it will work in the way I am tying to use it? I can't pay for two subs and I will not sub if I am the only once enjoying the music.

    Also, what did you mean I can login with something other than FaceBook?

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express
    04-06-2012 11:58 PM
  5. Mitlov's Avatar
    Does Spotify allow you to download music for free (admittedly DRM-laden), or just stream it? One of the great things about Zune is that I can put albums on my phone, plug my phone into the aux-in jack, and listen for hours on end without burning up my data plan.
    04-07-2012 12:02 AM
  6. cdook's Avatar
    Doesn't Spotify have an offline mode? You can download DRMed tracks to the phone and play them back later.

    I think you need to have your wife make the switch from an iPhone to Windows Phone.
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    04-07-2012 12:06 AM
  7. tbonecopper's Avatar
    Ok so I just put the app on my Lumia and my Focus S and had them both playing at the same time. When I hit play on the second device the firs one paused. But once I hit play right up. Something happened when I hit play on the PC client. Does that mean it will work in the way I am tying to use it? I can't pay for two subs and I will not sub if I am the only once enjoying the music.

    Also, what did you mean I can login with something other than FaceBook?

    Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express

    I can't promise you it will work the way you want. Spotify has security measures in place to prevent people from sharing a premium subscription and using it simultaneously on multiple devices. How effective their measures are, I'm not sure.

    As far as logging in with Spotify credentials see this screen shot from the Spotify USA Home page:



    You should be able to login to Spotify using the credentials you setup with your subscription/account, or have them sent to you :)
    04-07-2012 12:10 AM
  8. tbonecopper's Avatar
    Does Spotify allow you to download music for free (admittedly DRM-laden), or just stream it? One of the great things about Zune is that I can put albums on my phone, plug my phone into the aux-in jack, and listen for hours on end without burning up my data plan.

    Spotify Premium (9.99 USD/Month) allows offline downloads, yes.


    (mods: I didn't double post for a higher posting number... that question above came in while I was writing the other, and I've not mastered the art of multi quote on vBulletin yet; feel free to merge!)
    04-07-2012 12:12 AM
  9. eggdrop's Avatar
    Ok upon further inspection of looks like it would get annoying the whole pausing thing. It pauses basically whenever a new track starts. So that means if we happen to both be using it at the sam time it will get old fast. Now, if I go premium we can make offline playlists just like what you are explaining with the Zune pass.

    I wish I could have her make the switch but she lies her iPhone because of the games. She's a big Tap Tap fan. I don't mind as she has followed me on all my other OS switches and I cannot blame her for getting tired of it.

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    04-07-2012 12:17 AM
  10. tbonecopper's Avatar
    You could always get 2 Spotify subscriptions, even a hybrid of premium (for offline downloads) and unlimited for unlimited streaming.

    Or one for the Misses and a yearly Zune Pass for you (which is cheaper than 12 months @ 9.99)
    04-07-2012 12:21 AM
  11. eggdrop's Avatar
    I see that both offer a free trial. I just got the 30 day Spotify trial activated and running on my Lumia. I have already made a playlist that I have stored locally and I will use this for the month and see how I like it. I will then activate the ZunePass for the 14 day trial and see how it compares.

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    04-07-2012 12:25 AM
  12. rockstarzzz's Avatar
    Someone mentioned you can stream on multiple devices with Zune which is only partially TRUE. It can't be simultaneously either. You can stream on PC, phone Xbox but one at a time. I use Zune pass and cannot see myself without it anymore. Its easy to find whole albums on Zune whereas when I did Spotify premium for two months I had to add song by song if I wanted to avoid duplication. It was easy to add all Spotify songs to my Zune collection as I download songs via Xbox and sync my phone with it. SmartDJ in Zune is the most appealing feature! I've discovered so many songs and artists via that.

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    04-07-2012 03:59 AM
  13. dannejanne's Avatar
    I would definitely get a Zune Pass.

    I cancelled my Spotify subscription yesterday after being subscribed for like two years.

    Why? Their mobile apps are utter crap! For every system. WP app is probably the among the worst. Sound stutters often and makes annoying clicky noises. The app closes sometimes when playing new song and then it can take like 10 seconds to open again. It lags a lot. You can't fast forward/rewind. You can't sort playlists. Much of the music ain't high quality.

    With a Zune Pass you get to use the Zune player in your phone which is 100 times better as a music player than Spotify ever will be. Their mobile apps are just crap and unstable. Not usable as music players.

    When having 500+ songs in a playlist as I had in Spotify. There's no way I can find individual songs. All songs are listed as they were added. Try finding that in the list without any search/sorting options!
    Last edited by dannejanne; 04-08-2012 at 04:28 AM.
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    04-08-2012 02:55 AM
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    04-09-2012 02:29 AM
  15. Kahuna Cowboy's Avatar
    I love Zune Pass for its "prettiness" with visuals on WP. Also its library is on par with Spotify, at least for the music I listen to which is rock, country, and classic rock and classic country.

    But, I prefer Spotify for its multiplatform abilities since my work computer is a Mac, and my 2nd phone is an iPhone. I also like its integration with iTunes to import in my existing playlists as well as import my iTunes library for artists like AC/DC and Bob Seger who are not found on any streaming service.

    Now for the downsides to both. I don't like how locked down Zune Pass is to just Microsoft stuff, I live in a cross platform world as many do and Zune Pass does not play nice with that. I also do not like the Zune PC software, I feel like they went for form over function there, its just not that fluid to use.

    Spotify in the other hand has a very nice and useable interface, but their apps are garbage. I mean they are really bad to the point of unusable! The WP app is a little better than the iOS app but that's not saying much as the iOS app is a sick joke.

    So after using both services quite a bit I still subscribe to Spotify and not to Zune Pass as the cross platform ability and its integration with my iTunes library and playlists beat out Zune Pass's visual appeal on WP.

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    04-09-2012 02:47 AM
  16. oral2012's Avatar
    ZunePass was a better deal back when they gave you free tracks every month
    04-09-2012 05:30 AM
  17. Verkunder's Avatar
    I love Zune Pass for its "prettiness" with visuals on WP. Also its library is on par with Spotify, at least for the music I listen to which is rock, country, and classic rock and classic country.

    But, I prefer Spotify for its multiplatform abilities since my work computer is a Mac, and my 2nd phone is an iPhone. I also like its integration with iTunes to import in my existing playlists as well as import my iTunes library for artists like AC/DC and Bob Seger who are not found on any streaming service.

    Now for the downsides to both. I don't like how locked down Zune Pass is to just Microsoft stuff, I live in a cross platform world as many do and Zune Pass does not play nice with that. I also do not like the Zune PC software, I feel like they went for form over function there, its just not that fluid to use.

    Spotify in the other hand has a very nice and useable interface, but their apps are garbage. I mean they are really bad to the point of unusable! The WP app is a little better than the iOS app but that's not saying much as the iOS app is a sick joke.

    So after using both services quite a bit I still subscribe to Spotify and not to Zune Pass as the cross platform ability and its integration with my iTunes library and playlists beat out Zune Pass's visual appeal on WP.

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    You're telling me you think iTunes is more fluid than the Zune software? I think I see pigs flying outside.

    Also, by logging into Zune.net, you can stream songs through the website, overcoming the Mac problem.
    04-09-2012 07:14 AM
  18. inteller's Avatar
    if Zune would integrate better into social networks like Spotify it would be a no brainer. as it is right now i see it as a toss up. Zune is a better experience on WP7, but Spotify is more social.
    04-09-2012 07:41 AM
  19. Kahuna Cowboy's Avatar
    You're telling me you think iTunes is more fluid than the Zune software? I think I see pigs flying outside.

    Also, by logging into Zune.net, you can stream songs through the website, overcoming the Mac problem.
    Yes, I think iTunes is easier to find and search through my owned library then Zune can. I'm not saying iTunes is better or worse, iTunes certainly has its flaws. I personally can work iTunes easier than I can Zune. It just seems more intuitive to me, perhaps because I've used it for years. But personally I also find Google Play's music locker easier to use too so I really don't think it's a deep rooted love for iTunes or anything, I just find the Zune interface cluttered and not as intuitive as other interfaces.

    Yes, I can stream from the browser with Zune Pass. But not being able to download locally for offline playback is still an issue there for me.
    04-09-2012 02:49 PM
  20. Brunothesheep's Avatar
    eggdrop, I'd suggest getting your wife her own WP and signing up with Zune ;)

    To be perfectly honest though, I found Spotify too clunky and unfinished, so I uninstalled it pretty much 10 minutes after installing it >.<
    04-09-2012 03:47 PM
  21. Duvi's Avatar
    From what I hear, Spotify is good for finding all types of music and/or music from countries aside the U.S.. This girl came in to my store the other day and purchased a Photon 4G... she stated she used Spotify and that she found lots of artists she would never have thought to listen to.
    04-30-2012 01:23 AM
  22. dannejanne's Avatar
    Yeah that's pretty much the bottom line.

    Spotify has a extremely big library. Biggest of them all. But their mobile apps are utter crap.

    Zune has not as big library. You get to use the Zune player though. That makes all the difference to me.

    It was now about two weeks ago since I cancelled my Spotify subscription and got a Zune Pass instead. Boy am I glad I finally did it. Spotify will never be allowed on my WP nor Android phone again.
    04-30-2012 01:33 AM
  23. N8ter's Avatar
    You're telling me you think iTunes is more fluid than the Zune software? I think I see pigs flying outside.

    Also, by logging into Zune.net, you can stream songs through the website, overcoming the Mac problem.
    iTunes is a fully fledged WMP replacement. Zune desktop software is rudimentary at best. That's what he meant. I prefer iTunes as well. It does more. I prefer WMP to both iTunes and Zune, though, since I prefer it's Win7 libraries integration and MTP support for other device types.


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    04-30-2012 07:35 AM
  24. bear_lx's Avatar
    AFAIK - Spotify's system keeps track of streaming sources, and won't let you stream on 2 devices simultaneously. That doesn't mean you couldn't use your subscription on 2 devices... it would be similar to sharing your children post divorce..

    e.g. Wife listens to Spotify on way to work... you listen on the way home. (or similar.)

    Spotify does have a private credentials login, so you don't have to authenticate it with FaceBook, if you don't want to.

    IMO - ZunePass is a better deal, since you can download tracks to your computer, stream on multiple sources simultaneously (e.g. WP7, Xbox, and your PC)... that said, you have an iPhone in the mix, and there's no Zune client for iPhone. Downloads from Zune Marketplace won't play on the iPhone, since they are DRM'ed. (unless you buy your tracks)

    Hope that helps!
    they will play if you buy them, just not for the subscription service, as you wouldnt really own the songs, just renting them.
    04-30-2012 10:05 AM
  25. bear_lx's Avatar
    iTunes is a fully fledged WMP replacement. Zune desktop software is rudimentary at best. That's what he meant. I prefer iTunes as well. It does more. I prefer WMP to both iTunes and Zune, though, since I prefer it's Win7 libraries integration and MTP support for other device types.


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    i never understood all the complaints about the zune desktop software? it is smooth as a babys slippery behind for me! itunes is a mess. i still use both since my wife has an iphone 4, and i dread having to sync her phone. all the files i delete from my pc, zune recognizes this and removes them from my library. itunes doesnt... it tells me the file is missing, and asks if i want to locate it? not too mention genius playlist is awful. smart dj on zune is amazing. last but definately not least... the UI of zune software is beautiful! itunes is extremely dated. and is completely bogged down for PC users. zune FTW

    ZUNE >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itunes

    not to turn this thread into a zune vs itunes debate, but had to shed some light on that comment... as far as spotify goes, i would use zune. but if it is imperative you are able to listen to music on both devices, consider rhapsody... as you would be able to listen to the music on both devices simotaniously... otherwise, convince her to get a wp... i am still working on my wife... once apollo hits, she will have a windows phone, gauranteed
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    04-30-2012 10:15 AM
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