04-23-2012 06:53 AM
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  1. canesfan625's Avatar
    I'm with you all the way on that. Recently, some security expert described Facebook as a man-in-the-middle attack against your private life, and I feel the same way about all this "cloud" nonsense. Potentially - with a slight brush of your hand in the camera settings, you could end up hosting all of your private photographs on a remote server that is accessible from the internet 24/7.

    I had a brief exchange with a Windows developer who shared my concerns, she thought that we are just one news story away from waking people up to the potential dangers. I very much agree. Of course, this stuff is not exclusive to Windows phones, but MS seems overly enthusiastic about getting your stuff onto their servers.

    Itunes sucks just as badly IMO. I removed it 10 minutes after the first install and found a free alternative that was simple, intuitive and slim.
    What about Google releasing a Mobile OS that's web based?

    http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/19/m...boot-to-gecko/
    04-20-2012 02:55 PM
  2. BackToAndroid's Avatar
    Count me as one of the people who will be glad to see Zune go away...although I suppose it depends on what takes its place. I've never used iTunes, so I'm unmoved by the claim that Zune is "way better" than iTunes.
    I'd rate them about the same: Bloated, unintuitive and unnecessary.
    04-20-2012 02:59 PM
  3. canesfan625's Avatar
    I'd rate them about the same: Bloated, unintuitive and unnecessary.
    Zune isn't nearly as bloated is iTunes. Not even close.
    04-20-2012 03:00 PM
  4. BackToAndroid's Avatar
    What about Google releasing a Mobile OS that's web based?

    Mozilla: Brazilians to get first phones running Boot to Gecko -- Engadget
    I wouldn't use it. I don't see any need, or benefit from it.
    04-20-2012 03:03 PM
  5. HifiGuy900's Avatar
    New Zune user. Am I missing something with the Zune player on the Lumia 900? The music player seems to have no place to change to the equalization settings such as Rock, Pop, Jazz etc. The one built in is pretty boring.
    04-21-2012 06:56 PM
  6. canesfan625's Avatar
    New Zune user. Am I missing something with the Zune player on the Lumia 900? The music player seems to have no place to change to the equalization settings such as Rock, Pop, Jazz etc. The one built in is pretty boring.
    I think the Zune HD was the only device to have an equalizer and it sucked. Software equalizers/plugins seem to always add some kinda horrible '3D' effect. Stock sound probably isn't nearly as bad as stock ear buds. I don't think Nokia has an app like HTC does but you aren't missing much if it would be the same quality.
    04-21-2012 07:04 PM
  7. johnmcd348's Avatar
    My HTC has the SRS sound enhancement option but only when you have something plugged into the headphones jack. I think it works OK. I have a set of amplifies Walkman(remember those) speakers that I use to listen to my podcasts and such in the garage.
    04-21-2012 08:50 PM
  8. HifiGuy900's Avatar
    I think the Zune HD was the only device to have an equalizer and it sucked. Software equalizers/plugins seem to always add some kinda horrible '3D' effect. Stock sound probably isn't nearly as bad as stock ear buds. I don't think Nokia has an app like HTC does but you aren't missing much if it would be the same quality.
    Ooh, coming from an iPhone, this kind of sucks. Now I keep my iPhone for music and Lumia 900 for the rest. If only it had this feature and I would have to keep just the Lumia with me. It would have been a much cleaner transition.
    04-21-2012 09:40 PM
  9. canesfan625's Avatar
    Ooh, coming from an iPhone, this kind of sucks. Now I keep my iPhone for music and Lumia 900 for the rest. If only it had this feature and I would have to keep just the Lumia with me. It would have been a much cleaner transition.
    From what I understand the Lumia is good as is its just the earbuds you get are garbage.
    04-22-2012 02:31 PM
  10. freestaterocker's Avatar
    Ooh, coming from an iPhone, this kind of sucks. Now I keep my iPhone for music and Lumia 900 for the rest. If only it had this feature and I would have to keep just the Lumia with me. It would have been a much cleaner transition.
    Yeah it's probably the cheap headphones. I tried the headphones that came with my wife's iPhone and HOLY CRAP it sounded good. Apple seems to be the only OEM out there that seems to realize people LISTEN TO MUSIC on their phones.
    04-22-2012 04:55 PM
  11. reelon's Avatar
    To be honest I didn't find the sound on the lumia to be that great, I like better the sound of the titan. One of the things from android that is miss is poweramp, such a great app for music.

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    04-22-2012 05:02 PM
  12. jbjtkbw007's Avatar
    Hold the phone (so to speak).....anyone that knows ANYTHING about audio knows that the earbuds included with Apple products are some of the worst that you can listen to. Any audiophile will attest to this. You'll do (somewhat) better with a $20 set. Better yet, go for headphones around the sweet spot of $100 to get some quality sound without breaking the bank. Just please don't use those cheapos as a reference. They're crap. You're doing your ears and music a real disservice.
    willied likes this.
    04-22-2012 05:18 PM
  13. willied's Avatar
    With all the hate for Zune it seems like some of you have never even used Zune or at least given it a chance. When I first started using Zune I didn't think I was fond of it. Fast forward to now, and I don't know what I would do without it. It's one of the biggest reasons I have a Windows Phone. It IS at least a hundred times better than iTunes and it has more functionality as well. Sure, it could use a few tweaks, but nothing huge. It even allows you to sync anything with anyone's WP or Zune, which iTunes does not without reformatting the device.

    Now maybe WP should have the option to just use it as a drive for drag and drop, but there are probably valid reasons as to why it doesn't.
    gapost likes this.
    04-22-2012 05:34 PM
  14. textomatic's Avatar
    Hey, I don't buy an iPhone because of iTunes. I think the phone is great. I just hate iTunes. And I do enjoy Zune and use it almost every day. But I really do believe the phone should not be tied to the Zune software. It's just harder for me to recommend a Windows Phone to friends knowing that they probably will also have to abandon their music library software of choice for Zune. And while I love Zune and think it's great, they might not. It's a big commitment changing your music catalog software of choice. If you have a big music collection it's a big deal!!! Thankfully WP8 will not be tied to Zune and it will be easier for me to recommend my favorite mobile platform.

    I also wanted to say that most audiophiles will tell you not to listen to music with digital EQs altering the sound. You should listen to music at its default setting the way the artist/audio engineer meant for it to be heard. Then again we compress our music into MP3 format so we are loosing audio quality anyway. I hope Windows Phone 8 supports FLAC which I believe is suppose to be better than MP3.
    04-22-2012 05:58 PM
  15. willied's Avatar
    I also wanted to say that most audiophiles will tell you not to listen to music with digital EQs altering the sound. You should listen to music at its default setting the way the artist/audio engineer meant for it to be heard. Then again we compress our music into MP3 format so we are loosing audio quality anyway. I hope Windows Phone 8 supports FLAC which I believe is suppose to be better than MP3.
    This is true. FLAC is better than MP3 as it is lossless. But even high bitrate (320Kbps) MP3s are quite good and it's very hard to tell the difference, especially on cheap headphones. WMA Lossless is CD quality (and Zune supports it), but it takes up a lot of space (~300Mb versus ~50Mb for a 128Kbps MP3 album).

    And as far as the HTC Sound Enhancer goes, the SRS setting gives you a lot of artificial bass, making the music muddier and unlike how the artist intended it (though there is the case where the album wasn't properly mixed and it needs more bass, etc.).
    04-22-2012 06:19 PM
  16. HifiGuy900's Avatar
    Hold the phone (so to speak).....anyone that knows ANYTHING about audio knows that the earbuds included with Apple products are some of the worst that you can listen to. Any audiophile will attest to this. You'll do (somewhat) better with a $20 set. Better yet, go for headphones around the sweet spot of $100 to get some quality sound without breaking the bank. Just please don't use those cheapos as a reference. They're crap. You're doing your ears and music a real disservice.
    Just to clarify, I did not use the Lumia with the iPhone headphone nor did I imply it. My headphones are all audiophile quality (Audio-Technica ATH-M50 and Denon DH-7000). The one I use with the iPhone is the AT which sounds fantastic with it, and appalling on the Lumia. The need for an EQ is because the default output in Lumia is not the best I'm used to and am looking to change the frequencies to something I may like. Without luck anyway. Most of my streaming music is in FLAC and if one were to add them to the Lumia, you can have 4-5 albums and thats it. Not a good choice with limited storage space.

    Other than the audio I love the rest of the phone.
    04-22-2012 09:18 PM
  17. willied's Avatar
    Just to clarify, I did not use the Lumia with the iPhone headphone nor did I imply it. My headphones are all audiophile quality (Audio-Technica ATH-M50 and Denon DH-7000). The one I use with the iPhone is the AT which sounds fantastic with it, and appalling on the Lumia. The need for an EQ is because the default output in Lumia is not the best I'm used to and am looking to change the frequencies to something I may like. Without luck anyway. Most of my streaming music is in FLAC and if one were to add them to the Lumia, you can have 4-5 albums and thats it. Not a good choice with limited storage space.

    Other than the audio I love the rest of the phone.
    I think he was referring to freestaterocker, but that is a shame the audio isn't nearly as good on the Lumia.
    04-22-2012 10:33 PM
  18. Judge_Daniel's Avatar
    I didn't know people had trouble with Zune. It has actually been easier for me than syncing stuff to my WinMo6.5 phone (which was dragging and dropping of folders). You plug the phone into your computer and then drag and drop whatever music you want onto the little phone icon in the bottom left corner. The reason I find it easier, is that I can also drag and drop music into playlists by dragging and dropping music onto the playlist icon and then dragging that playlist onto the phone icon, thus syncing all the music I need on my phone at any time. It is also simply more beautiful. I'd much rather just look at album covers than folders with names under them.
    04-22-2012 11:56 PM
  19. jbjtkbw007's Avatar
    I think he was referring to freestaterocker, but that is a shame the audio isn't nearly as good on the Lumia.
    Thanks for pointing out who that was directed at.

    And really, I'd hope that someone with the s/n HiFiGuy900 would already know better and I'd obviously not be directing my comment at them ;-).
    04-23-2012 05:24 AM
  20. Verkunder's Avatar
    It's just harder for me to recommend a Windows Phone to friends knowing that they probably will also have to abandon their music library software of choice for Zune.
    The only time you have to use Zune is to sync stuff to and from your phone. Otherwise, you can sort all your music with whatever software you want. You can even set Zune to automatically sync whenever you connect a device, so you don't even have to look at it if you don't want to.
    04-23-2012 06:53 AM
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