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  1. socialcarpet's Avatar
    I'm using my Optimus 7 since September 2011 and I love my Windows Phone.

    It's weird, but the only thing that gets me down are the constant waves of unfair negative articles about Windows Phone, and all the trolls doing their thing on the forums.
    I'm with you on that.

    I love Windows Phone too, but the recent wave of biased, negative reviews and some of the trollish or negative stuff on the forums can be a bit go a drag.

    All that aside, I really love my phone (Lumia 900) and I'm excited to see what the future holds for Windows Phone.

    I'm really grateful to Microsoft for doing such a great job on WP, but especially for doing their own thing with a completely original take on the UI. That, I think is was made WP such an appealing 3rd choice for me. The icon grid thing has been done to death. With Windows Phone, I get choices of different hardware, like Android and I get a clean, cohesive UI and high standards for app quality and safety like iOS. I also get something else neither of them offer, an intuitive UI that does more than just serve up bunches of app icons, but actually gives me lots of different ways to interact with my information and to communicate with people, all inside the OS, without needing a bunch of disparate apps for each function.

    I truly believe Windows Phone is just now coming into it's own and when more people get a look at it, a chance to play around with it and see what it can do, there will be a slow but steady growth in players on our team.
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    05-05-2012 08:01 PM
  2. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm with you on that.

    I love Windows Phone too, but the recent wave of biased, negative reviews and some of the trollish or negative stuff on the forums can be a bit go a drag.

    All that aside, I really love my phone (Lumia 900) and I'm excited to see what the future holds for Windows Phone.

    I'm really grateful to Microsoft for doing such a great job on WP, but especially for doing their own thing with a completely original take on the UI. That, I think is was made WP such an appealing 3rd choice for me. The icon grid thing has been done to death. With Windows Phone, I get choices of different hardware, like Android and I get a clean, cohesive UI and high standards for app quality and safety like iOS. I also get something else neither of them offer, an intuitive UI that does more than just serve up bunches of app icons, but actually gives me lots of different ways to interact with my information and to communicate with people, all inside the OS, without needing a bunch of disparate apps for each function.

    I truly believe Windows Phone is just now coming into it's own and when more people get a look at it, a chance to play around with it and see what it can do, there will be a slow but steady growth in players on our team.
    You ain't kidding. There is so much hate and haters on these boards that it's hard to navigate through posts without having to filter through ridiculous posts. You're spot on regarding the OS coming into its own now but the word has to get out. Too many people gawk at my phone and ask "wow, what phone is that?" Glad at least for Nokia's ad campaign. :)
    05-05-2012 08:13 PM
  3. socialcarpet's Avatar
    Yeah I can't quite figure out why people come here to complain...

    I had an LG Android phone before this which was... problematic. I didn't go to LG forums or Android forums and vomit my frustrations all over them. I did research to try to fix the issues. I tried dealing with LG and my carrier for solutions. Unfortunately LG is nowhere near as responsible as Nokia when it comes to actually supporting their own products and I got nowhere. No software updates. No fixes. No apologies. Nothing.

    In the end, I decided Android in general (and certainly LG) were not for me. But nowhere along the line did I feel compelled to go and crap all over some Android forum. Nor did I think I would be "helping" LG or Google to improve things by griping and moaning all over some Internet message board.

    It's one thing if you have a question or need some advice, but just to vent frustrations... eh.. I don't get it.
    05-05-2012 08:39 PM
  4. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    Read much? I think he mentioned he was coming from an iPhone and he asks if anyone actually owns an Android. It makes sense that carriers would try to push Androids if they're virtually non-existent. I find it odd that there would be so few in Australia if Android is reportedly the most ubiquitous OS worldwide.
    Well sorry for misunderstanding. when I first read it I thought it was an actual question about whether many people own an Android here in he US.
    05-05-2012 09:09 PM
  5. fatclue_98's Avatar
    Yeah I can't quite figure out why people come here to complain...

    I had an LG Android phone before this which was... problematic. I didn't go to LG forums or Android forums and vomit my frustrations all over them. I did research to try to fix the issues. I tried dealing with LG and my carrier for solutions. Unfortunately LG is nowhere near as responsible as Nokia when it comes to actually supporting their own products and I got nowhere. No software updates. No fixes. No apologies. Nothing.

    In the end, I decided Android in general (and certainly LG) were not for me. But nowhere along the line did I feel compelled to go and crap all over some Android forum. Nor did I think I would be "helping" LG or Google to improve things by griping and moaning all over some Internet message board.

    It's one thing if you have a question or need some advice, but just to vent frustrations... eh.. I don't get it.
    Ever since November of 2008 this country, as a whole, has become very divided in the sense that a lot of people have adopted the mantra of "either you're with us or against us". I hate to interject politics but I'm older than your average tech junkie and I've seen and experienced quite a lot in my almost 50 years. Almost. Young people have this sense of entitlement that just blows my mind and start belly-aching about anything if they don't get their just rewards. I blame the parents mostly but the media has their hands very dirty as well. Anywho, I try to resolve problems on my own as you do and sometimes I have to share my experiences so that others won't follow in my path. By doing this I seem to encourage the haters out of the woodwork who have to chime in with dumbass comments like "Yeah, Samsung sucks" or "iPhone is so much better" instead of posting a solution. It seems it's easier and requires less energy to bash than to help. Oh well, that's the end of my rant; where's my Grape Nuts and prune juice?
    05-05-2012 09:10 PM
  6. mhans311's Avatar
    Um...yea this isn't the topic of the thread. Posts like these kill the mood and ruin the community, this is one of the first positive threads I seen on this site besides all the doom and gloom ones. Anyway I can't imagine myself on any other OS other than WP and picking up my moms android or my sisters iPod touch reminds me of this.
    Actually this is exactly the topic of the thread. The title is asking if you still love your WP. He said he is thinking of switching to android. What's wrong with that?

    As for me, I gave windows phone a go and I really enjoyed it. There were just a few things missing for me so I switched back to android. I am waiting to see what happens with apollo. I really hope WP takes off and fills in some of the gaps in the OS.

    Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
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    05-05-2012 09:35 PM
  7. willied's Avatar
    I love WP and I want to make babies with it.


    Too far?
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    05-05-2012 10:22 PM
  8. anotherhawkeye's Avatar
    I'm loving it. I'm an early adapter - I had smartphones before iphone and I had android before it was known as droid. Now I have WP. I'm in the fore front of technologies people and I pronounce WP a future winner.
    05-06-2012 12:37 AM
  9. snowmutt's Avatar
    I make no bones about how much I enjoy my Focus S and WP in general. The OS is not as mature as Android and iOS, and it is easy to find some things that those users have that they do not want to give up. But, I like to point out:

    Was Cupcake as good as ICS is on Android?

    Was the the OS on the 2nd iPhone as smooth as what it is on the 4/4S?

    The answers, of course, are both no. Just check out how much farther WP 7.5 is than the 2nd year of Android or iOS were. Microsoft took all the lesons they learned from Windows Mobile (mostly bad. My Samsung Blackjack was such a bad experience I went back to feature phones for a bit) and started over. They looked at what people really wanted to use their smartphones for - social media, entertainment, and business use. They focused on social media first, and are working on the other two. What they have done with WP they have done well.

    I am expecting great things with Apollo. This should be the OS they have been working to for 3 years. I cannot imagine going to Android or Apple unless they really, really disappoint with features or support. And if the jumps from the launch version of WP7 to the Nodo upgrade, and than the jump to Mango are any indications, it will be a great time to be a Metro UI owner!!!
    05-06-2012 12:44 AM
  10. snowmutt's Avatar
    I love WP and I want to make babies with it.


    Too far?
    Maybe just a little.....
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    05-06-2012 12:46 AM
  11. Jazmac's Avatar
    Yep. I love the fact that is just works. I don't have to constantly change it in order to re-respect it. If I need it, it's there. If I need info or directions, BOOM, I got it. Restaurants, movie times, quick internet on the go, done. Listen to music, I got it. Snap a quick photo, BOOM, got that too. Its consistently superior every time.
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    05-06-2012 01:20 AM
  12. baseballbert's Avatar
    I converted several months ago from webOS and I can't get over how smooth and intuitive this OS is. Windows Phone got such a bad rap because it conjures up images of Windows Mobile and people don't realize the difference is like Windows 7 and Windows Millenium Edition (whew, what a nightmare that was). It's good that Nokia is doing the media blitz they are because the word is getting out. Don't let the haters get under your skin, they are like having the crabs. The more you scratch your nuts, the happier they get. :D
    Love the crotch crickets reference!!!
    05-06-2012 01:42 AM
  13. AngryNil's Avatar
    Lol do they push Android? Because when I visited last year, my cousin and all his friends had iPhones, except for maybe one person.
    Australia has a ridiculous amount of iPhones (anecdotal, I'm from Melbourne just like troykm). I took a glance around the train the other day, and every single device I looked at was either an iPhone or iPod Touch.

    Android is pushed, the Galaxy S II was a pretty big winner (and it's now selling discounted). Android seems to be gaining adoption particularly among younger crowds - many models are more cost-effective and there's even a view from some that iPhones are too simplistic.

    Telstra (largest carrier here) is pushing the Lumia, it seems - I visited a local store and they have the white 800 on a dedicated booth, like the 4S.
    05-06-2012 05:55 AM
  14. Winterfang's Avatar
    Look guys, I'm not trying to ruin the topic. I was just answering the question.

    The thing is that I have a Lg Optimus 7, a phone that has average camera, no front facing camera, plain LCD 3.8 screen and a small battery (great for nodo but not made with mango in mind). I'm stuck with this phone until next year and I don't mind but I'm not sure if it's going to get the next update.

    Mango lacks a lot of features, my phone is plain 3g, the third party apps are terrible and expensive, there's no real turn by turn unless I have a Nokia phone.

    MY optimus screen is freezing so I can use everything but the screen. I need to get a replacement soon and its going to be either a Galaxy 2 or an iPhone 4. Maybe I'll be part of windows again when my contract ran out next year and Apollo devices will be plenty but I just want to use Pandora like normal people.
    05-06-2012 06:51 AM
  15. ubizmo's Avatar
    My HTC Radar is for sale on eBay. That's not because I dislike the WP platform. I think it's pretty good, and has a lot of potential. I bought it and used it for a few months to give it a fair trial. I'd recommend WP, and the Radar in particular, to a lot of people, but it had a few shortcomings that were problematic for me, specifically. These things come down to individual priorities. Things that are obstacles for me may be irrelevant to someone else.

    Case in point: The inability to set a default font size in the browser and then zoom and reflow text. For me, an eyeglass-wearing 58 year-old, this severely limits the usefulness of the browser. Turning the device to landscape orientation helps sometimes, but not always. So as a general thing, if I needed to do any significant amount of reading of text on web sites, I'd use my BB. And yes, I know that the iPhone doesn't have this feature either. That's one reason why I don't have an iPhone.

    As I say, I think WP has great potential, and I may return to it. But at this time, it doesn't make financial sense for me to have a phone that I'm mostly using to play Wordament, and doing most everything else on my BB 9900.

    It's not about love or hate; it's about finding what works.
    05-06-2012 08:01 AM
  16. socialcarpet's Avatar
    I make no bones about how much I enjoy my Focus S and WP in general. The OS is not as mature as Android and iOS, and it is easy to find some things that those users have that they do not want to give up. But, I like to point out:

    Was Cupcake as good as ICS is on Android?

    Was the the OS on the 2nd iPhone as smooth as what it is on the 4/4S?

    The answers, of course, are both no. Just check out how much farther WP 7.5 is than the 2nd year of Android or iOS were. Microsoft took all the lesons they learned from Windows Mobile (mostly bad. My Samsung Blackjack was such a bad experience I went back to feature phones for a bit) and started over. They looked at what people really wanted to use their smartphones for - social media, entertainment, and business use. They focused on social media first, and are working on the other two. What they have done with WP they have done well.

    I am expecting great things with Apollo. This should be the OS they have been working to for 3 years. I cannot imagine going to Android or Apple unless they really, really disappoint with features or support. And if the jumps from the launch version of WP7 to the Nodo upgrade, and than the jump to Mango are any indications, it will be a great time to be a Metro UI owner!!!
    This pretty much sums up how I feel. I was fully aware that there were a few compromises with WP7 because it's relatively new. In the end I made an informed decision, because every phone and phone OS has compromises. I had Android and really did not care for it. The iPhone had a certain appeal, but I don't care for the tiny screen or the fragile front and back glass construction. The lack of a back button really annoyed me and the UI just feels stale now.
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    05-06-2012 09:18 AM
  17. fatclue_98's Avatar
    This pretty much sums up how I feel. I was fully aware that there were a few compromises with WP7 because it's relatively new. In the end I made an informed decision, because every phone and phone OS has compromises. I had Android and really did not care for it. The iPhone had a certain appeal, but I don't care for the tiny screen or the fragile front and back glass construction. The lack of a back button really annoyed me and the UI just feels stale now.
    It's funny how two people can look at the same thing and come away with different impressions. I feel that WP7 is first, and foremost, an enterprise device that has had a massive infusion of social media integration to appeal to the consumer crowd. I missed Windows Mobile because of Office 2010. I didn't miss the negatives (and there were enough to fill a stadium) after Mango came along. Think about it, press one tile and you have access to Excel, Word, Powerpoint, Adobe PDF, SkyDrive, Office 365 and Sharepoint! How many 3rd party apps would you have to download to get all that on any other platform. Even if you could, would they all work cohesively together? Unless you had webOS's multi-tasking ability would you be able to switch between the different apps?

    Many of the complaints I see on these boards center around cameras and Skype functions and things of that nature. Not too many discussing the functions listed above, which strengthen my belief that the consumer crowd is getting the majority of the attention as the OS develops. WP7 is highly regarded as a secure platform and if they can get FIPS certification, I see no reason to continue on the Blackberry OS unless some old fuddy-duddy like myself insists on hardware keyboards (my DVP will go into the pine box with me). iOS, nice toys. I use a 4S at work because the company supplies them. To me, they're as useless as tits on a bull and I only use it as a phone. That's not a bash at Apple because my desktop at home is a very old eMac that I swear by.

    We all have to work very hard to buy the things we need. We work even harder to get the things we want. If Johnny buys an Android phone, more power to him. If Jimmy gets the shiniest new iPhone, so be it. I prefer WP7 and I'm lovin' it, don't beat me up over it or I'll have to come over to your house and recite Ezekiel 25:17. :)
    05-06-2012 10:51 AM
  18. mud314's Avatar
    This may sound silly/stupid to some of you. I have as my phone (not of choice) the iPhone 4. While trying to cut some $$$ of my monthly bills, I was going to go with T-Mo and the Nokia 710 on their unlimited data plan with 100 mins talk time. Well, I assumed that all of their phones supported WiFi Talk, they don't. Found the Nokia 710 on craigslist, signed up only to find out that there is no WiFi talk, no Tmo Service where I live at all. So, I have to stick to pricey VZ as they are the only co out here that provides service and stick to the iPhone 4. I am running a theme that makes it look like the Windows Phone 7 Os but the tiles while not static they are not my pictures etc. Also, not just nowhere near as fluid as the 710. So, I obviously use my iPhone for calls and messaging but I still find myself using the non-service 710 more for fun and reading my news and even responding to email since I do get email on it through wifi. So, I didn't save any money in the long run but I learned that I love WP7. It's just a more intuitive design. No we don't have Siri, but we have scout that PROBABLY has the answer to your question before you even ask it, now that's smart.
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    05-06-2012 11:28 AM
  19. cckgz4's Avatar
    Glad the topic is still decent and not full of people insulting each other

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    05-06-2012 12:16 PM
  20. eric12341's Avatar
    Ever since November of 2008 this country, as a whole, has become very divided in the sense that a lot of people have adopted the mantra of "either you're with us or against us". I hate to interject politics but I'm older than your average tech junkie and I've seen and experienced quite a lot in my almost 50 years. Almost. Young people have this sense of entitlement that just blows my mind and start belly-aching about anything if they don't get their just rewards. I blame the parents mostly but the media has their hands very dirty as well. Anywho, I try to resolve problems on my own as you do and sometimes I have to share my experiences so that others won't follow in my path. By doing this I seem to encourage the haters out of the woodwork who have to chime in with dumbass comments like "Yeah, Samsung sucks" or "iPhone is so much better" instead of posting a solution. It seems it's easier and requires less energy to bash than to help. Oh well, that's the end of my rant; where's my Grape Nuts and prune juice?
    Hate to break it to you, but things have been like that since before Obama was elected and I'm half your age whatever it is.
    Look guys, I'm not trying to ruin the topic. I was just answering the question.

    The thing is that I have a Lg Optimus 7, a phone that has average camera, no front facing camera, plain LCD 3.8 screen and a small battery (great for nodo but not made with mango in mind). I'm stuck with this phone until next year and I don't mind but I'm not sure if it's going to get the next update.

    Mango lacks a lot of features, my phone is plain 3g, the third party apps are terrible and expensive, there's no real turn by turn unless I have a Nokia phone.

    MY optimus screen is freezing so I can use everything but the screen. I need to get a replacement soon and its going to be either a Galaxy 2 or an iPhone 4. Maybe I'll be part of windows again when my contract ran out next year and Apollo devices will be plenty but I just want to use Pandora like normal people.
    what features are lacking? My phone does everything I need it to do, the 3rd party apps will get better. You want to move to Android because of Pandora or defective devices? Where's the logic there, on Android you will have more headaches with all the force closes,malware and battery sucking apps especially if you don't pay for them. 3G (especially T-mobile 3G) isn't bad at all and it's fast enough for everything I need to do, I even game on Xbox live with it and have no issues at all.
    05-06-2012 02:05 PM
  21. Winterfang's Avatar
    I'm not on tmobile. Im talking about basic features like Bluetooth file transfer and turn by turn navigation. The apps are really bad and they don't seem to be getting close to their android/ios counterpart.

    Look at the Facebook app, is just awful. Slacker radio is the laggiest application I've seeing on my life, Angry Birds lacks like a million levels, Fruit Ninja runs very choppy and is missing the pomegranate. Those games are much more expensive and much much worse, for no reason at all.

    I've being with windows phone before we even had copy and paste but I'm kind of tired of being the guy with the phone that lacks all the apps. Where's temple run, asphalt, instangram? Are we going to get a much much worse version next year when they won't be relevant?

    I didn't bought my phone as a budget device, I paid 199.99. I could had bought a iphone 4G with that money. A phone with an Os that doesn't make me feel ashamed of myself.
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    05-06-2012 03:30 PM
  22. fatclue_98's Avatar
    I'm not on tmobile. Im talking about basic features like Bluetooth file transfer and turn by turn navigation. The apps are really bad and they don't seem to be getting close to their android/ios counterpart.

    Look at the Facebook app, is just awful. Slacker radio is the laggiest application I've seeing on my life, Angry Birds lacks like a million levels, Fruit Ninja runs very choppy and is missing the pomegranate. Those games are much more expensive and much much worse, for no reason at all.

    I've being with windows phone before we even had copy and paste but I'm kind of tired of being the guy with the phone that lacks all the apps. Where's temple run, asphalt, instangram? Are we going to get a much much worse version next year when they won't be relevant?

    I didn't bought my phone as a budget device, I paid 199.99. I could had bought a iphone 4G with that money. A phone with an Os that doesn't make me feel ashamed of myself.
    Dude, don't even go near the BT file transfer or PAN topic. I posted here on wpcentral & XDA regarding this missing functionality and you'd think i smacked somebody on the **** with a hammer. Long story short, some moderator at XDA with a Napoleon complex closed the thread because it "went off topic" in his eyes. Maybe if there weren't so many haters my thread would have stayed alive.

    Regarding this thread, the feedback that Winterfang and others are expressing should serve to improve the platform, not be a springboard for dumbass non-consstructive comments. WP7 isn't perfect. In fact as young as it is and the pace of improvements over Android and iOS at the same period of release should be an indicator that MS is listening for once. Drop all the maternal-fornicating hate and let's work as a community to get the equipment and the functionality we so desperately crave. Time to get off my soapbox, thanks for lending me your ear. :D
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    05-06-2012 03:48 PM
  23. Winterfang's Avatar
    Exactly, we can't be another webOS. My phone is dying and the only thing that my carrier offers are my phone and the lumia's 710 and 800. I don't want neither.
    05-06-2012 04:51 PM
  24. smapor's Avatar
    Dude, don't even go near the BT file transfer or PAN topic. I posted here on wpcentral & XDA regarding this missing functionality and you'd think i smacked somebody on the **** with a hammer. Long story short, some moderator at XDA with a Napoleon complex closed the thread because it "went off topic" in his eyes. Maybe if there weren't so many haters my thread would have stayed alive.

    Regarding this thread, the feedback that Winterfang and others are expressing should serve to improve the platform, not be a springboard for dumbass non-consstructive comments. WP7 isn't perfect. In fact as young as it is and the pace of improvements over Android and iOS at the same period of release should be an indicator that MS is listening for once. Drop all the maternal-fornicating hate and let's work as a community to get the equipment and the functionality we so desperately crave. Time to get off my soapbox, thanks for lending me your ear. :D
    Some negative feedback is useless on forums besides stopping others from trying WP7.

    If you feel that strongly about apps, voice your concerns to the app developers who provide crappy apps.
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    05-06-2012 05:01 PM
  25. eric12341's Avatar
    I'm not on tmobile. Im talking about basic features like Bluetooth file transfer and turn by turn navigation. The apps are really bad and they don't seem to be getting close to their android/ios counterpart.

    Look at the Facebook app, is just awful. Slacker radio is the laggiest application I've seeing on my life, Angry Birds lacks like a million levels, Fruit Ninja runs very choppy and is missing the pomegranate. Those games are much more expensive and much much worse, for no reason at all.

    I've being with windows phone before we even had copy and paste but I'm kind of tired of being the guy with the phone that lacks all the apps. Where's temple run, asphalt, instangram? Are we going to get a much much worse version next year when they won't be relevant?

    I didn't bought my phone as a budget device, I paid 199.99. I could had bought a iphone 4G with that money. A phone with an Os that doesn't make me feel ashamed of myself.
    I don't use the Facebook app but it's getting better with every update, slacker radio runs fine on my HD7 and so does fruit ninja (which hasn't yet been updated to mango), who cares about all those other apps? Don't be a blind follower with the naive iSheep, you still haven't presented a valid issue to leave the platform especially when we're on the heels of windows 8/WP8 the OS that's finally going to unify the MS ecosystem.
    Exactly, we can't be another webOS. My phone is dying and the only thing that my carrier offers are my phone and the lumia's 710 and 800. I don't want neither.
    so then get a titan II or lumia 900, if your carrier cam support a Lumia 800 it can support a titan II or lumia 900.
    05-06-2012 05:39 PM
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