N8ter
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LOL @ "We" barely need quad core computers. Sorry, I edit audio and video all the time, and do a ton of video analysis plus transcode stuff (cause some people have Mac or *NIX systems without certain CODECs). I need all the cores I can get seeing as how software I use (like Adobe Audition CS5.5, for example) are optimized for multiple cores and more cores makes things like applying effects and the like much faster. I also need a good Graphics Card because high end GPUs can offload some tasks from the CPU, like transcoding media. Everything is faster with the better hardware, even though the OS doesn't need it - the Apps benefit greatly from it.
Android has an NDK, WP7 doesn't, so what's possible on Android may not necessarily be possible on WP7 at the moment for 3rd party developers. Android supports multiple cores Natively now, so even the OS stands to benefit going from 1 to 2 to 4 Core devices now. All new phones are coming with the latest Android version.
There are already android apps that can do things like elementary-level video analysis (Slow-Mo, Flame by Frame, etc.) and if you use it on a single core phone - even a phone with a really decent GPU and great GPU like a Hummingbird or S2 Snapdragon, the performance is obviously worse than on something like a Dual S4 or Exynos.
The tech in the dual core CPUs is better so even if the OS and apps only use 1 core of the new 4 core Exynos processor, it's still going to outperform the processor in the latest Windows phones while pulling less power and producing less heat to boot.
People are not understanding the benefits. 1 Exynos Core in the new GS3 will still outperform the processor in a Lumia 900 at single-core operations, and the GPU is so superior it isn't even worth doing a comparison there.
The cores are only a side-benefit, and they're a great benefit when you know your phone will get updated to an OS revision that supports them (like the mid-2011-to-now Samsung/HTC/Motorola phones that are almost all getting ICS). Even for single-core operations, those processors are superior to what we're getting.
So stop trying to use "Android needs dual core to run fine" when you know Android phones have been popping up "running fine" with Dual Cores before the OS even supported them, Lol. The cores aren't why they were running good. It's cause the processors were better, period, even using only 1 core they were better than previous single-core processors. Obviously, the software did improve as well, that goes without saying.
Pretty much everyone who's gone from Gingerbread to ICS via OTA update (or even hacking it onto their devices unofficially) has confirmed that the battery life and performance of the device increased as a result - even on leaked ROMs compared to super-optimized custom ROMs in many cases. It's about future proofing. Piling on the hardware now can ensure a device goes a full 2 years without feeling like a 2004 XP workstation after the first year just by virtue of that hardware + a later OS update that fully utilizes it.
If people actually understood this, people wouldn't have to keep repeating the ABOVE FACTS to them. It's getting hillarious, cause it seems to never sink in.
If Microsoft doesn't fully port Apollo to older devices, then it will explain why they have stuck to the older hardware, and in that case I'd question whether they knew they wouldn't support those devices well past Mango from the outset, especially given they're releasing new Mango devices even now which have potential to fall into that [albeit theoretical] category.
Android has an NDK, WP7 doesn't, so what's possible on Android may not necessarily be possible on WP7 at the moment for 3rd party developers. Android supports multiple cores Natively now, so even the OS stands to benefit going from 1 to 2 to 4 Core devices now. All new phones are coming with the latest Android version.
There are already android apps that can do things like elementary-level video analysis (Slow-Mo, Flame by Frame, etc.) and if you use it on a single core phone - even a phone with a really decent GPU and great GPU like a Hummingbird or S2 Snapdragon, the performance is obviously worse than on something like a Dual S4 or Exynos.
The tech in the dual core CPUs is better so even if the OS and apps only use 1 core of the new 4 core Exynos processor, it's still going to outperform the processor in the latest Windows phones while pulling less power and producing less heat to boot.
People are not understanding the benefits. 1 Exynos Core in the new GS3 will still outperform the processor in a Lumia 900 at single-core operations, and the GPU is so superior it isn't even worth doing a comparison there.
The cores are only a side-benefit, and they're a great benefit when you know your phone will get updated to an OS revision that supports them (like the mid-2011-to-now Samsung/HTC/Motorola phones that are almost all getting ICS). Even for single-core operations, those processors are superior to what we're getting.
So stop trying to use "Android needs dual core to run fine" when you know Android phones have been popping up "running fine" with Dual Cores before the OS even supported them, Lol. The cores aren't why they were running good. It's cause the processors were better, period, even using only 1 core they were better than previous single-core processors. Obviously, the software did improve as well, that goes without saying.
Pretty much everyone who's gone from Gingerbread to ICS via OTA update (or even hacking it onto their devices unofficially) has confirmed that the battery life and performance of the device increased as a result - even on leaked ROMs compared to super-optimized custom ROMs in many cases. It's about future proofing. Piling on the hardware now can ensure a device goes a full 2 years without feeling like a 2004 XP workstation after the first year just by virtue of that hardware + a later OS update that fully utilizes it.
If people actually understood this, people wouldn't have to keep repeating the ABOVE FACTS to them. It's getting hillarious, cause it seems to never sink in.
If Microsoft doesn't fully port Apollo to older devices, then it will explain why they have stuck to the older hardware, and in that case I'd question whether they knew they wouldn't support those devices well past Mango from the outset, especially given they're releasing new Mango devices even now which have potential to fall into that [albeit theoretical] category.
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