05-19-2012 03:57 PM
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  1. JPDVM2014's Avatar
    I was a little hesitant to leave Verizon and my unlimited data for the 900, but it looks like Verizon would have made my choice for me soon enough anyway.

    Verizon CFO says grandfathered unlimited plans on the way out -- Engadget
    05-16-2012 04:04 PM
  2. socialcarpet's Avatar
    Eh... doesn't matter. AT&T already throttles your speed on your unlimited data plan once you go over 3GB or so.

    Unlimited data plans aren't going to survive, unfortunately, because of greed. Both the greed of the phone companies, and the greed of the few users who pushed the limits and used excessive amounts of data and forced the hand of the phone companies to reel it back in.
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    05-16-2012 05:05 PM
  3. scottcraft's Avatar
    I don't like the idea of losing my unlimited data, but I'm not a heavy user. I would like a reasonable amount like maybe five gigs to share with my wife if it doesn't cost too much.

    Sent from my Windows 7 phone using Board Express
    05-16-2012 05:24 PM
  4. ninjaap's Avatar
    I don't like the idea of losing my unlimited data, but I'm not a heavy user. I would like a reasonable amount like maybe five gigs to share with my wife if it doesn't cost too much.

    Sent from my Windows 7 phone using Board Express
    ATT is getting set to introduce family data plans! Looking forward to that.
    05-16-2012 05:28 PM
  5. jd914's Avatar
    It will only be a matter of time when AT&T begins to exterminate grandfathered unlimited data plans. If you think you're sticking it to Verizon by going to another provider you're in for a rude awakening.
    05-16-2012 05:35 PM
  6. scottcraft's Avatar
    My only concern is that I have a special offer type plan and I'm concerned that I might have to switch to a plan that costs more. Keeping my fingers crossed!

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    05-16-2012 05:39 PM
  7. dkp23's Avatar
    I have an unlimited data plan on ATT, but pretty much doesnt mean anything due to throttling...

    for hspa devices, your throttle amount is 3gb so really, you can surf the internet, but it will probably take you about 30 minutes to load a page :o

    LTE, the throttling level is 5gb ..
    05-16-2012 06:53 PM
  8. GSOgymrat's Avatar
    I just switched to AT&T from Sprint so I could get the Nokia Lumia 900. I have only had the phone a couple of days but I can tell you I could not stream music with Spotify or Pandora with Sprint and my Evo 4G without it constantly cutting out-- I am talking every 30 seconds. I have been driving around town using Spotify with AT&T and my WP and it has not cut out once. So far I am impressed.
    05-16-2012 08:20 PM
  9. lilb1190's Avatar
    Eh... doesn't matter. AT&T already throttles your speed on your unlimited data plan once you go over 3GB or so.

    Unlimited data plans aren't going to survive, unfortunately, because of greed. Both the greed of the phone companies, and the greed of the few users who pushed the limits and used excessive amounts of data and forced the hand of the phone companies to reel it back in.
    I guess my one question here is how much does data really cost to a data service provider? Is it because these users a hogging bandwidth or something? I dont think it really costs the provider all that much.
    05-16-2012 08:27 PM
  10. Jeff Kibuule's Avatar
    I guess my one question here is how much does data really cost to a data service provider? Is it because these users a hogging bandwidth or something? I dont think it really costs the provider all that much.
    Well, the problem is that they are going about it the wrong way. Similar to wired connections, the problem isn't the amount of data being transfered (since the cost of sending a bit is rather tiny) but what happens during congested time periods. There isn't enough bandwidth during peak time periods to support streaming Netflix to all customers all the time. However, streaming at 1am when people rarely use the network is fine.

    Low data caps however discourage use of the network at all by instilling fear of going over the limit.
    05-16-2012 08:50 PM
  11. eric12341's Avatar
    I don't like the idea of losing my unlimited data, but I'm not a heavy user. I would like a reasonable amount like maybe five gigs to share with my wife if it doesn't cost too much.

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    T-mobile allows for plans of up to 10GB but each line can have their own amount of data.
    I have an unlimited data plan on ATT, but pretty much doesnt mean anything due to throttling...

    for hspa devices, your throttle amount is 3gb so really, you can surf the internet, but it will probably take you about 30 minutes to load a page :o

    LTE, the throttling level is 5gb ..
    doesn't take me 30mins to load a webpage when T-mobile throttles me,and I can still stream slacker radio just fine.
    05-16-2012 11:36 PM
  12. HeyCori's Avatar
    I'll be happy when I move away from AT&T. I like my Titan/Focus but they are costly. I checked T-Mobile's coverage map and it looks like there's faux-G where I work but only 2G where I live. It won't be a problem when the refarming is done, but until then... decisions decisions...
    05-16-2012 11:50 PM
  13. JJO 1212's Avatar
    I have the 3GB data plan for my Lumia 900 on at&t and I barely use much LTE data when out of wifi.

    Unless you're doing heavy streaming on LTE non-stop, it's REALLY HARD to go past your limit. You have to literally force yourself to.
    05-18-2012 11:03 PM
  14. ninjaap's Avatar
    I'll be happy when I move away from AT&T. I like my Titan/Focus but they are costly. I checked T-Mobile's coverage map and it looks like there's faux-G where I work but only 2G where I live. It won't be a problem when the refarming is done, but until then... decisions decisions...
    Do you think when the refarming happens, the prices will stay the same? I think not.
    05-18-2012 11:42 PM
  15. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    I have the grandfathered unlimited plan with AT&T. My last billing cycle was the first entire cycle using the L900. I had a BlackBerry previously. I only used 1.1 GB on my L900, with extensive use of the browser (desktop version, not mobile), WhatsApp, SkyDrive photo uploads, Wordament, Netflix, music streaming, Reader2Go, Rowi, Board Express, and Nokia Drive.
    05-18-2012 11:44 PM
  16. HeyCori's Avatar
    Do you think when the refarming happens, the prices will stay the same? I think not.
    Any evidence to suggest why the price is going up because of the refarming? (and not because of the other logical reasons why prices would go up)
    05-19-2012 12:01 AM
  17. eric12341's Avatar
    Do you think when the refarming happens, the prices will stay the same? I think not.
    T-mobile isn't like sprint, they aren't going to charge extra for usage of unlocked phones in the network. Plus they're trying to reduce churn.

    I have the grandfathered unlimited plan with AT&T. My last billing cycle was the first entire cycle using the L900. I had a BlackBerry previously. I only used 1.1 GB on my L900, with extensive use of the browser (desktop version, not mobile), WhatsApp, SkyDrive photo uploads, Wordament, Netflix, music streaming, Reader2Go, Rowi, Board Express, and Nokia Drive.
    Hmm I'm pushing 1.2GB now and it's only my second day of my latest cycle. But it's probably because I tether with my sisters iPod.
    05-19-2012 12:56 AM
  18. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    T-mobile isn't like sprint, they aren't going to charge extra for usage of unlocked phones in the network. Plus they're trying to reduce churn.



    Hmm I'm pushing 1.2GB now and it's only my second day of my latest cycle. But it's probably because I tether with my sisters iPod.
    I've never tethered with any devices I've owned. WiFi is readily available when I want to use the Internet on my laptops.
    05-19-2012 01:02 AM
  19. ninjaap's Avatar
    Any evidence to suggest why the price is going up because of the refarming? (and not because of the other logical reasons why prices would go up)
    No evidence whatsoever :) Just seems to be the trend - higher speeds usually mean higher prices.
    05-19-2012 02:31 AM
  20. HeyCori's Avatar
    No evidence whatsoever :) Just seems to be the trend - higher speeds usually mean higher prices.
    That's usually because of cost associated with building new towers ...and because carriers are greedy. :D

    But this time, because of the breakup deal from AT&T's failed takeover, T-Mobile gets to piggy back off AT&T's spectrum plus AT&T has to pay Deutsche Telekom (the company that owns T-Mobile) a $4 billion dollar breakup fee, though it remains to be seen how much of that money will be given to the American branch of T-Mobile. Still, T-Mobile can roll out 4G/LTE thanks to all of AT&T's hard work. :)
    05-19-2012 07:06 AM
  21. palandri's Avatar
    No evidence whatsoever :) Just seems to be the trend - higher speeds usually mean higher prices.
    That's true. :)

    Ninjaap, you go out of the country from time to time. What have you paid for internet/data out of the U.S.?

    I was just in France with my wife. I bought an Orange Pay As You Go SIM card. It was only 9 euro (11.91 usd) to add a month of unlimited 3.5G internet/data.
    05-19-2012 07:43 AM
  22. ninjaap's Avatar
    That's usually because of cost associated with building new towers ...and because carriers are greedy. :D

    But this time, because of the breakup deal from AT&T's failed takeover, T-Mobile gets to piggy back off AT&T's spectrum plus AT&T has to pay Deutsche Telekom (the company that owns T-Mobile) a $4 billion dollar breakup fee, though it remains to be seen how much of that money will be given to the American branch of T-Mobile. Still, T-Mobile can roll out 4G/LTE thanks to all of AT&T's hard work. :)
    I just don't think that Tmo is a very safe place to be. They are constantly losing subscribers and are desperate to be eaten up by another carrier that they're looking into merging with metro pcs. A CDMA company? Yikes. What a nightmare that would be. Losing subscribers, losing money, and spending more money to build 4G towers, all the while, keeping the rates the same. Its almost like the other carriers are flying circles around Tmo, like a bunch of voltures, waiting for it to die off on its own. When it does, it will be a free for all on spectrum that is very hard to come by.
    05-19-2012 10:30 AM
  23. ninjaap's Avatar
    That's true. :)

    Ninjaap, you go out of the country from time to time. What have you paid for internet/data out of the U.S.?

    I was just in France with my wife. I bought an Orange Pay As You Go SIM card. It was only 9 euro (11.91 usd) to add a month of unlimited 3.5G internet/data.
    I was just in the Philippines and got a prepaid Globe SIM card. They had an interesting tiered UNLIMITED data plan - 1day: 50Php (1.19USD), 5days: 200Php (4.76USD), 30days: 999Php (23.78USD). I also remember options with tiered MB plan - starting at 20MB for 15Php (0.35USD). I think they were still on 3G and never saw 3.5G speeds. I did read about how LTE was already underscontruction and should be coming in the next year.
    05-19-2012 10:51 AM
  24. eric12341's Avatar
    I just don't think that Tmo is a very safe place to be. They are constantly losing subscribers and are desperate to be eaten up by another carrier that they're looking into merging with metro pcs. A CDMA company? Yikes. What a nightmare that would be. Losing subscribers, losing money, and spending more money to build 4G towers, all the while, keeping the rates the same. Its almost like the other carriers are flying circles around Tmo, like a bunch of voltures, waiting for it to die off on its own. When it does, it will be a free for all on spectrum that is very hard to come by.
    T-mo isn't losing money or are desperate to be bought out, you need to get your facts straight. Sprint is in much worse shape than they are,they still have no plans to rollout LTE in the top 3 markets,their 3G network is decomposing at a rapid rate, speeds are slower than T-mobile EDGE in many places. Tired of people egging on T-mobile.
    05-19-2012 02:57 PM
  25. ninjaap's Avatar
    T-mo isn't losing money or are desperate to be bought out, you need to get your facts straight. Sprint is in much worse shape than they are,they still have no plans to rollout LTE in the top 3 markets,their 3G network is decomposing at a rapid rate, speeds are slower than T-mobile EDGE in many places. Tired of people egging on T-mobile.
    Well just saying, Sprint isn't the one actively looking for a merger/buyout with another company. T-mo employees and subscribers can ignore this fact and get on with their lives, but it's still a reality.
    05-19-2012 03:33 PM
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