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  1. socialcarpet's Avatar
    It depends on what your requirements are. If you don't require more than what a WP7 device can offer, then why not take the plunge?

    I'm getting the Vivid moving on from an HD7. It meets all my requirements (ICS, 1080p + 720p in 60FPS + Slow Motion Mode on a really good camera, Dual Core + HSPA+/LTE, qHD resolution screen, 16GB + SD Slot, FFC for Skype, Sense has all the Social Integration I used on WP7 and more).

    The 60 FPS recording is clutch. I need that for video analysis and it will let me drop one more device I carry with me. I took some samples and emailed them to myself, the quality was very good in dubious lighting.

    P.S. Microsoft collects as much data as Google, and if you don't think they monetize it then you don't have a clue how that all works. You think they're in the business of throwing money down the toilet, since otherwise that is exactly what they would be doing providing free service with literally no revenue stream.

    Microsoft is in the Ad and Search market, just like Google. They are just the underdogs. Everyone always loves the underdogs :P
    Cool. Have fun.

    Why don't you and Tekhna go over to the Phandroid forums already and leave this place in peace? You contribute nothing. You undermine morale. All either of you do is blow Android gas out your rear ends all over this forum. No one cares. No one wants to read it.

    Why are you here?
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    05-30-2012 05:31 PM
  2. eric12341's Avatar
    Cool. Have fun.

    Why don't you and Tekhna go over to the Phandroid forums already and leave this place in peace? You contribute nothing. You undermine morale. All either of you do is blow Android gas out your rear ends all over this forum. No one cares. No one wants to read it.

    Why are you here?
    He was banned from XDA for doing this same exact thing.
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    05-30-2012 05:48 PM
  3. sting7k's Avatar
    As far as Google and Microsoft sharing data, both are evil, I just think Microsoft is less evil. I have quite a number of apps on my phone that ask for access to my location. Some of this is unavoidable with a smartphone. I stopped using android because my motorola droid was junk and I didn't like the android phones that were out at that time, not because I was concerned about Google spying on me.
    I disagree, I think Microsoft is much more evil than Google. If Google were more evil they would be the ones making money from each WP7 sale and not the other way around. But when you are an ad company playing in the tech industry these things can happen.

    How much does Microsoft get from HTC and Samsung from each Android device sale again?
    05-30-2012 07:33 PM
  4. alpinestars1z's Avatar
    I disagree, I think Microsoft is much more evil than Google. If Google were more evil they would be the ones making money from each WP7 sale and not the other way around. But when you are an ad company playing in the tech industry these things can happen.

    How much does Microsoft get from HTC and Samsung from each Android device sale again?
    Lol, if that's your definition of evil, then Apple would probably be the most evil. :P
    05-30-2012 07:49 PM
  5. tekhna's Avatar
    How much does Microsoft get from HTC and Samsung from each Android device sale again?
    lol, yeah, that's the thing, if people want Microsoft to succeed, they should be encouraging Android. Microsoft makes $$$$ off Android.
    05-30-2012 08:00 PM
  6. eric12341's Avatar
    I disagree, I think Microsoft is much more evil than Google. If Google were more evil they would be the ones making money from each WP7 sale and not the other way around. But when you are an ad company playing in the tech industry these things can happen.

    How much does Microsoft get from HTC and Samsung from each Android device sale again?
    lol, yeah, that's the thing, if people want Microsoft to succeed, they should be encouraging Android. Microsoft makes $$$$ off Android.
    what an ignorant response? How is wanting compensation for usage of property being evil? Pretty sure both of y'all would be mad if your neighbors would take your car without asking or running an extension cord to their house without asking. Pathetic!
    05-30-2012 09:57 PM
  7. N8ter's Avatar
    Cool. Have fun.

    Why don't you and Tekhna go over to the Phandroid forums already and leave this place in peace? You contribute nothing. You undermine morale. All either of you do is blow Android gas out your rear ends all over this forum. No one cares. No one wants to read it.

    Why are you here?
    I am having fun with my new phone :P Too much fun to even bother responding to this at any decent level.

    If I undermind morale here, then people need psychiatrists more than they seem to think they need fanboys.

    Also eric has been through about 5 screen names on XDA :P
    05-30-2012 11:05 PM
  8. cckgz4's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure if I went to Android Central/Crackberry/iMore and boasted about how my WinPho experience is much better than my *insert competition* experience 90% of the time REPETITIVELY, I'd be temporarily banned by now. Matter of fact, I got banned from Crackberry for side tracking a topic because this roaring fanatc was placing labels on folks and disrespecting people. Some of y'all leashes are running a little long. And all this word play about how you're NOT trying to garner reactions out of people is even more insulting. It's obvious, and some are more easier to get those kind of responses out of them. But if that's how you spend your free time........
    05-31-2012 01:36 AM
  9. eric12341's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure if I went to Android Central/Crackberry/iMore and boasted about how my WinPho experience is much better than my *insert competition* experience 90% of the time REPETITIVELY, I'd be temporarily banned by now. Matter of fact, I got banned from Crackberry for side tracking a topic because this roaring fanatc was placing labels on folks and disrespecting people. Some of y'all leashes are running a little long. And all this word play about how you're NOT trying to garner reactions out of people is even more insulting. It's obvious, and some are more easier to get those kind of responses out of them. But if that's how you spend your free time........

    Exactly,I don't know why this site thinks this kinda thing is ok, it's not and even XDA is beginning to crackdown on it. It's not good for people who enjoy WP,and it's also not good for the person who started this thread or for anyone who comes here for questions about coming to WP.

    I predict a shut down of this thread within 6 hours from now.
    05-31-2012 05:19 AM
  10. selfcreation's Avatar
    I disagree, I think Microsoft is much more evil than Google. If Google were more evil they would be the ones making money from each WP7 sale and not the other way around. But when you are an ad company playing in the tech industry these things can happen.

    How much does Microsoft get from HTC and Samsung from each Android device sale again?
    if I remember correctly, its between 5-15$ a unit depending on the OEM and the Intellectual Property they *borrow* from Microsoft


    and apple is much more EVIL! they actually tried to BAN ALL android Phones from being Sold in the U.S.A .. Microsoft is just taking money instead :) lol
    05-31-2012 09:41 AM
  11. mdintx's Avatar
    1. yes there is! like 20apps you can get that does this. PIN to start and activate. 2 steps instead of 4 and scrolling around the menus

    2) if your downloading or connected via AC/USB wire it wont disconnect. (this is done on purposes so you dont kill your battery.same thing with WIFI sync you need to be connected)

    3) use your finger to slide down from top it comes back!! and if your in a APP, MOST APPS allows you to keep the BAR active in their settings!!!

    :happy:
    1) Sure, you can get an app to launch wifi or gps and pin to the start menu.What I've done is pinned the Settings option. It cuts down on swiping. None of it is as elegant a power control widget.

    2) With respect to the wifi sleep policy, sure you can stay connected via AC/USB. Again, WP7 system makes you have to do something that's a non-issue with Android.

    3) And yes, you can swipe down to make the info bar come back...but then it goes away again. So you have to swipe down to make it come back...but then it goes away again. So you have to swipe down...but then it goes away again... Of the apps I most frequently use, only WP Central allows you to lock the system tray and that is cool. On most of the other apps, the system tray isn't even displayed. It's a bit of a bummer.
    05-31-2012 10:56 AM
  12. selfcreation's Avatar
    1) Sure, you can get an app to launch wifi or gps and pin to the start menu.What I've done is pinned the Settings option. It cuts down on swiping. None of it is as elegant a power control widget.

    2) With respect to the wifi sleep policy, sure you can stay connected via AC/USB. Again, WP7 system makes you have to do something that's a non-issue with Android.

    3) And yes, you can swipe down to make the info bar come back...but then it goes away again. So you have to swipe down to make it come back...but then it goes away again. So you have to swipe down...but then it goes away again... Of the apps I most frequently use, only WP Central allows you to lock the system tray and that is cool. On most of the other apps, the system tray isn't even displayed. It's a bit of a bummer.
    1) im not talking about the *settings*, you can have direct access to your wifi with this app: Connection Tiles , then you can PIN , wifi , BT , airplane mode ,cellular etc... independently. witch comes out to be as fast if not faster then then Android and Iphones way of doing it. witch is open the widget and then activate WIFI ( same thing as WP)

    2) regarding the WIFI sleep , I just notice that my phone ( not sure if its just me LOL ) but when it goes to sleep mode my WIFI stays on , it doesn't disconnect. AT ALL. maybe they updated that? lol weird. OR this is the FIRST positive BUG in history. lol

    3) just out of PURE curiosity, why do you need the Status bar to show all the time?
    05-31-2012 11:12 AM
  13. Seketh's Avatar
    2) regarding the WIFI sleep , I just notice that my phone ( not sure if its just me LOL ) but when it goes to sleep mode my WIFI stays on , it doesn't disconnect. AT ALL. maybe they updated that? lol weird. OR this is the FIRST positive BUG in history. lol
    That's weird, are you sure? Mine always goes to sleep, even when connected to AC power.

    Do you by any change have the sync settings of your accounts set to "when receiving items" (or something like that in English)? I have mine set to every 30 minutes.
    05-31-2012 11:26 AM
  14. selfcreation's Avatar
    That's weird, are you sure? Mine always goes to sleep, even when connected to AC power.

    Do you by any change have the sync settings of your accounts set to "when receiving items" (or something like that in English)? I have mine set to every 30 minutes.
    well i just tested it by connecting to my Friends Iphone 4. and it stayed connected? :dry lol

    Download new content: as items arrive

    aside from that its all normal.. maybe its cause IT auto sync as i was testing it lol? well w/e lol
    Last edited by Se1fcr3ation; 05-31-2012 at 12:26 PM.
    05-31-2012 11:48 AM
  15. eric12341's Avatar
    1) Sure, you can get an app to launch wifi or gps and pin to the start menu.What I've done is pinned the Settings option. It cuts down on swiping. None of it is as elegant a power control widget.

    2) With respect to the wifi sleep policy, sure you can stay connected via AC/USB. Again, WP7 system makes you have to do something that's a non-issue with Android.

    3) And yes, you can swipe down to make the info bar come back...but then it goes away again. So you have to swipe down to make it come back...but then it goes away again. So you have to swipe down...but then it goes away again... Of the apps I most frequently use, only WP Central allows you to lock the system tray and that is cool. On most of the other apps, the system tray isn't even displayed. It's a bit of a bummer.
    3) why would you want the system tray always displayed? It wastes space and even the system tray in windows 7 auto hides. #nitpicking
    05-31-2012 12:40 PM
  16. N8ter's Avatar
    The System Tray in Windows 7 doesn't auto-hide. The OS just consolidates some Notification icons into the Up Arrow to stop it from taking up too much space in your toolbar. Earlier versions of Windows did the same thing, just in a different way. The system tray is always there, just the amount of space it can consume is static now. A good change, definitely.
    05-31-2012 12:44 PM
  17. mdintx's Avatar
    3) why would you want the system tray always displayed? It wastes space and even the system tray in windows 7 auto hides. #nitpicking
    So I can monitor the battery and more importantly, the Wifi connection. I have the lower data plan (200mb) with AT&T. With my droid, I was able to keep connected to the Wifi even when the phone was in standby and run most of the data that way. In monitoring my usage, I could generally limit my data to 20-40mb per month. In my first month with the Focus S, I've already had an overage charge on my data and I'm only halfway through my billing cycle.
    06-01-2012 05:44 AM
  18. scottcraft's Avatar
    So I can monitor the battery and more importantly, the Wifi connection. I have the lower data plan (200mb) with AT&T. With my droid, I was able to keep connected to the Wifi even when the phone was in standby and run most of the data that way. In monitoring my usage, I could generally limit my data to 20-40mb per month. In my first month with the Focus S, I've already had an overage charge on my data and I'm only halfway through my billing cycle.
    Even though to some we are nitpicking I prefer to see the battery and signal all the time too. It's not a deal breaker for me, but I don't think it takes that much screen space to show it all the time.
    06-01-2012 05:48 AM
  19. socialcarpet's Avatar
    I disagree, I think Microsoft is much more evil than Google. If Google were more evil they would be the ones making money from each WP7 sale and not the other way around. But when you are an ad company playing in the tech industry these things can happen.

    How much does Microsoft get from HTC and Samsung from each Android device sale again?

    Microsoft and others make money from every Android sale because Google shamelessly pilfers ideas and violates patents left and right and hides behind the hippie bullish*t lie that they are "open source" and just want to benefit all of mankind.

    Google does little to nothing to actually contribute to the mainstream Linux kernel.

    Microsoft does license their OS to OEM's though, I see nothing wrong with that.

    Android is free and worth every penny.
    06-04-2012 01:59 PM
  20. cckgz4's Avatar
    O/T but Android REALLY suits my needs on a tablet standpoint. This experience is really great
    06-04-2012 02:45 PM
  21. eric12341's Avatar
    So I can monitor the battery and more importantly, the Wifi connection. I have the lower data plan (200mb) with AT&T. With my droid, I was able to keep connected to the Wifi even when the phone was in standby and run most of the data that way. In monitoring my usage, I could generally limit my data to 20-40mb per month. In my first month with the Focus S, I've already had an overage charge on my data and I'm only halfway through my billing cycle.
    the statuses display when something is up with them or changes

    Battery icon- shows when battery is low or charging
    WiFi icon- shows when network is connecting till its connected, reappears when network disconnects
    Signal icon- appears and displays constantly when there is no service, disappears once service is restored.
    06-04-2012 03:33 PM
  22. Kirk879's Avatar
    Seriously?no! Both of them have the the pros and cons,you should make the decision by yourself,and the using experience is vital,right?
    07-05-2012 04:24 AM
  23. AngryNil's Avatar
    Wait for a full Windows Phone 8 unveil (software and hardware) and perhaps the iPhone 5 event, and make a decision from those. Don't get a current Lumia if you're worried about upgradability, but the first WP8 devices will be a good bet (Microsoft would be crazy to pull the same thing next year). The iPhone is better supported by Google than Windows Phone.
    07-05-2012 07:35 AM
  24. MathiasVerden's Avatar
    1. Wifi Tethering is completely free for me. It's just like normal 3G usage.

    2. Apps from Zynga will be added later this year. Other apps should come as the ecosystem grows and grows. I'd wait for Windows Phone 8 to get a new phone.

    3. You will not be able to upgrade. Windows Phone 8 is too much of a change. But we're all hoping that all the holes will be filled with Windows Phone 7.8 There are a lot of things missing from the OS, and a lot of things that need to be copied from some apps and applied to other apps.

    4. Microsoft is really idiotic when it comes to these things. They wanna control everything and dominate every market, instead of thinking "if we can do it better, we're going to do it ourselves." So they've made their own maps and everything, that really aren't better in any aspect.

    I've never owned an Android device, but I have a bunch of iOS devices, and all that customization and all those skins are just a waste of time. They never look good and there's ALWAYS something they can't cover, making the whole thing look stupid. If you're going away from Android, wait for Windows Phone 8. Android is not even an option for me. There's no beauty to it.
    07-05-2012 08:34 AM
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