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  1. 12Danny123's Avatar
    why? You said all that without a lick of evidence why it is better than IOS and Android

    Whoop, finally doing something that OpenGL has been doing on other platform for years. This is catching up.. this is "me too".


    All of these have been available on IOS and Android for years. It's not new, nothing you said is new. ;)
    what the **** is wrong with you. it's Skype integration. IOS and Android doesn't have that. adn for enterprise it's Windows for god sakes man. you really that dumb?. it's the most used OS in the world and it's the most used OS in enterprise. It basically has Windows 7 and 8 enterprise features.

    Man I hate these type of people. they lack information or they didn't watch the summit video
    07-13-2012 02:51 PM
  2. diapers's Avatar
    it's the most used OS in the world and it's the most used OS in enterprise. It basically has Windows 7 and 8 enterprise features.
    That's your evidence? You're hilarious.
    07-13-2012 03:00 PM
  3. based_graham's Avatar
    why? You said all that without a lick of evidence why it is better than IOS and Android


    Whoop, finally doing something that OpenGL has been doing on other platform for years. This is catching up.. this is "me too".


    All of these have been available on IOS and Android for years. It's not new, nothing you said is new. ;)
    Group Policy and Active Directory support. Being able to register your WP8 to a domain and push settings down through group policy. Can you do that on a Android or iPhone. Also WP is more secure than Android

    Yes Skype is available VIA app but come on integration is so much better and easier to use. A Skype calling coming in like a normal phone call. Being able to just call out using Skype WiFi that's already a better experience. Integration better than application that is all I have to say.

    In regards to DX games there are tons of DX games like Batman AA. Imagine being able to play on your PC and continue on your Windows Phone that is the type of integration we might be able to see.

    Also with tight integration with your Windows PC why bother using something else unless you use a MAC or is heavily invested in Google services
    07-13-2012 03:02 PM
  4. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Group Policy and Active Directory support. Being able to register your WP8 to a domain and push settings down through group policy. Can you do that on a Android or iPhone. Also WP is more secure than Android

    Yes Skype is available VIA app but come on integration is so much better and easier to use. A Skype calling coming in like a normal phone call. Being able to just call out using Skype WiFi that's already a better experience. Integration better than application that is all I have to say.

    In regards to DX games there are tons of DX games like Batman AA. Imagine being able to play on your PC and continue on your Windows Phone that is the type of integration we might be able to see.

    Also with tight integration with your Windows PC why bother using something else unless you use a MAC or is heavily invested in Google services
    dude this person is a troll. he should go to **** like the rest.
    Last edited by 12Danny123; 07-13-2012 at 03:17 PM.
    07-13-2012 03:10 PM
  5. based_graham's Avatar
    dude this person is a troll. he should go to **** like the rest
    All good I am curious to what he has to say.
    07-13-2012 03:11 PM
  6. 12Danny123's Avatar
    All good I am curious to what he has to say.
    Nothing
    07-13-2012 03:18 PM
  7. diapers's Avatar
    All good I am curious to what he has to say.
    Ignore dannyboy there. I went through his post history and couldn't stop laughing.

    Btw I am a windows phone developer with an original samsung focus. It's fine if you wanna do the "rah-rah my phone is the best" thing but when it's not selling you need to take a good look at yourself and be critical. Fun discussion though.
    07-13-2012 03:18 PM
  8. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Ignore dannyboy there. I went through his post history and couldn't stop laughing.

    Btw I am a windows phone developer with an original samsung focus. It's fine if you wanna do the "rah-rah my phone is the best" thing but when it's not selling you need to take a good look at yourself and be critical. Fun discussion though.
    you're such a pervert. no ignore this mother****er. friend Based_Graham.
    you are one nerd. good job!.
    Last edited by 12Danny123; 07-13-2012 at 03:27 PM.
    07-13-2012 03:19 PM
  9. based_graham's Avatar
    you're such a pervert. no ignore this mother****er. friend Based_Graham.
    can't ignore developers... but about sales I really hate it when people talk about sales. Look the playing field isn't equal and for the amount of Windows Phones out in the market in my opinion sales are good
    07-13-2012 03:26 PM
  10. 12Danny123's Avatar
    can't ignore developers... but about sales I really hate it when people talk about sales. Look the playing field isn't equal and for the amount of Windows Phones out in the market in my opinion sales are good
    he's a developer?. what app did he develop?


    Wow Tuufly we are different. opposite
    07-13-2012 03:29 PM
  11. wolf1891's Avatar
    can't ignore developers... but about sales I really hate it when people talk about sales. Look the playing field isn't equal and for the amount of Windows Phones out in the market in my opinion sales are good
    ...well, he CLAIMS to be a developer... maybe he is, maybe he isn't, how are we to know for sure? (heck I could go online and CLAIM to be a lot of things, that doesn't automatically make it true)

    regardless, he never did respond to your last post on the actual topic, instead he let this slide off into a little name-calling session. If and when he decides to respond on the topic. THEN I'll look at what he has to say and decide as to what level of credibilty his statements will have with me. (at this point though he doesn't have much credibility with me so far, and I suspect that I'm not alone in that opinion)
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    07-13-2012 03:38 PM
  12. 12Danny123's Avatar
    ...well, he CLAIMS to be a developer... maybe he is, maybe he isn't, how are we to know for sure? (heck I could go online and CLAIM to be a lot of things, that doesn't automatically make it true)

    regardless, he never did respond to your last post on the actual topic, instead he let this slide off into a little name-calling session. If and when he decides to respond on the topic. THEN I'll look at what he has to say and decide as to what level of credibilty his statements will have with me. (at this point though he doesn't have much credibility with me so far, and I suspect that I'm not alone in that opinion)
    YES!. dude that's true!. I hate that dude!. he's dumb as a pig. no offence to tuufy boy here. isn't that right little man?
    Last edited by 12Danny123; 07-13-2012 at 05:42 PM.
    07-13-2012 03:41 PM
  13. diapers's Avatar
    ...well, he CLAIMS to be a developer... maybe he is, maybe he isn't, how are we to know for sure? (heck I could go online and CLAIM to be a lot of things, that doesn't automatically make it true)

    regardless, he never did respond to your last post on the actual topic, instead he let this slide off into a little name-calling session. If and when he decides to respond on the topic. THEN I'll look at what he has to say and decide as to what level of credibilty his statements will have with me. (at this point though he doesn't have much credibility with me so far, and I suspect that I'm not alone in that opinion)
    You guys are worse than applefan boys. Why don't you click on my profile and look at my post history, maybe in the beta forums. Only Dannyboy has been calling me names
    Frankly I don't care, too many people get emotional over something I look at as a business
    07-13-2012 05:15 PM
  14. 12Danny123's Avatar
    You guys are worse than applefan boys. Why don't you click on my profile and look at my post history, maybe in the beta forums. Only Dannyboy has been calling me names
    Frankly I don't care, too many people get emotional over something I look at as a business
    whatever :dry. I'm a teen so I can say it. adults sayin it is just awks
    07-13-2012 05:29 PM
  15. based_graham's Avatar
    You guys are worse than applefan boys. Why don't you click on my profile and look at my post history, maybe in the beta forums. Only Dannyboy has been calling me names
    Frankly I don't care, too many people get emotional over something I look at as a business
    But in all fairness I am curious to what you have to say about Enterprise, Gaming and VoIP. I think those 3 big selling features for WP8 plus many more.

    In all fairness gaming might be better on a iPhone for now but you get the whole Xbox Live experience especially no Xbox Live is not only for Xbox its for Windows PC's as well so the community is only going to get stronger.
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    07-13-2012 05:46 PM
  16. crystal_planet's Avatar
    You guys are worse than applefan boys. Why don't you click on my profile and look at my post history, maybe in the beta forums. Only Dannyboy has been calling me names
    Frankly I don't care, too many people get emotional over something I look at as a business
    Let's see here. You're on a fan site - enthusiasts post here. Were you expecting everyone to be blase about the device of their choice? Would expect a different reaction if were "critical" on another phone site?

    Also, it's funny you're a developer and you're ripping the very device you are developing for. Didn't anyone ever tell you not crap where you eat?
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    07-13-2012 07:12 PM
  17. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    The problem-is not the features. Or apps. Or design. Or being "easy".

    The problem is requirment. And Android. And refusal to jump platforms. And people.

    Why can't we win more people? Because they simply don't want to join.

    Let's start by looking back.

    9/20/2008-Android is released:
    "What's android" "Is that an iPhone?" were many thoughts of consumers. Most verizon users and sprint users saw this and jumped on it. Just because they couldn't get the iPhone.

    Sprint had the Palm Pre but due to Palms inepititude and the sheeple only wanting cRapple or Hemroid... Well you know.
    11/8/2010-Windows Phone is released:
    Light was not shed. Android was the leader. If you wanted something else, you'd go with the iPhone. Period.

    No real advertising and only one device on Sprint - The Maybe Some Day Network!

    2/3/2011-iPhone is released for Verizon:
    Verizon users soon found that the iPhone had taken over Verizon. Users had two options (and still do). If you were unhappy with Android you switched, or if you didn't really want to switch you sticked with android. That's why Android got popular. It was the only option and when another option came, people did not want to change everything.

    Nothing changed here.

    10/11/2012-iPhone is released for Sprint:
    Sprint users got what they were looking for.

    Uhhh.... No! Still only one OLD device for WinPhone!!! :@

    Unless users are REQUIRED to try Windows Phone or have an extra incentive, they won't switch until the iPhone gets old. Period.
    Now the real problem is showing the Sheeple that there is an alternative to cRapple & Hemroid. MS & Nokia needs something new and exciting, a game changer, something that nobody else has. Most here think it will be Nokia's Pureview... Uhhh no! That's about as exciting as a bowl of honey roasted nuts! There's only one device they can bring to the table that currently nobody has. That device is the Phon-let!!! :D Yes Samsung has the Note but it's too small; basically a poor first effort and it's running Hemroid... eww! Now Asus has the right idea with the Padfone but they put Hemroid on it and there not bringing it to the US. Don't think cRapple, Amazon & every company that makes Hemroid phones isn't looking into this. The fact that Nokia has the grim reaper looking over there shoulder isn't helping WinPhone either. If MS doesn't act quick it's gonna be HP/Palm all over again!
    07-13-2012 07:46 PM
  18. based_graham's Avatar
    Now the real problem is showing the Sheeple that there is an alternative to cRapple & Hemroid. MS & Nokia needs something new and exciting, a game changer, something that nobody else has. Most here think it will be Nokia's Pureview... Uhhh no! That's about as exciting as a bowl of honey roasted nuts! There's only one device they can bring to the table that currently nobody has. That device is the Phon-let!!! :D Yes Samsung has the Note but it's too small; basically a poor first effort and it's running Hemroid... eww! Now Asus has the right idea with the Padfone but they put Hemroid on it and there not bringing it to the US. Don't think cRapple, Amazon & every company that makes Hemroid phones isn't looking into this. The fact that Nokia has the grim reaper looking over there shoulder isn't helping WinPhone either. If MS doesn't act quick it's gonna be HP/Palm all over again!
    Not even close to the Palm Pre situation

    Did Palm Pre have a desktop OS to backbone momentum off?
    Did Palm Pre have the largest gaming social networking backed by the most popular gaming console?
    Did Palm Pre have over 100,000 apps?
    Did Palm Pre have the worlds most popular Office Suite?
    I know Palm Pre had Skype integrated I will give them that :P
    Did Palm Pre have a music and movie marketplace?

    HP wasn't as big as Microsoft and they didn't have world class services to support it. If Palm licensed the OS to OEM's maybe it would of been different but the lack of vision from the top guys at HP killed the platform.
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    07-13-2012 07:51 PM
  19. AKA Preluva's Avatar
    Not even close to the Palm Pre situation

    Did Palm Pre have a desktop OS to backbone momentum off?
    Did Palm Pre have the largest gaming social networking backed by the most popular gaming console?
    Did Palm Pre have over 100,000 apps?
    Did Palm Pre have the worlds most popular Office Suite?
    I know Palm Pre had Skype integrated I will give them that :P
    Did Palm Pre have a music and movie marketplace?

    HP wasn't as big as Microsoft and they didn't have world class services to support it. If Palm licensed the OS to OEM's maybe it would of been different but the lack of vision from the top guys at HP killed the platform.

    What I mean was HP bought Palm and thought they had a slam dunk to compete with cRapple & Roid. Palm and it's wonderful WebOS already had the stinch of death on it when HP got it and then they took forever and a day to do anything.

    MS has the OS but so far it hasn't done much (about 4% of the market) now they climbed aboard the SS Nokia, which is sinking fast! The perception amongst the Sheeple will be the same... WinPhone is D.O.A! Even some tech columnist don't see WinPhone as option 3 so what does that tell you?
    07-13-2012 08:12 PM
  20. based_graham's Avatar
    What I mean was HP bought Palm and thought they had a slam dunk to compete with cRapple & Roid. Palm and it's wonderful WebOS already had the stinch of death on it when HP got it and then they took forever and a day to do anything.

    MS has the OS but so far it hasn't done much (about 4% of the market) now they climbed aboard the SS Nokia, which is sinking fast! The perception amongst the Sheeple will be the same... WinPhone is D.O.A! Even some tech columnist don't see WinPhone as option 3 so what does that tell you?
    MS has done a lot to the OS and are continuing to make it better see WP8. But here is the thing MS has allot to work on
    1. Getting more carriers on board and finding a formula that works
    2. Managing OEM's from marketing to quality control

    MS is doing a pretty good job but its really up to these OEM's to market their phones

    Nokia is doing a stellar job but what about big players HTC and Samsung

    You see Samsung Galaxy's everywhere. Samsung Focus is Samsung's Windows flagship phone. Samsung can easily make it cheaper and market it along side the Samsung series Windows laptops and get it on more carriers.

    Why is the Galaxy on Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile and the Focus only on ATT see where I'm going

    Speaking of HTC why do I see a commercial with a dude parachuting from a plane taking a picture on his One X. Why couldn't this be the HTC Titan 2 which has a 16MP camera?

    See where I'm going

    OEM's need to play their part in order for WP to succeed.
    07-13-2012 08:17 PM
  21. baileystein's Avatar
    Wow, didn't expect it to blow up lol.

    ANYWAYS, a major problem here is carriers. AT&T SUCKS. I have AT&T and I only get EDGE, tested 10 kbps yesterday. Verizon is rolling out LTE (seriously) in May 2013. Why do I keep this sucky edge? Windows Phones. That's the answer. Verizon really needs to get a lumia (or whatever they will call it next) and titan III, pronto. I would switch for that.
    07-13-2012 08:23 PM
  22. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Wow, didn't expect it to blow up lol.

    ANYWAYS, a major problem here is carriers. AT&T SUCKS. I have AT&T and I only get EDGE, tested 10 kbps yesterday. Verizon is rolling out LTE (seriously) in May 2013. Why do I keep this sucky edge? Windows Phones. That's the answer. Verizon really needs to get a lumia (or whatever they will call it next) and titan III, pronto. I would switch for that.
    It's been confirmed. That verizon will get a nokia lumia device
    07-13-2012 08:44 PM
  23. 12Danny123's Avatar
    Now the real problem is showing the Sheeple that there is an alternative to cRapple & Hemroid. MS & Nokia needs something new and exciting, a game changer, something that nobody else has. Most here think it will be Nokia's Pureview... Uhhh no! That's about as exciting as a bowl of honey roasted nuts! There's only one device they can bring to the table that currently nobody has. That device is the Phon-let!!! :D Yes Samsung has the Note but it's too small; basically a poor first effort and it's running Hemroid... eww! Now Asus has the right idea with the Padfone but they put Hemroid on it and there not bringing it to the US. Don't think cRapple, Amazon & every company that makes Hemroid phones isn't looking into this. The fact that Nokia has the grim reaper looking over there shoulder isn't helping WinPhone either. If MS doesn't act quick it's gonna be HP/Palm all over again!
    I actually do,wonder if samsung get a note sized wp. I think it would be finewith onenote and stuff. Though it would need a special version of wp8
    07-13-2012 08:47 PM
  24. wolf1891's Avatar
    You guys are worse than applefan boys. Why don't you click on my profile and look at my post history, maybe in the beta forums. Only Dannyboy has been calling me names
    Frankly I don't care, too many people get emotional over something I look at as a business
    my time here is a finite resource. I am not about to waste it checking thru the post history of every poster on this site trying to see if I can get a feel for who/what they are like. Especially not someone with only 10 posts on the site (and several of those posts are in this very thread). Regardless, I'm done with you since you still have nothing constructive to add to the discussion despite being given plenty of opportunities to contribute some meaningful content. Welcome to my ignore list.
    07-13-2012 09:07 PM
  25. 12Danny123's Avatar
    my time here is a finite resource. I am not about to waste it checking thru the post history of every poster on this site trying to see if I can get a feel for who/what they are like. Especially not someone with only 10 posts on the site (and several of those posts are in this very thread). Regardless, I'm done with you since you still have nothing constructive to add to the discussion despite being given plenty of opportunities to contribute some meaningful content. Welcome to my ignore list.
    i agree with you my friend. We wp fanboys stick with each other. And we help people aren't i right
    07-13-2012 09:17 PM
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