11-17-2014 03:56 PM
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  1. Matt174e's Avatar
    I used to have a Venue Pro and I loved it! But when it broke I got a WP8 and It's not nearly as good. Mainly because of Xbox Music. I keep hoping that it'll get better, but it just gets worse with every update. I love everything about the Zune software and I have a Zune/Xbox music pass. I'm just wondering about apps... I'm not really a heavy app user (If I was I'd have an Android) but are any new apps compatible with WP7?
    negative1ne likes this.
    07-25-2014 10:27 AM
  2. Blacklac's Avatar
    There are Apps that can give you access to the Music Hub, as its still hidden in 8.0. That wont help with Zune desktop though.
    07-25-2014 10:31 AM
  3. Matt174e's Avatar
    Yes but even the older Xbox Music doesn't come close to Zune. And the desktop software is so much better than Xbox musics intrusive Windows 8 app.
    07-25-2014 10:41 AM
  4. Blacklac's Avatar
    Your not going to get WP7 onto a device that was sold with WP8, anyways.
    Tegument likes this.
    07-25-2014 10:50 AM
  5. trwrt's Avatar
    If you use the web interface to the Store in your desktop browser, you can see which versions of WP an app is compatible with in the left sidebar. You could check some of the stuff you use and the "top apps" to get an idea whether it would work out for you. And as was just mentioned, you'd need to buy a WP7 phone off of eBay or something because your current one can't be downgraded.

    Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States)
    negative1ne likes this.
    07-25-2014 11:11 AM
  6. Blacklac's Avatar
    Make me a sweet deal on my HTC Titan. :D
    xandros9 likes this.
    07-25-2014 11:19 AM
  7. Matt174e's Avatar
    I actually meant that I was going to buy an older phone. But it would be awesome if I could throw WP7 on this one :p
    07-25-2014 11:27 AM
  8. Plazma1's Avatar
    I turn my dvp on all the time. 7.8 running on it still beats 8.1

    Email threads work better. Zune is prettier. And I could reverse tether.

    Loved it
    negative1ne likes this.
    07-29-2014 03:27 AM
  9. Karthik Naik's Avatar
    though there are numerous things wp7 does better than 8.1
    overall its not worth ditching 8.1(or 8)
    best is to keep two phones , a wp7 and wp8.1 device so you get the best of both
    07-30-2014 03:37 AM
  10. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    Omg ew. While a few things may be done better onwp7, I am way too spoiled by the new features on 8.1, even if they are half baked, to go back to the basicness of wp7. Wp7 feels like a step above a feature phone.
    jmshub likes this.
    07-30-2014 03:40 AM
  11. negative1ne's Avatar
    i will stick with windows 7.8 due to the music player and hardware keyboard.

    and you can get them cheap from ebay and amazon.

    later
    -1
    08-03-2014 11:18 AM
  12. Geddeeee's Avatar
    All this romanticism about Zune.

    It was pretty, but basically not great. So, it could sync with WP7... That was about it. It's gone, dead. Forget it and move on....
    MS will finally sort out XB Music Player, and they will I'm sure.
    jmshub likes this.
    08-03-2014 11:41 AM
  13. KSilcox's Avatar
    I used to have a Venue Pro and I loved it! But when it broke I got a WP8 and It's not nearly as good. Mainly because of Xbox Music. I keep hoping that it'll get better, but it just gets worse with every update. I love everything about the Zune software and I have a Zune/Xbox music pass. I'm just wondering about apps... I'm not really a heavy app user (If I was I'd have an Android) but are any new apps compatible with WP7?
    Most new apps coming out will not be compatible with WP7. I don't think going back to WP7 would make you very happy, long term. Stick it out. They've already announced that Microsoft has heard your cries and is 'fixing' Xbox music hub.
    08-03-2014 11:53 AM
  14. negative1ne's Avatar
    All this romanticism about Zune.

    It was pretty, but basically not great. So, it could sync with WP7... That was about it. It's gone, dead. Forget it and move on....
    MS will finally sort out XB Music Player, and they will I'm sure.
    Because it's light years better than any current version of xbox music, or music app.

    it will take YEARS for xbox music, and the apps to get even close to how good the ZUNE music player was.

    if it even gets there.

    i prefer something that works, compared to a non working utility or application, since i listen to a lot of music,
    it's important to me.

    later
    -1
    LTTG and Kram Sacul like this.
    08-03-2014 04:49 PM
  15. TimboNJ's Avatar
    I had to send in my lumia 521 in today for repair and I'm using my 710 in the meantime.......I'm loving how fast my 710 is compared to the newer operating system.
    08-29-2014 01:24 PM
  16. a5cent's Avatar
    Wp7 feels like a step above a feature phone.
    That would apply to WP8 as well then. There was barely a difference between the two, except kids corner that few care about. Having to decide between kids corner support on WP8 vs. much better music/radio support on WP7, should have made it clear that all the nerd rage about not being able to upgrade to WP8.0 was a bit premature. But alas...

    I completely understand the OP.

    Still, I definitely wouldn't spend money on a WP7 device at this point, unless you really want to carry around two devices. I still get the occasional update on my Lumia 800, but compared to WP8 it is pretty much dead.
    Muessig likes this.
    08-29-2014 01:38 PM
  17. RTGent's Avatar
    I now use a Lumia 1020 that I updated to 8.1 on the 15th. The music app does suck, but I don't care much because a smartphone has always been my 4th, then 5th, 6th, and now 7th-favorite music player. The 1020 is primarily a phone/communicator, internet access tool, navigation aid, and a camera; and, it does these things beautifully, and all significantly better than with WP7.

    HOWEVER, music is my passion, and Zune is still my primary music Collection tool/hub/nexus on a newer Windows 7 desktop; and, my Zune players still sync beautifully with it. I use windows explorer to drag-and-drop about 12GBs of owned music on the 1020, and I play it almost only when I plug it in conveniently in my cars. The rest of the storage is preserved for photo and video needs/tastes. I do keep a WP 7.5 Focus -one of the three original WP phones- as a backup and lending device, but I couldn't give up my 1020. In fact, I may never upgrade again.
    08-29-2014 08:03 PM
  18. Nogitsune Micah's Avatar
    That would apply to WP8 as well then. There was barely a difference between the two, except kids corner that few care about. Having to decide between kids corner support on WP8 vs. much better music/radio support on WP7, should have made it clear that all the nerd rage about not being able to upgrade to WP8.0 was a bit premature. But alas...

    I completely understand the OP.

    Still, I definitely wouldn't spend money on a WP7 device at this point, unless you really want to carry around two devices. I still get the occasional update on my Lumia 800, but compared to WP8 it is pretty much dead.

    Negative. My 1520 feels nothing like a feature phone.
    08-29-2014 11:42 PM
  19. a5cent's Avatar
    Negative. My 1520 feels nothing like a feature phone.
    Just to be clear, I did say WP8.0. With that I mean pre GDR2. I doubt that is what you have on your 1520 ;-)

    Put that on your 1520, and it will feel pretty much like WP7 did...
    Muessig likes this.
    08-30-2014 12:07 AM
  20. Simon Gregory's Avatar
    You might want to vote for this uservoice suggestion:
    http://xboxmusic.uservoice.com/forum...ds-an-overhaul
    08-30-2014 12:27 AM
  21. Zulfigar's Avatar
    I used to have a Venue Pro and I loved it! But when it broke I got a WP8 and It's not nearly as good. Mainly because of Xbox Music. I keep hoping that it'll get better, but it just gets worse with every update. I love everything about the Zune software and I have a Zune/Xbox music pass. I'm just wondering about apps... I'm not really a heavy app user (If I was I'd have an Android) but are any new apps compatible with WP7?
    I can see where you're going with this, and yes, I agree that Zune is still ahead of the current Xbox Music software they have out, both on the phone and computer (I still use the computer software), but having Cortana helps me get past, or at lest help cover up, the problems. I wish wireless sync would come back, but saying "Cortana play..." makes playing anything a lot easier than anything in WP7.

    Come on Xbox Music team, get some pointers from your old software.
    08-30-2014 12:30 AM
  22. DavidinCT's Avatar
    All this romanticism about Zune.

    It was pretty, but basically not great. So, it could sync with WP7... That was about it. It's gone, dead. Forget it and move on....
    MS will finally sort out XB Music Player, and they will I'm sure.
    Ok, let me get this strait... Your on a Windows 7 desktop. Your choice is The Windows Phone app for Windows 7 OR Zune. What do you chose ?

    The WP app for WP7 is a joke, its ugly and is designed to do 1 thing, sync your phone, Not even close to what Zune offered as feature or even playback of content. I do really miss this feature, in fact, when I connect my phone to my PC, I close the WP app and just is Windows explorer to copy images over and music over.

    Now as the OP is thinking, If you were able to get yourself a 7.8 device and you could find the apps that you use every day for WP7, you should be good for a while. It should give you the day to day things like a WP8/8.1 device gives you before everyone freaking out, the day to day is, checking email, running apps, listening to music, the layout with the smaller tiles are there and WP7 layout is exactly like WP8...

    It's just a matter of time before support for WP7.8 ends, then you have to make a choice, live with what you have or move on.

    Maybe MS will fix the mess of Music and Xbox hub in WP 8.1....MAYBE but, till then you have an option but, I wont give up my ICON to go back....
    08-31-2014 11:58 AM
  23. negative1ne's Avatar
    It's just a matter of time before support for WP7.8 ends, then you have to make a choice, live with what you have or move on.

    Maybe MS will fix the mess of Music and Xbox hub in WP 8.1....MAYBE but, till then you have an option but, I wont give up my ICON to go back....
    support for windows phone 7.8 ends in 8 days.

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    Windows Phone 7.8 2/9/2013 9/9/2014 Review Note Microsoft will make updates available for the Operating System on your phone, including security updates, for a period of 18 months after the lifecycle start date. Distribution of the updates may be controlled by the mobile operator or the phone manufacturer from which you purchased your phone. Update availability will also vary by country, region, and hardware capabilities.
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    guess what. it doesn't matter.

    i'll still use this phone until it breaks, and then i'll buy another used one, and use that.

    there is no point for me in switching to windows phone 8 or 8.1 or 8.1 update 1. it just doesn't work.

    if they keep refusing to fix issues, and not offer hardware support and other features, i will continue to use a phone that works.

    not one with 'broken' features.

    later
    -1
    09-01-2014 10:12 AM
  24. Ashalinia's Avatar
    support for windows phone 7.8 ends in 8 days.

    Products Released Lifecycle Start Date Mainstream Support End Date Extended Support End Date Service Pack Support End Date Notes
    ================================================================================================================
    Windows Phone 7.8 2/9/2013 9/9/2014 Review Note Microsoft will make updates available for the Operating System on your phone, including security updates, for a period of 18 months after the lifecycle start date. Distribution of the updates may be controlled by the mobile operator or the phone manufacturer from which you purchased your phone. Update availability will also vary by country, region, and hardware capabilities.
    ================================================================================================================
    Microsoft Product Lifecycle Search


    guess what. it doesn't matter.

    i'll still use this phone until it breaks, and then i'll buy another used one, and use that.

    there is no point for me in switching to windows phone 8 or 8.1 or 8.1 update 1. it just doesn't work.

    if they keep refusing to fix issues, and not offer hardware support and other features, i will continue to use a phone that works.

    not one with 'broken' features.

    later
    -1
    I understand the need to back up your decision of sticking with Windows Phone 7.x by advocating the pros of it, but insulting Windows Phone 8.x by bashing it is unnecessary and saying it doesn't work is simply untrue.

    This is coming from a former Lumia 710 user. Yes, 7.5 and 7.8 were great, but they were by no means better than their successors in most ways.
    09-01-2014 01:18 PM
  25. colinkiama's Avatar
    I used to have a Venue Pro and I loved it! But when it broke I got a WP8 and It's not nearly as good. Mainly because of Xbox Music. I keep hoping that it'll get better, but it just gets worse with every update. I love everything about the Zune software and I have a Zune/Xbox music pass. I'm just wondering about apps... I'm not really a heavy app user (If I was I'd have an Android) but are any new apps compatible with WP7?
    buy a zune hd on amazon or ebay and get a new windows phone. Trust me, WP7 won't be supported anymore this month. You are not going to have a good time going back to an old device.
    berty6294 likes this.
    09-01-2014 01:29 PM
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