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  1. Cryio's Avatar
    Windows Phone 8.1 review: Major league - GSMArena.com

    You'll even find a lenghty comment of mine somewhere around the comments. Should be easily spot-able

    Really really poor handling. And to think they did a solid job on the WP 7/8 reviews.
    kyriacou48 and cckgz4 like this.
    04-21-2014 05:44 PM
  2. kyriacou48's Avatar
    I almost punched my computer monitor reading this:

    "What's still missing:

    • System-wide file manager
    • Options for more quick toggles
    • Battery percentage on the status bar
    • Richer app catalog
    • Cortana is some way behind Android and iOS rivals"

    Some simply just don't get it. Since when is a file manager something that's "missing"?

    iOS has been like this since the start - why not take a hit iOS, hmm?

    "Options for more quick toggles" - If they are referring to turning off mobile data, then yes. but otherwise, everything is there and customisable..

    "Battery percentage on the status bar" - flip down the action center and boom, battery percentage. are these reviewers serious?

    "Richer App Catalog" - absolutely nothing to do with the OS. Yet another lame addition to the review.

    "Cortana is still some way behind its competitors" - Hmm, I wonder why? Oh that's right, it's in BETA.

    That's actually the first or second time i've visited GSMArena - I won't ever visit again. Not because i'm being fanboyish or anything like that - my view on the review was nothing but professional. The issue at hand is that it just misses the point in so many ways, and it truly feels like they spent 10 minutes with the OS before reviewing it. Appalling.
    04-21-2014 07:45 PM
  3. kyriacou48's Avatar
    P.S - Check out Michael Fisher from Pocketnow's review of WP 8.1 - Best review i've seen so far.

    He knows his WP pretty well for a guy who uses all different phones:

    Windows Phone 8.1 review (Video) | Pocketnow
    04-21-2014 07:54 PM
  4. WavingReds's Avatar
    P.S - Check out Michael Fisher from Pocketnow's review of WP 8.1 - Best review i've seen so far.

    He knows his WP pretty well for a guy who uses all different phones:

    Windows Phone 8.1 review (Video) | Pocketnow
    Michael Fisher is the ONLY person that I'd listen to for reviews, he's unbias and does him homework
    multo, kyriacou48, Cryio and 10 others like this.
    04-21-2014 08:18 PM
  5. alex_froilan's Avatar
    I take it that it was mostly a Prasad guy who constructed the review. I hear there's a lot of Microsoft criticism at gsmarena, and also on Pocketnow (Jaime and Doud).
    04-21-2014 08:24 PM
  6. mrllano's Avatar
    As a user of WP 8.1 i really love it. We all have different opinions.
    04-21-2014 08:27 PM
  7. acewing905's Avatar
    I almost punched my computer monitor reading this:

    "What's still missing:

    • System-wide file manager
    • Options for more quick toggles
    • Battery percentage on the status bar
    • Richer app catalog
    • Cortana is some way behind Android and iOS rivals"

    Some simply just don't get it. Since when is a file manager something that's "missing"?

    iOS has been like this since the start - why not take a hit iOS, hmm?

    "Options for more quick toggles" - If they are referring to turning off mobile data, then yes. but otherwise, everything is there and customisable..

    "Battery percentage on the status bar" - flip down the action center and boom, battery percentage. are these reviewers serious?

    "Richer App Catalog" - absolutely nothing to do with the OS. Yet another lame addition to the review.

    "Cortana is still some way behind its competitors" - Hmm, I wonder why? Oh that's right, it's in BETA.

    That's actually the first or second time i've visited GSMArena - I won't ever visit again. Not because i'm being fanboyish or anything like that - my view on the review was nothing but professional. The issue at hand is that it just misses the point in so many ways, and it truly feels like they spent 10 minutes with the OS before reviewing it. Appalling.
    System-wide file manager is indeed something that's missing. It's a feature that even old Symbian Nokia phones years ago had. It's something iOS is also missing, but WP should aim to be better than iOS.

    You're right about the rest, anyhow.
    ronty and A895 like this.
    04-21-2014 09:10 PM
  8. kyriacou48's Avatar
    System-wide file manager is indeed something that's missing. It's a feature that even old Symbian Nokia phones years ago had. It's something iOS is also missing, but WP should aim to be better than iOS.

    You're right about the rest, anyhow.
    I think it's needed to some extent for phones with SD Card storage. I store all my files on Onedrive so it's not quite as bothersome, but yeah I see the gripe people have it.
    snowmutt likes this.
    04-21-2014 10:38 PM
  9. Arjun KR's Avatar
    There is a temporary solution for file manager, try "Aerize Explorer"
    aximtreo likes this.
    04-21-2014 10:53 PM
  10. planoman's Avatar
    Michael Fisher is the ONLY person that I'd listen to for reviews, he's unbias and does him homework
    +1 on Fisher. He knows his stuff.

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
    Last edited by planoman; 04-22-2014 at 09:22 PM.
    04-21-2014 11:11 PM
  11. Aadinath Kshirsagar's Avatar
    P.S - Check out Michael Fisher from Pocketnow's review of WP 8.1 - Best review i've seen so far.

    He knows his WP pretty well for a guy who uses all different phones:

    Windows Phone 8.1 review (Video) | Pocketnow
    04-21-2014 11:18 PM
  12. kyriacou48's Avatar
    Yeah, I think because Michael came from being a real WebOS enthusiast that he can appreciate the underdogs and less favourable OS'. Do yourself a favour all: open your Podcast app and subscribe to the Pocketnow Weekly - he is awesome on there and while some of the guys can say some stupid things about WP, Michael Fisher interjects and updates with fact. He's a really unbiased tech buff.
    Karthik Naik, xandros9 and benrp like this.
    04-22-2014 12:37 AM
  13. acewing905's Avatar
    I think it's needed to some extent for phones with SD Card storage. I store all my files on Onedrive so it's not quite as bothersome, but yeah I see the gripe people have it.
    OneDrive is not a solution for a majority of users in the world. A lot of people who have frequent access to high speed WiFi or have unlimited data plans seem to often forget that there is a world beyond the minority that they are.
    ronty, KrisJoeEll, A895 and 7 others like this.
    04-22-2014 02:00 AM
  14. A895's Avatar
    It makes me so angry some reviewer does not praise every aspect of my OS of choice./s

    The missing parts are all valid complaints. And just because they make one review you don`t like you write them off for good? You guys sound like BlackBerry fans right now when reviewers didn`t give BlackBerry a fair shake. I implore you guys to shake it off and keep it moving, it`s not that serious. If you like WP8.1 then you don`t need a reviewer to validate your preferences.
    04-22-2014 08:00 AM
  15. jlzimmerman's Avatar
    Michael Fisher is the ONLY person that I'd listen to for reviews, he's unbias and does him homework
    Yes. Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview is also very good.
    A895, chezm, snowmutt and 3 others like this.
    04-22-2014 08:12 AM
  16. A895's Avatar
    Yes. Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview is also very good.
    I have been watching her reviews for years. If you don`t mind long in-depth reviews she is the best. Michael Fisher comes right next to her. Those are the ones I watch if I want to see a video review of a device.
    04-22-2014 08:18 AM
  17. boasist's Avatar
    The app catalog for Windows Phone is incredibly lacking, I don't get why so many people don't think so. I can see that your use of the phone doesn't bring you to lots of apps, or specific apps that don't exist at all (like myself). But in comparison, as a whole, to android or ios, it's lacking big time.
    04-22-2014 08:50 AM
  18. Nakazul's Avatar
    The app catalog for Windows Phone is incredibly lacking, I don't get why so many people don't think so. I can see that your use of the phone doesn't bring you to lots of apps, or specific apps that don't exist at all (like myself). But in comparison, as a whole, to android or ios, it's lacking big time.
    There complaining that its voiced in a OS review. The store have nothing to do with the OS. If there is a app gap or not is irrelevant. I also would like to call BS on making a full review of 8.1 because its not a finished product yet. It's a Developer Preview.
    04-22-2014 09:07 AM
  19. chezm's Avatar
    Yes. Lisa Gade from MobileTechReview is also very good.
    Lisa is awesome, i really appreciate her reviews on all devices and straight-up honest opinions.
    A895 and Guytronic like this.
    04-22-2014 09:12 AM
  20. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    The app catalog for Windows Phone is incredibly lacking, I don't get why so many people don't think so. I can see that your use of the phone doesn't bring you to lots of apps, or specific apps that don't exist at all (like myself). But in comparison, as a whole, to android or ios, it's lacking big time.
    Lacking in what? Useless game apps for adolescents?

    It's time to be more specific in saying this?

    There are some quality apps missing,some of these are just for ios or android,and if you choose to lament over the fact that they aren't ported over that can't be helped.

    The Windows store is getting better every day,and will continue to.

    The one thing I have always known being a long time IOS and Android user is more isn't always better.

    Mac
    04-22-2014 09:17 AM
  21. Chris_Kez's Avatar
    I managed to avoid reading the article, but I was foolish and weak enough to start reading the comments. WTF is wrong with people?
    04-22-2014 09:22 AM
  22. A895's Avatar
    There complaining that its voiced in a OS review. The store have nothing to do with the OS. If there is a app gap or not is irrelevant. I also would like to call BS on making a full review of 8.1 because its not a finished product yet. It's a Developer Preview.
    So WPCentral and other sites making a review was BS too huh?
    04-22-2014 09:27 AM
  23. A895's Avatar
    Lacking in what? Useless game apps for adolescents?

    It's time to be more specific in saying this?

    There are some quality apps missing,some of these are just for ios or android,and if you choose to lament over the fact that they aren't ported over that can't be helped.

    The Windows store is getting better every day,and will continue to.

    The one thing I have always known being a long time IOS and Android user is more isn't always better.

    Mac
    You and I both know, there are some really useful apps that aren`t on WP. But then again, unless you really used other platforms such as Android or iOS for an extended period of time, you of course wouldn`t notice or care.
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    04-22-2014 09:29 AM
  24. Dantekai14's Avatar
    GSMArena is the most honest site for review.
    I don't know why you guys are Angry.

    1)System-wide file manager
    is their a proper file manger in WP in which you can arrange files according to name or date or else. I think not.
    This site is the biggest joke of the century .Feature Suggestions: Top (50217 ideas) – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone
    I don't know why this site exist if MS doesn't provide what users want.

    2)Options for more quick toggles
    Isn't their a limitation of 4 to 5 .
    So, what wrong with this limitation. I think next update probably gonna solve this but still it's a limitation in WP8.1

    3)Battery percentage on the status bar
    Well their isn't a percentage bar. It's in notification. But I don't know how this is a limitation?
    Who care for Battery percentage on the status bar.
    I don't know what are GSMArena was thinking.

    4)Richer app catalog
    Totally agreed. considering Android and iOS app ecosystem
    Example - Their is only one decent video player in WP(Moli Player) which is paid on WP and free on Android where as Android have VLC, MXplayer etc lot more than that and they are free. Moli player never consider as good as them in Android.


    5)Cortana is some way behind Android and iOS rivals
    No it's not just some way behind but a long way behind. First of all it is only available for US.
    Even if you use it by changing region you will face accuracy problem, and cortana also not able to give much information.
    It's just USA only.
    So, Yeah Totally agreed Lony way behind GN and Siri..

    4 out of 5 is 100% true limitation of WP.
    So, why angry?
    Better learn to except the truth instead of getting Angry.
    04-22-2014 09:41 AM
  25. avigyan's Avatar
    There are certain things that I would really like MS to improve upon.
    1. When I go to a music album and try to send, say two songs together via Bluetooth, I can't. I rather need to choose individually and send them.
    2. I still can't send videos via Bluetooth. In fact, the entire video aspect in WP is pretty lacking. Videos still get stored in Photos hub instead of the new Videos app MS gave us. I had thought that MS would remove all these restrictions pertinent to video in 8.1 but I dunno what really happened. I might be mistaken here, so if they have removed or something, correct me.
    3. They gave us a lot in Windows Phone 8.1 but took away some of the most unique features of the OS. None of the hubs, and not even the store, now has the beautiful background it previously used to have - something that made WP so appealing.
    4. I don't really need a file manager but I would definitely like to see what's stored on my device - all in one place, instead of jumping between hubs.
    5. The Facebook scene in Windows Phone is awful. They could have improved on what we had in WP8, like the built-in social hub, but they did away with it to a large extent in favour of some really lacking individual apps.
    5. A better dialer. What we have now is fine but why doesn't the dialer integrate with the contacts hub so that when we type someone's name or number, it autofills or at least shows suggestions for available contacts?

    Overall, I love ❤ MS to the bottom of my heart and even if I ever stop using a WP (God forbid), I shall love it. I respect the company for addressing most of the grievances of the people in just one year and now what they have provided us with is really really commendable. Yet there's always room for improvement and thus list is just for the betterment.
    Karthik Naik likes this.
    04-22-2014 10:21 AM
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