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  1. Muessig's Avatar
    There are a huge number of repetitive threads here consistently asking the same information or for tips and tricks to do with everything Xbox Music, so here's a thread where we can share knowledge, about everything Music on the WP 8.1 Developer Preview.

    Please try to keep everything helpful and useful
    04-28-2014 01:39 PM
  2. Lundon44's Avatar
    There are a huge number of repetitive threads here consistently asking the same information or for tips and tricks to do with everything Xbox Music, so here's a thread where we can share knowledge, about everything Music on the WP 8.1 Developer Preview.
    Sounds good.

    So yes we all know the new music app sucks..

    My question is if I have cloud syncing turned off in the settings why are they are still showing up??

    Am I doing something wrong?
    04-28-2014 02:04 PM
  3. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    Sounds good.

    So yes we all know the new music app sucks..

    My question is if I have cloud syncing turned off in the settings why are they are still showing up??

    Am I doing something wrong?
    What it is showing?

    Mine is hiding the offline albums that I've deleted before, and showing only the offline and online albums that I've not deleted.

    EDIT: And you can select only music on your phone (offline), only music on straming or both.
    04-28-2014 02:10 PM
  4. Lundon44's Avatar
    What it is showing?

    Mine is hiding the offline albums that I've deleted before, and showing only the offline and online albums that I've not deleted.

    EDIT: And you can select only music on your phone (offline), only music on straming or both.
    So with "Show streaming music in my collection" set to off all my playlists from my PC now appear. They all show 0 songs in each playlist except for the only I actually transferred. I don't know why these are showing up.

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    04-28-2014 02:46 PM
  5. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    So with "Show streaming music in my collection" set to off all my playlists from my PC now appear. They all show 0 songs in each playlist except for the only I actually transferred. I don't know why these are showing up.

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    Try this:

    - Activate the "Show streaming music in my collection"
    - Go to "playlists" option
    - at top, below the "playlists" word there is an option where you can select what you want to be shown.
    04-28-2014 02:58 PM
  6. Tezler's Avatar
    Following 8.1 install and a clear out of all music from SD card, followed by placing 3 albums on it I have issues. Whilst I can see the 3 new albums and play them, I also have listed some of the removed albums (not sure if all or not). In trying to play them it will just crap out to main screen, on shuffle it will end on one of the 3 albums which do exist and start to play.

    Looked at the SD and the card defo only has the 3 albums. Issue however is on the phone storage side under music I can see these album files (they seem to be files and not folders). Issue is can't remove them as protected and can't change protection. Also phone storage reports 0kb on music.

    Very annoying, any solution bar hard resetting etc.

    Thanks.
    04-28-2014 03:00 PM
  7. Lundon44's Avatar
    Try this:

    - Activate the "Show streaming music in my collection"
    - Go to "playlists" option
    - at top, below the "playlists" word there is an option where you can select what you want to be shown.
    Took your suggestion. After trying it, all the playlists previously listed show up no matter if I pick phone only, SD or all music. Very odd that they would sync to the phone with that feature turned off. If I plug in my phone to my PC and navigate to the playlist folder within Music on the phone, they only playlist showing up is the one I manually synced.
    04-28-2014 03:07 PM
  8. Siah1214's Avatar
    My question right now is why is this app worse (for syncing / performance) than the Xbox Music app that was recently released as a preview for WP8? I never had the black screen issues, and syncing seemed to work a lot better. Overall performance was much better. Somehow the quality went down from the Xbox Music PREVIEW that was released for 8, to the Music app for 8.1. Can we get an app developer to make a better 3rd party one? :-\

    Oh, and there was a "never use data" option, not just "don't show streaming music" because even with that turned off it still plays some cloud-only music. Found that out the hard way the other day.

    Xpider, this is the reason why I and others are worried. We get that it's a preview, but the music experience on Windows phone has NEVER improved. I've had WP7.5 phones, WP8 phones, and now 8.1, and with ever iteration it gets a little worse (or a lot)
    That's why I'm worried.
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    04-28-2014 03:46 PM
  9. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    Xpider, this is the reason why I and others are worried. We get that it's a preview, but the music experience on Windows phone has NEVER improved. I've had WP7.5 phones, WP8 phones, and now 8.1, and with ever iteration it gets a little worse (or a lot)
    That's why I'm worried.
    Well, I was talking about the issues in the music app, bugs that can be repaired. You are talking about the "experience", the features you want, and maybe it will never fill your expectations.

    I can live with the WP8 experience, just I don't want any bugs, and I'm sure the WP equip will work hard for solving all the bugs before WP8.1 launch.
    04-28-2014 04:06 PM
  10. tapehead's Avatar
    I just do not understand why 3rd party developers can write an awesome app in about 3 days (Rudy Huyn, what?), but Microsoft can't do it in months.

    I also don't understand why Listen and countless other music apps seem to load mp3s instantly whereas Xbox Music does not.

    For the record, it does not work AT ALL on my 520. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Since the most recent Xbox Music update, the app gets stuck on the "Loading..." screen and then immediately crashes. Every. Single. Time.
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    04-28-2014 04:50 PM
  11. Xpider_MX's Avatar
    I just do not understand why 3rd party developers can write an awesome app in about 3 days (Rudy Huyn, what?), but Microsoft can't do it in months.
    Because we are talking about a music player, a Xbox Music client and a Xbox Music Store client. Are you a developer? I am a dev (not phone apps dev) and it is not easy as pleople think.

    I also don't understand why Listen and countless other music apps seem to load mp3s instantly whereas Xbox Music does not.
    Same reason.

    For the record, it does not work AT ALL on my 520. And I'm not being hyperbolic. Since the most recent Xbox Music update, the app gets stuck on the "Loading..." screen and then immediately crashes. Every. Single. Time.
    Then, something go wrong at update, I guess a soft reset or hard reset will do the work. You also can back to 8.0, it is a OS+Firmware solution, with finished system apps.
    04-28-2014 09:08 PM
  12. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I haven't even looked at loading all my music and movies yet Si I have a question.

    Can we use double tap on the PC to load everything we need and bypass using Xbox completely?

    Mac

    Sent from my RM-940_nam_att_200 using Tapatalk
    04-28-2014 11:23 PM
  13. Ankit Nawlakha's Avatar
    I am facing a problem with the Xbox Music app which is so damn annoying!
    Many of song's artist is unrecognizable and it shows Unknown Artist!
    But in the Artist's Section there is no "Unknown Artist".!
    Is there any fix for it?? Or I'll have to wait for the update??
    04-28-2014 11:47 PM
  14. tapehead's Avatar
    Because we are talking about a music player, a Xbox Music client and a Xbox Music Store client. Are you a developer? I am a dev (not phone apps dev) and it is not easy as pleople think.
    No, I'm not a developer. But I think the issue here is some sort of issue with overall project management and not the developers. I mean, if Rudy Huyn power through an app in one week, go through a beta testing, fix all the bugs, and then drop it publicly to critical and commercial acclaim, I don't think the biggest computer company in the world should be lagging. I get that it's a store and a player, but come on. Given how many other competent music players exist in the Marketplace right now, I see no reason why Microsoft should be dropping the ball. This doesn't seem to be an issue for Apple or Google.

    Then, something go wrong at update, I guess a soft reset or hard reset will do the work. You also can back to 8.0, it is a OS+Firmware solution, with finished system apps.
    I've reset the phone a billion times. And I really should not have to hard reset the phone just for an app update. That kind of defeats the purpose of an update. I already hard reset it after I installed Windows Phone 8.1, so if I did it again... I would just have to update it again, and wouldn't I be stuck in the same boat? I'm running 8.0 on my daily driver. I'm following 8.1's development on my 520 to see if I'm going to switch to the iPhone upon 8.1's release or not. As much as I love Windows Phone 8, I'd rather use Windows Phone 7 pre-Mango than 8.1 in its current condition.
    Kevin Rush likes this.
    04-29-2014 03:51 AM
  15. TheWPFan's Avatar
    I noticed the last music app update was a universal app. My biggest issue is the album artwork not showing. All my music shows artwork in the File Explorer preview pane and Windows Media Player on Windows 8...
    04-29-2014 05:57 AM
  16. Tezler's Avatar
    Following 8.1 install and a clear out of all music from SD card, followed by placing 3 albums on it I have issues. Whilst I can see the 3 new albums and play them, I also have listed some of the removed albums (not sure if all or not). In trying to play them it will just crap out to main screen, on shuffle it will end on one of the 3 albums which do exist and start to play.

    Looked at the SD and the card defo only has the 3 albums. Issue however is on the phone storage side under music I can see these album files (they seem to be files and not folders). Issue is can't remove them as protected and can't change protection. Also phone storage reports 0kb on music.

    Very annoying, any solution bar hard resetting etc.

    Thanks.
    Sorry to bump this but any one experience the same and manage to solve? Would rather not have to install all apps again.. Altho not sure what is best given the protected files are on the phone and not the SD where all apps are.
    04-29-2014 03:01 PM
  17. tapehead's Avatar
    Sorry to bump this but any one experience the same and manage to solve? Would rather not have to install all apps again.. Altho not sure what is best given the protected files are on the phone and not the SD where all apps are.
    Check the SD card from your computer side. When I upgraded to 8.1, it had somehow corrupted some of my albums and replaced them with .1kb place holders.
    04-30-2014 03:57 AM
  18. Tezler's Avatar
    Check the SD card from your computer side. When I upgraded to 8.1, it had somehow corrupted some of my albums and replaced them with .1kb place holders.
    That is what's happened BUT on the phone storage side of things. SD is fine! Can't remove these 1kb hidden files as they are protected. Worryingly imagine only solution is to hard reset phone.
    04-30-2014 06:38 AM
  19. tapehead's Avatar
    That is what's happened BUT on the phone storage side of things. SD is fine! Can't remove these 1kb hidden files as they are protected. Worryingly imagine only solution is to hard reset phone.
    They're protected? That's just... ugh. Yup. You're going to have to hard reset to get rid of them, methinks.
    04-30-2014 08:26 AM
  20. tcedwards's Avatar
    Ive played around with Xbox Music for awhile now, here are my thoughts of what is needed.

    http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...box-music.html

    Its defiantly a work in progress, if they work on some of the problems I describe and continue to add features it will be a nice app. But right now, totally broken.

    Another thing I was wondering, how can we get MS to add photos of artists to xbox music? On the old app artist Hoodie Allen had a picture and now he doesn't? I pin artists to my start screen in my "Music" section and they show pictures of his albums, which makes the screen look cluttered.

    Here is what I mean
    music.jpg.jpg
    wp_ss_20140430_0005.jpg

    As you can see Juicy J, Dizzy Wright, and Hoodie Allen do not have artist pictures, just their albums, which looks bad imo
    04-30-2014 11:38 AM
  21. tcedwards's Avatar
    Following 8.1 install and a clear out of all music from SD card, followed by placing 3 albums on it I have issues. Whilst I can see the 3 new albums and play them, I also have listed some of the removed albums (not sure if all or not). In trying to play them it will just crap out to main screen, on shuffle it will end on one of the 3 albums which do exist and start to play.

    Looked at the SD and the card defo only has the 3 albums. Issue however is on the phone storage side under music I can see these album files (they seem to be files and not folders). Issue is can't remove them as protected and can't change protection. Also phone storage reports 0kb on music.

    Very annoying, any solution bar hard resetting etc.

    Thanks.

    Well I reset my phone (Icon) before I added my music to wp8.1 also. This did not happen to me, id say reset again.
    Also when I really jumped into Xbox Music, I deleted everything out of my cloud collection on the W8 app, and downloaded everything I wanted from the XBM store. I then added my own songs not in the store, (fill in song name, artists, and ALBUM, otherwise it will not sync right to your WP from W8), and finally made playlists.
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    04-30-2014 11:45 AM
  22. tcedwards's Avatar
    There is a lot of stuff wrong with XBM, but I would like to point out something I find awesome, Playlist sync. I have XBM on my Icon, 2520, and x51 desktop. I hear a song I like on the radio in my car, find it with cortana, add to collection and my playlist "New", and bam when I get home the song is on my 2520 and x51 already downloaded and in the correct playlist. Now if they could only make a true syncing app for songs not in the XBM store and it would solve a lot of BS problems people are having which causes this nice feature to be overlooked.
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    04-30-2014 11:49 AM
  23. anon(8657436)'s Avatar
    No, I'm not a developer. But I think the issue here is some sort of issue with overall project management and not the developers. I mean, if Rudy Huyn power through an app in one week, go through a beta testing, fix all the bugs, and then drop it publicly to critical and commercial acclaim, I don't think the biggest computer company in the world should be lagging. I get that it's a store and a player, but come on. Given how many other competent music players exist in the Marketplace right now, I see no reason why Microsoft should be dropping the ball. This doesn't seem to be an issue for Apple or Google.

    I've reset the phone a billion times. And I really should not have to hard reset the phone just for an app update. That kind of defeats the purpose of an update. I already hard reset it after I installed Windows Phone 8.1, so if I did it again... I would just have to update it again, and wouldn't I be stuck in the same boat? I'm running 8.0 on my daily driver. I'm following 8.1's development on my 520 to see if I'm going to switch to the iPhone upon 8.1's release or not. As much as I love Windows Phone 8, I'd rather use Windows Phone 7 pre-Mango than 8.1 in its current condition.
    The main thing lies in the fact that Mobile is a relatively new thing at microsoft and they haven't focused enough resources there. They had to develop Cortana, develop the new features in WP8.1, test them and roll them out to the desperate users out here only within a span of 4 to 5 months at max.
    I develop apps for windows for my personal use and believe me, if you have to develop a complete set of applications, you NEED to have a VERY LARGE team. Case in point, I designed a OS skin (it runs as an executable but provides a different visual experience than the windows 7 one) and to just create the skin it took me about a week to develop the skin alone. And to add a working windows explorer, it took me a week. Creating custom music players, video players, keyboard UI will each take up about min. of a week and that too only because most of the controls are prewritten in Visual .NET and Visual C#.
    04-30-2014 12:08 PM
  24. Judas20's Avatar
    Some album arts are missing in Xbox Music but they show in Nokia Mixradio. Btw has anyone else noticed that Xbox music replaces all your album arts?
    04-30-2014 12:40 PM
  25. anon(8657436)'s Avatar
    I have this problem recently of not being able to lower headphone volume *sometimes* (random, but more noticeable with MixRadio) when the screen is locked. ANYONE FACING THE SAME PROBLEM???? I did restart my phone twice but am not keen on a reset.
    04-30-2014 01:13 PM
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