05-04-2014 10:05 AM
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  1. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    ...because people want to see the damn file manager solution! The ambiguity is killing people, so this discussion is all anxiety.
    We don't have the details and we won't have the details until MS releases WP8.1, hopefully in April. So anxiety or not, going on about a subject that's been talked about to death is rather pointless. Thing is I'm seeing the same discussion as before, same answers, same arguments. It's boring.

    Can't people just be happy a solution is coming and wait and see what it is? If it still doesn't suit your needs change OS. It's not that hard, really.
    02-17-2014 03:25 AM
  2. ronty's Avatar
    Arrgh, file manager on the Phone is what we mean! Do you really think Microsoft would have a file manager via usb?
    Sorry to ask you,but where did I say about a file manager via USB? I too want a file manager on the phone itself.
    02-17-2014 03:41 AM
  3. ohgood's Avatar
    Um, iPhone doesn't have a built in file manger. You need an app for that.
    didn't see the iPhone deflection coming.

    thanks for the info about what iPhone -can- do, I don't own one myself. i'll edit my post now to see the point easier.
    02-17-2014 04:24 AM
  4. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    didn't see the iPhone deflection coming.

    thanks for the info about what iPhone -can- do, I don't own one myself. i'll edit my post now to see the point easier.
    WP is pretty much a copy of iPhone in a lot of ways. The biggest difference is the functionality and the open APIs. I think with WP8.1 we will see better development for WP and more interest from developers.
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    02-17-2014 05:31 AM
  5. a5cent's Avatar
    if folks want to believe that file access is impossible to implement for a software company, that's cool
    Nobody said it is not possible. The point is that there are many reasons not to implement the feature, despite it being technically possible.

    iPhone needs an app, I stand corrected, but its apparently possible on iPhone
    That too is incorrect. You must jailbreak the iPhone if you really want a file manager, which very few are willing to do (that is something I have not seen yet on WP). For the none geek-population however, the only alternative is to use an app that can upload/download files between isolated storage and the internet. Apps exist on WP that do the same thing, but none of those apps can do all the things people here are expecting from a file manager. Like N_LaRUE said, WP and iOS are architecturally very similar. Apple doesn't allow a file manager for the same reason MS doesn't.
    02-17-2014 08:15 AM
  6. ohgood's Avatar
    I think with WP8.1 we will see better development for WP and more interest from developers.
    why do you think it will change with this release?

    do you think users will be allowed to use their files as they wish?


    (getting back on track from the iPhone distraction/deflection)
    02-17-2014 09:17 AM
  7. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    why do you think it will change with this release?

    do you think users will be allowed to use their files as they wish?

    (getting back on track from the iPhone distraction/deflection)
    Going by what's been published so far I think there will be better APIs available to make more interesting apps and functions. I'm thinking that things may be a bit looser than they have been which I think has been part of the issues with some apps and their development. I won't say all. So I see more exciting things coming.

    As for file management. I'm thinking we'll see a file manager installed on top of Skydrive/OneDrive where you can access a certain file area on your phone and SD Card. Whether it will be what everyone wants, I don't know. We simply don't have enough detail. If it acts like Skydrive and allows you to create folders and access things the way people want then I see it as a good solution and we can all move forward from here. Hopefully apps will be able to utilise it like they do the regular Skydrive. I just hope no one thinks they're getting some full fledged file manager system cause we're not. It's going to be a sandboxed solution is what I'm thinking. Too many people expect a lot out of file managers but I don't think a phone really needs that high of level. We just need the basics and that should be good enough.
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    02-17-2014 09:53 AM
  8. a5cent's Avatar
    I just hope no one thinks they're getting some full fledged file manager system cause we're not. It's going to be a sandboxed solution is what I'm thinking. Too many people expect a lot out of file managers but I don't think a phone really needs that high of level. We just need the basics and that should be good enough.
    A screenshot of a file picker has also been floating around the web. I suspect that is our solution for attaching arbitrary files to e-mails. I haven't yet looked at the SDK, but I suspect each app will require some modifications before this works.

    To me, it looks like WP8.1 will bring a combination of things:
    • Adding some file management capabilities to OneDrive seems to be a rather sure bet at this point
    • The File Picker is probably also something we can expect to see in the final build...
    • Maybe more...

    ~
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    02-17-2014 10:45 AM
  9. ohgood's Avatar
    Going by what's been published so far I think there will be better APIs available to make more interesting apps and functions. I'm thinking that things may be a bit looser than they have been which I think has been part of the issues with some apps and their development. I won't say all. So I see more exciting things coming.

    As for file management. I'm thinking we'll see a file manager installed on top of Skydrive/OneDrive where you can access a certain file area on your phone and SD Card. Whether it will be what everyone wants, I don't know. We simply don't have enough detail. If it acts like Skydrive and allows you to create folders and access things the way people want then I see it as a good solution and we can all move forward from here. Hopefully apps will be able to utilise it like they do the regular Skydrive. I just hope no one thinks they're getting some full fledged file manager system cause we're not. It's going to be a sandboxed solution is what I'm thinking. Too many people expect a lot out of file managers but I don't think a phone really needs that high of level. We just need the basics and that should be good enough.
    man, I hope you're wrong. I don't think a stripped down version is going to gather much attention, or satisfy what people are asking for.

    but, we'll see
    02-17-2014 07:29 PM
  10. tgp's Avatar
    • Adding some file management capabilities to OneDrive seems to be a rather sure bet at this point
    I've been reading rumors of at least a limited file explorer in OneDrive. I'm wondering though how that's going to work on local storage. Is the idea that OneDrive will manage the local libraries as well?
    02-17-2014 08:32 PM
  11. a5cent's Avatar
    Although my predictions relating to file access on WP seem to have been accurate (at least based on the limited info from the SDK leaks so far), I wouldn't know how to guess at the details of MS' chosen solutions. I can think of more than a dozen ways how MS might approach the topic, but yes, that is the general idea. I could imagine you'd see the OneDrive root folder when a WP8.1 device is plugged into a PC. It might also contain the Music and Video folders, but set to "not sync" by default. Just wild speculation though...
    02-17-2014 11:14 PM
  12. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    man, I hope you're wrong. I don't think a stripped down version is going to gather much attention, or satisfy what people are asking for.

    but, we'll see
    I think a striped down version is the only option. It's the best compromise between function and security. Giving the best of both worlds. It will satisfy those who need some form of file manager and those who could care less. We're not going to get an Android like file manager, maybe if they finally jailbreak the OS it will come but I wouldn't bother with that anyway.
    02-18-2014 01:42 AM
  13. Rakesh Racky's Avatar
    02-18-2014 10:39 PM
  14. Jazmac's Avatar
    I use my computer to manage files on my phone. Seems to work for me.
    02-18-2014 10:50 PM
  15. Rakesh Racky's Avatar
    02-18-2014 10:52 PM
  16. Wp8 lvr's Avatar
    Guys go to below Ms uservoice site and vote for Quick settings for mobile(cellular) data on/off slot.
    because Quick settings r coming but mobile data toggle is missing.. it is missing in wp8.1 update..
    according to sdk leak..

    so please vote as much as possible Before wp8.1 launch.
    fast

    Mobile Data On/Off Option to Quick Settings! – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone
    02-19-2014 01:26 AM
  17. Geodude074's Avatar
    I use my computer to manage files on my phone. Seems to work for me.
    I use my phone to manage files on my phone. It works a lot better, trust me.
    02-19-2014 02:16 PM
  18. tgp's Avatar
    I use my phone to manage files on my phone. It works a lot better, trust me.
    How????
    02-19-2014 02:20 PM
  19. bilzkh's Avatar
    I think it's pretty obvious that the WP 8.1 file manager is meant for viewing and *maybe* moving around media, e.g. music, videos, documents, photos, etc. What else could most people be doing on their phones besides consuming and managing content?
    02-19-2014 06:13 PM
  20. ohgood's Avatar
    I think it's pretty obvious that the WP 8.1 file manager is meant for viewing and *maybe* moving around media, e.g. music, videos, documents, photos, etc. What else could most people be doing on their phones besides consuming and managing content?
    creating content, editing it, converting it, sharing it ?
    02-20-2014 07:09 AM
  21. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    creating content, editing it, converting it, sharing it ?
    Well, the creating, editing and sharing already happens. Not sure what you mean by converting or why you'd want to do that on a phone anyway.

    I guess people have high expectations of what a phone should do. Regardless if it's a good idea or not.
    02-20-2014 07:11 AM
  22. Rakesh Racky's Avatar
    02-21-2014 03:14 AM
  23. a5cent's Avatar
    I think they have an intern managing the user voice site. Obviously something (actually a couple of things) are coming in WP8.1. We've seen a few pictures and even a video of the file picker. We've heard repeatedly about some extra options for SD card support and deeper OneDrive integration. I think we can be rather confident about those things.
    02-21-2014 03:57 AM
  24. Rakesh Racky's Avatar
    File manager is store app in wp 8.1
    03-28-2014 10:10 AM
  25. narv's Avatar
    Like everything, nothing is for sure.. we've seen the file picker in the SDK leaks but no one has seen the file manager, and Nawzil says it's there, but not in the SDK

    https://twitter.com/Nawzil8/status/445305117605388289

    So there is hope still... 4 more days!!
    03-29-2014 03:12 PM
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