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  1. tjecco's Avatar
    Any chance there will be OTG support in WP8.1?
    raitis upens likes this.
    02-17-2014 06:15 AM
  2. palandri's Avatar
    Any chance there will be OTG support in WP8.1?
    Like in On The Go USB support?
    02-17-2014 07:02 AM
  3. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Like in On The Go USB support?
    I think that's what they mean. I don't see the point. I had it on my N8. I used it once out of curiosity. Some people have other ideas of use though. Like hooking up a USB hard drive to their phone and using it as a media player, which some did with the N8. Not sure that WP would do the same thing though since it doesn't have a HDMI output.
    palandri likes this.
    02-17-2014 07:12 AM
  4. vinrulez's Avatar
    I think that's what they mean. I don't see the point. I had it on my N8. I used it once out of curiosity. Some people have other ideas of use though. Like hooking up a USB hard drive to their phone and using it as a media player, which some did with the N8. Not sure that WP would do the same thing though since it doesn't have a HDMI output.
    Hey usb on the go feature is embedded in the snapdragon s4 chip,just needed a os link between the chip,like they bring the fm radio in the gdr2 update, Please vote for this feature in Windows Phone suggestion Box here, Need USB ON-THE-GO (OTG) in Windows Phone – Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone

    Pls refer the following figure for clarification http://i.imgur.com/ckHPtAa.jpg
    palandri likes this.
    02-17-2014 07:39 AM
  5. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Sorry but I'm not voting for that feature. I don't see the need for it.
    02-17-2014 08:11 AM
  6. tjecco's Avatar
    Here is a nice example of OTG Support on Android

    Not all Lumia's have MicroSD card slots but if windows phone supports OTG

    OTG USB Drives | Strontium
    02-17-2014 08:25 AM
  7. tjecco's Avatar
    Hey usb on the go feature is embedded in the snapdragon s4 chip,just needed a os link between the chip,like they bring the fm radio in the gdr2 update, Please vote for this feature in Windows Phone suggestion Box here, Need USB ON-THE-GO (OTG) in Windows Phone €“ Feature Suggestions for Windows Phone

    Pls refer the following figure for clarification http://i.imgur.com/ckHPtAa.jpg
    Thanks i Voted for that already :)
    02-17-2014 08:26 AM
  8. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    Here is a nice example of OTG Support on Android

    Not all Lumia's have MicroSD card slots but if windows phone supports OTG

    OTG USB Drives | Strontium
    I know how it works. Still don't see a need.
    02-17-2014 08:35 AM
  9. palandri's Avatar
    My wife and I both had N8's for a couple of years. We never took the USB to go cable out of the box, but I can see people wanting it as an option to play with.

    It's kind of like the HDMI out on the N8. I used it once. My wife never used it. I played with the DLNA a couple of time, but my wife uploads all of our pictures to Flickr.
    02-17-2014 08:35 AM
  10. palandri's Avatar
    I know how it works. Still don't see a need.
    I don't have a need for it either. I think it's more about having something else to use/try out/play with.
    02-17-2014 08:39 AM
  11. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    I don't have a need for it either. I think it's more about having something else to use/try out/play with.
    It's not a play with thing. I know why people want it because they want the expanded memory requirements that they're not getting with a L920 etc that doesn't have an SD card. People feel they should have every storage option available to them. Main reason being is that they want to be able to access every file they ever owned and get files on to their phones in other ways besides using a computer or cloud or bluetooth. We'll soon have direct WiFi but that doesn't seem to be on people's minds, they still want the old way to do things.

    It's really this issue of advance technology being used in areas where the infrastructure doesn't support it. So there's always a backward thing that people seem to always want. No SD Card, must have UOTG. Must have file manager. Must be able to transfer large files over bluetooth. Must be able to support any video/audio formats. Etc... this is the reality of technology today. :/
    sahib lopez likes this.
    02-17-2014 08:49 AM
  12. foxbat121's Avatar
    USB OTG is not just about add flash drives. Some ppl like to add external USB keyboard and mouse. Some like to add a game pad etc. Without USB OTG, it is not possible. If I'm not mistaken, there will be HID support in WP8.1. So add USB OTG support for peripheral devices shouldn't be that hard. However, flash drive will be an separate issue as the usage of the SD card today is still quite limited. Without a File Manager (another hot topic), it will be very hard to see much usage of USB flash drive.

    In fact, stock Android OS doesn't have USB OTG flash drive access either (specifically, it allows you to plug in but will not mount the drive automatically). It leaves OEMs and 3rd party apps to bridge that gap.
    02-17-2014 09:41 AM
  13. Nik Rolls's Avatar
    USB OTG requires a Micro-AB socket, so even if it is in WP 8.1 you will never see it on any current devices because they only have Micro-B. USB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    02-17-2014 08:01 PM
  14. foxbat121's Avatar
    USB OTG requires a Micro-AB socket, so even if it is in WP 8.1 you will never see it on any current devices because they only have Micro-B. USB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    No, you don't. All you need is a OTG cable or adapter. Android phones have this for years. Nothing new.

    And Micro-AB socket is a big mistake. Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet uses this and cause a lot of confusions about which way the microUSB plugs in and cause bend pins and ultimately failed tablet for many. On top of that, you still need a OTG cable which by all means only comes with a standard micro-B USB plug, probably because there is no device other than Dell Venue 8 Pro comes with Micro-AB port.
    xandros9 likes this.
    02-17-2014 08:14 PM
  15. Nik Rolls's Avatar
    Sorry, that's incorrect.

    To be USB-certified with OTG, you must have a Micro-AB socket. USB-IF is very specific about their certification criteria. This is also the case for an adaptor cable: for an OTG cable to be USB-certified you must use a Micro-A plug according to the MicroUSB1.01 standard.

    The fact that there are phones and cables around that don't respect this is not a reason to not use the standards, and any devices from high profile companies like Nokia that are released will use a proper Micro-AB socket (like they did for the N8).
    02-17-2014 08:46 PM
  16. foxbat121's Avatar
    Good luck with that. I mean it is extremely hard to find any cable using Micro A. All Android phone released today from Samsung to Google Nexus only come with MicroB port and still support OTG (certified or not). All USB OTG Cable on the market are Micro B. It is a de facto market standard. And to claim that without Micro-AB port you won't see USB otg support is certainly not correct. All you need is OS software support. The chipset already support it. And there is plenty of cable, certified or not, out there that supports OTG on micro B port.

    I suspect the reason why no one ever bothered with Micro-A is due to the fact that it is very easy to plug in the plug the wrong way and damage the connector due to the rectangular shape of the port. With micro B, you can't physically fit the plug any other way.
    02-17-2014 09:12 PM
  17. Nik Rolls's Avatar
    Regardless, I doubt you will ever see a Windows Phone with OTG that doesn't have a Micro-AB. Samsung and Google seem to think they can do whatever they want, but Nokia and Microsoft like to do things the right way.
    rcazador likes this.
    02-17-2014 09:23 PM
  18. foxbat121's Avatar
    I think Dell learnt a hard lesson by doing thing the right way. Too many returns/repairs due to damaged port. USB OTG is going to happen, without the stupid micro-A port.
    02-18-2014 06:43 AM
  19. Ma Rio's Avatar
    If you use your phone just for facebook that doesn't mean everybody does and you dont need anything else.
    More features - always better. I had an N8 and I know how cool OTG can be. I would really love support for it in the newer WP8.x devices.

    But yes, current phones would never have it even if MS pushed out a feature that enabled USB OTG (because of the AB socket, as mentioned above).
    ronty likes this.
    02-18-2014 08:53 AM
  20. SiriuS_r3d's Avatar
    I saw this on Twitter. Not sure if its true.

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    03-27-2014 01:43 AM
  21. tjecco's Avatar
    Ok so i tested a OTG Flash Drive on my Lumia 920..... Updated with Windows Phone 8.1

    it doesn't work
    04-15-2014 09:19 AM
  22. Jordan Mills's Avatar
    I saw this on Twitter. Not sure if its true.

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    Looks like he lied.
    04-19-2014 04:29 PM
  23. acewing905's Avatar
    I know how it works. Still don't see a need.
    So, because you don't have a need for a feature, other people shouldn't get to use it either? I will never understand what on Earth is wrong with people like you.
    >BUH BUH BUH THERE IS NO NEEEEED!!!1one!
    People making stupid excuses like this for everything is why WP is still lacking features that were in smartphones years ago.
    04-19-2014 10:13 PM
  24. gernerttl's Avatar
    Sorry but I'm not voting for that feature. I don't see the need for it.
    I agree. It's a neat feature, and I used it on my Galaxy Note 10.1 a couple times; and though it worked well, I just couldn't see a real reason to have this capability (other than to say, "See what I can do!"). Especially with the capability to upload to cloud services like OneDrive, Drop Box, etc. It's a niche capability that only is useful if you are transferring gigabytes of data at a time. If I need to upload or download that much data, then I just plug in to my PC using USB and download/upload the files needed. If I need to give somebody a file like a Word document or such, then I can just email it. Otherwise, save it to my OneDrive and access it via my PC as needed.

    I'm not going to vote for it either. Nor am I going to vote against it. If MSFT ultimately adds USB OTG capability to WP8.1 then cool. Otherwise... meh...
    Last edited by Timothy Gernert; 04-20-2014 at 01:38 AM.
    04-20-2014 01:26 AM
  25. ronty's Avatar
    I agree. It's a neat feature, and I used it on my Galaxy Note 10.1 a couple times; and though it worked well, I just couldn't see a real reason to have this capability (other than to say, "See what I can do!"). Especially with the capability to upload to cloud services like OneDrive, Drop Box, etc. It's a niche capability that only is useful if you are transferring gigabytes of data at a time. If I need to upload or download that much data, then I just plug in to my PC using USB and download/upload the files needed. If I need to give somebody a file like a Word document or such, then I can just email it. Otherwise, save it to my OneDrive and access it via my PC as needed.

    I'm not going to vote for it either. Nor am I going to vote against it. If MSFT ultimately adds USB OTG capability to WP8.1 then cool. Otherwise... meh...
    While I don't mean to say that you are wrong, I just want to tell that not everyone has the luxury of using cloud storage properly. It requires a fast internet connection which is simply not available in many places, so, cloud storage is not an option. Of course you can connect your phone to your PC, but where's the convenience? One thing which I do like about you is that you are not some of the people present here who feel that since they don't need a specific feature, so no one else should too.
    gernerttl likes this.
    04-20-2014 12:04 PM
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