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  1. Jaskys's Avatar
    Yes, please

    Anything is better than reskinned tiles which is off Windows 8 design
    linking1990 likes this.
    03-02-2014 10:30 AM
  2. taymur's Avatar
    Btw, I think the post on wpcentral was trying to say something in specific when they said the tiles will be TRANSPARENT, not a skin, what does that mean? It means that the picture will stay still while you scroll the tiles up and down. That's what I understood. I might be wrong.
    03-02-2014 10:34 AM
  3. Michael300's Avatar
    Have you used Windows 8?
    On Lumia 920, yes.
    03-02-2014 10:34 AM
  4. Jaskys's Avatar
    On Lumia 920, yes.
    Wait... What?
    03-02-2014 10:35 AM
  5. xrs22's Avatar
    I'm still hoping for solid background color choices kind of like the color themes tiles to have some contrast but more colors hopefully.
    linking1990 likes this.
    03-02-2014 10:45 AM
  6. Michael300's Avatar
    Windows phone 8, not Windows 8 on PC
    xandros9 likes this.
    03-02-2014 10:47 AM
  7. linking1990's Avatar
    Btw, I think the post on wpcentral was trying to say something in specific when they said the tiles will be TRANSPARENT, not a skin, what does that mean? It means that the picture will stay still while you scroll the tiles up and down. That's what I understood. I might be wrong.
    From what I understood, they meant that even when the tiles are flipping, the skinned-tile would still have the background, even during the flipping action, also, what you said.
    taymur likes this.
    03-02-2014 10:59 AM
  8. linking1990's Avatar
    Windows phone 8, not Windows 8 on PC
    Watch this please:
    03-02-2014 11:07 AM
  9. pranayhotkar's Avatar
    It was a sad day when I found out that this is what Microsoft is planning for WP 8.1. I keep asking myself why and never get an answer.

    Why I believe that skinned tiles isn't the way to go:
    • It would clutter the home screen.
    • Flipping skinned-tiles will make the background image look like a chess table with pieces on it!
    • How would they manage having a very tall wallpaper to cover up a long start screen? God please not by repeating the background!
    • It's just plain ugly and ruins the simplicity of WP.


    Why I believe that background image is the answer (with tiles grouping + Semantic Zoom):
    • It's a step closer of unifying the experience between WP and Windows 8.
    • Users can choose from a pre-set of simplistic backgrounds (Just like Windows 8), which keeps the OS simple too.
    • Grouping tiles is a must, especially for people who have more than 50 pinned tiles on their start screen.
    • Semantic Zoom can be used to quickly jump between tiles on your start screen (it's the answer for Androids pinch out that brings all the different home-screens in a quick jump, small view list).
    • Grouping tiles creates gaps between them, so the background can show (this argument is for people that always say there is no point of having a background.)


    I have made some mock-ups (with interactive tiles, which is not my subject today). Please check them out and let me know what you think:

    Attachment 58479

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    (You can visit my other post named: Windows Phone 9 Concept-linking1990)

    If you agree with me, please give me your vote on the feature suggestion page for Windows Phone. HERE
    your concept is awesome and we need something like this.just gave 3 votes for your concept
    linking1990 likes this.
    03-02-2014 11:24 AM
  10. Michael300's Avatar
    Thanks.
    03-02-2014 11:25 AM
  11. dcuk7's Avatar
    Whilst the background options don't really bother me which way they go, the thing I'd pick on with your concept is the clutter on the tiles. Too many tiles have controls on that that at best save you one tap (like the whatsapp one). The music tile is a good idea, show controls if its a double-wide tile and music is playing (and the Facebook one is a good idea) but the rest just make everything too cluttered and ruin the concept of Windows Phone which was information at a glance and simplicity.
    eric12341 likes this.
    03-02-2014 12:01 PM
  12. linking1990's Avatar
    Whilst the background options don't really bother me which way they go, the thing I'd pick on with your concept is the clutter on the tiles. Too many tiles have controls on that that at best save you one tap (like the whatsapp one). The music tile is a good idea, show controls if its a double-wide tile and music is playing (and the Facebook one is a good idea) but the rest just make everything too cluttered and ruin the concept of Windows Phone which was information at a glance and simplicity.
    I made it clear at the top of mythread that I wasn't discussing what I call "interactive tiles" inhere, those images are taken from a concept that I made two weeks ago, in thereI discussed my ideas and takes on what I see in WP.
    This thread is to talk about Startscreen backgrounds, grouping of tiles and semantic zoom.
    03-02-2014 01:08 PM
  13. eric12341's Avatar
    Honestly I think it's far too early to discuss how this is going to work out. I think the skinned tiles will workout for the better, I remember when we were first complaining about the resizable tiles and the loss of the gutter on the side. We learned to accept that change and the same will be for the skinned tiles.
    snowmutt and meddyrainzo like this.
    03-02-2014 01:21 PM
  14. rhamblet's Avatar
    I want the ability to do stuff like in OPs post, not the transparent tiles.

    I like solid colors, so a grey background with like orange tiles would be sweet. Or navy blue and yellow or something like that.
    linking1990 likes this.
    03-02-2014 03:01 PM
  15. jwinch2's Avatar
    03-02-2014 03:51 PM
  16. DennisvdG's Avatar
    Why "instead of"??

    Why not both??
    03-02-2014 03:53 PM
  17. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    I like how Windows 8.1 does it on computers, and I don't like how WP8.1 does it on WPs. If there is only the option for the tiles, and not the actual background like W8.1, then I'll just do the regular colors with no so-called "background". I guess we'll find out more at //build.
    linking1990 likes this.
    03-02-2014 04:10 PM
  18. unstoppablekem's Avatar
    Why "instead of"??

    Why not both??
    This!
    03-02-2014 04:11 PM
  19. Fade_z's Avatar
    It's not even out and People are already jumping to conclusions
    xandros9 likes this.
    03-02-2014 04:20 PM
  20. Squachy's Avatar
    I like how Windows 8.1 does it on computers, and I don't like how WP8.1 does it on WPs. If there is only the option for the tiles, and not the actual background like W8.1, then I'll just do the regular colors with no so-called "background". I guess we'll find out more at //build.
    It works on Win8 because of the amount of gigantic void space between categorized tiles and bordering the screen. You can actually see stuff behind them. On WP the tiles take up the entire screen real estate unless you leave big square voids that make the start screen look incomplete. Unless you want to go back to the WP7 days where there was a large empty blank gutter on the right side of the screen.....

    Im not saying either is the best way (i'd prefer the background to be changed too and not just skinned tiles) but the execution would be far less desirable unless MS allows the grouping of tiles with a header and opens up void space that way (like in win8 desktop) or some other way to actually be able to see the background.

    I also I remember way back when people were brainstorming Metro/Modern UI customization ideas was that of transparent tiles. The skinned tiles seem to do the same thing.
    03-02-2014 04:54 PM
  21. poiman's Avatar
    It works on Win8 because of the amount of gigantic void space between categorized tiles and bordering the screen. You can actually see stuff behind them. On WP the tiles take up the entire screen real estate unless you leave big square voids that make the start screen look incomplete. Unless you want to go back to the WP7 days where there was a large empty blank gutter on the right side of the screen.....

    Im not saying either is the best way (i'd prefer the background to be changed too and not just skinned tiles) but the execution would be far less desirable unless MS allows the grouping of tiles with a header and opens up void space that way (like in win8 desktop) or some other way to actually be able to see the background.

    I also I remember way back when people were brainstorming Metro/Modern UI customization ideas was that of transparent tiles. The skinned tiles seem to do the same thing.
    So, what's your point against just changing the colours of the background? There is absolutely no reason for Microsoft not to give us that option!
    Iki Taba and linking1990 like this.
    03-02-2014 07:42 PM
  22. xkinn's Avatar
    that windows phone 9 concept design is too ugly and only one-sided
    03-03-2014 12:56 AM
  23. linking1990's Avatar
    It's not even out and People are already jumping to conclusions
    That's the reason, cause it's not even out. We want it to be perfect when it's out, we don't want to wait another year for a newer update.

    They need to get things right this time around!
    03-03-2014 02:26 AM
  24. linking1990's Avatar
    This!
    Microsoft has no good history in giving more options when it comes to Windows Phone. I seriously hope they give us both!
    03-03-2014 02:27 AM
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    03-03-2014 02:28 AM
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