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  1. SSgt Bruskowiz's Avatar
    I just want my Start Screen on Windows Phone 8.1, to be similar to my Start Screen on Windows 8.1
    No you don't
    It wil never fit on a tiny screen ;-)
    03-05-2014 08:58 PM
  2. Woknox's Avatar
    although its not 100% in line with Windows 8.1, I would like to have the skinned tiles,... it just looks great! and it still has a Windows 8 look and feel
    F3rzz likes this.
    03-06-2014 02:53 AM
  3. Darkgift's Avatar
    I think having both options would be cool.
    F3rzz and Games Goblin like this.
    03-06-2014 10:08 AM
  4. svenhassel's Avatar
    Exactly my point, as someone said earlier, we don't need any background behind the tiles, for me personally I'd rather having to choose from a pre-set of abstract backgrounds, just like the ones found in Windows 8, that also have the parallex effect while scrolling (tail of the dragon I am looking at you!)
    Start @ 1:54
    I like this solution a lot, specially for 5/6 inch screens, but the option of having transparent tiles that allow to see the wallpaper is also welcomed. We need more options!!
    03-06-2014 01:01 PM
  5. Bruno Arphenia1's Avatar
    I really give up , I'll just sit and wait for April 2 to see the end result , I just think we need more customization and still believe that skin to the tiles not satisfies , Microsoft missed a great opportunity to leave the windows phone more appealing to all consumers , I really love the windows phone as it is, but we need more options these colors are the same since its release , I 'm already tired of looking at them, and I'm sure I'm not alone q this opinion. Not convince myself to do something like windows 8.1 would not be the best way to tell everyone that systems are of the same father , and leave without a consistent design visual pollution , would still feeling by bringing the two visually. Remembering to keep the option of removing the subject to leave the only black or white for the more conservative , even as an option to save more battery . And all would be happy if you want more options and who just want to stay where they are . Sorry for my bad english
    03-06-2014 01:41 PM
  6. poiman's Avatar
    I really give up , I'll just sit and wait for April 2 to see the end result , I just think we need more customization and still believe that skin to the tiles not satisfies , Microsoft missed a great opportunity to leave the windows phone more appealing to all consumers , I really love the windows phone as it is, but we need more options these colors are the same since its release , I 'm already tired of looking at them, and I'm sure I'm not alone q this opinion. Not convince myself to do something like windows 8.1 would not be the best way to tell everyone that systems are of the same father , and leave without a consistent design visual pollution , would still feeling by bringing the two visually. Remembering to keep the option of removing the subject to leave the only black or white for the more conservative , even as an option to save more battery . And all would be happy if you want more options and who just want to stay where they are . Sorry for my bad english
    Indeed it seems like we will have to forget about backgrounds on WP8.1... I guess they are just not coming. But we should keep fighting in WP user voice so that Microsoft will understand that we really really really want this in a future version! We will have to express ourselves louder because, despite all our efforts this time, it seems like we have lost this battle. But not the war!
    03-06-2014 07:30 PM
  7. z33dev33l's Avatar
    Eh... Skin to tiles is better. You see more of the picture and it's new
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    03-06-2014 07:38 PM
  8. poiman's Avatar
    Eh... Skin to tiles is better. You see more of the picture and it's new
    We aren't really asking for pictures, we are asking for colours.
    03-06-2014 07:46 PM
  9. Lokiwp's Avatar
    Yes we want this...................♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
    03-06-2014 11:07 PM
  10. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    We aren't really asking for pictures, we are asking for colours.
    That's what you're asking for not "we". I want background images so do many others (at least that's what I and many others voted for) so for a lot of people, the skinned tile idea is the way forward just like to you (and many others), the colors behind the tiles is the way to go
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    03-07-2014 07:02 PM
  11. poiman's Avatar
    That's what you're asking for not "we". I want background images so do many others (at least that's what I and many others voted for) so for a lot of people, the skinned tile idea is the way forward just like to you (and many others), the colors behind the tiles is the way to go
    Yes, we, because I'm not the only one. It doesn't mean you are included. Background photos don't make sense in this flat OS. It goes against its minimalist design language. Colours and gradients do.

    Anyway, you are happy because you are getting what you wanted. Those of us who asked for something even more simple to implement aren't getting what we asked for. If you think that's fair...
    03-08-2014 08:50 AM
  12. ortizang's Avatar
    We aren't really asking for pictures, we are asking for colours.
    yup, that would be cool.
    03-08-2014 09:12 AM
  13. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    Yes, we, because I'm not the only one. It doesn't mean you are included. Background photos don't make sense in this flat OS. It goes against its minimalist design language. Colours and gradients do.

    Anyway, you are happy because you are getting what you wanted. Those of us who asked for something even more simple to implement aren't getting what we asked for. If you think that's fair...
    LOL! So your logic is to now tell MS to get rid of this(what me and many others want) for what you (and others want) so you'll be happy and that's what's fair?!!.

    Hahaha! What a good laugh. Talk about pot calling kettle black. Haha

    EDIT: Like I've said over and over, there are other things to worry about in WP. I wanted this feature, I voted, MS seems to be doing what I want so I've moved on. Not my fault. You can't please everyone. There's no way I'm gonna support what you want if it conflicts with what I want. That's not "unfair" it's just logical. If you think that's unfair or selfish, then why don't YOU support what I want then? Worry about other things like the app gap. At least we know MS is doing something about the backgrounds. If they do it they leaked way I'll be a happy man, if they do it your way, it's still an improvement to what was implemented before so I'm still gonna be partially happy. Apps and the Nokia-MS deal is my "new worry"
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    03-08-2014 09:38 AM
  14. linking1990's Avatar
    3600 mark.
    03-09-2014 04:09 AM
  15. poiman's Avatar
    LOL! So your logic is to now tell MS to get rid of this(what me and many others want) for what you (and others want) so you'll be happy and that's what's fair?!!.

    Hahaha! What a good laugh. Talk about pot calling kettle black. Haha

    EDIT: Like I've said over and over, there are other things to worry about in WP. I wanted this feature, I voted, MS seems to be doing what I want so I've moved on. Not my fault. You can't please everyone. There's no way I'm gonna support what you want if it conflicts with what I want. That's not "unfair" it's just logical. If you think that's unfair or selfish, then why don't YOU support what I want then? Worry about other things like the app gap. At least we know MS is doing something about the backgrounds. If they do it they leaked way I'll be a happy man, if they do it your way, it's still an improvement to what was implemented before so I'm still gonna be partially happy. Apps and the Nokia-MS deal is my "new worry"
    WTF? I said that what you want doesn't make any sense in the metro design language. And it doesn't. So I will not use it but where the hell did you see me saying that I would like them to remove it so that they can add what I want? I say, let this feature stay for those who don't give a sh*t about design consistency and just want their iron man photos on their start screen, despite making the core of the OS (the live tiles) losing its identity and functionality (easy to spot at a glance). No problem, let this feature stay, but IN ADDITION, give those who like and respect the metro design language the features they want! It's that simple.

    See? It's all about choice. Not removing features to add new ones. This choice I'm talking about... You have it, I don't. That's my point.
    03-09-2014 07:40 AM
  16. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    WTF? I said that what you want doesn't make any sense in the metro design language. And it doesn't. So I will not use it but where the hell did you see me saying that I would like them to remove it so that they can add what I want? I say, let this feature stay for those who don't give a sh*t about design consistency and just want their iron man photos on their start screen, despite making the core of the OS (the live tiles) losing its identity and functionality (easy to spot at a glance). No problem, let this feature stay, but IN ADDITION, give those who like and respect the metro design language the features they want! It's that simple.

    See? It's all about choice. Not removing features to add new ones. This choice I'm talking about... You have it, I don't. That's my point.
    One question. Did you vote for this? If yes, then you do realize the post says "We want this NOT skinned tiles". It boldly states that. And I said in my early post I would have supported this if it said this along with skinned tiles but it doesn't. This vote doesn't give the choice. So if you voted for this , you didn't support the "choice" you're talking about. There :)
    03-09-2014 08:08 AM
  17. poiman's Avatar
    I'm just talking about what I want here because it makes no sense to create another thread on this. It doesn't mean that I agree 100% with this proposal.

    Now that Microsoft invested time adding this to the OS, of course I'll not say. "Screw it! Delete all your work and lets do something else!" I say "Lets keep it for those who don't give a damn about design consistency but please understand that you have to do better because this work isn't, by any means, representative of the design language we have been trying to create!"

    But if I was in charge and no work had been done in this regard, I would say to the team:

    - "Guys, lets start something new, lets add some colours to the start screen background or the ability to chose from some predefined gradients to keep consistency between WP8.1 and W8.1"

    - "Sure boss! Should we also work on live tile skins?"

    - "Don't even think about that! Haven't you been working with us for the last 4 years, John? You should know better what we are trying to do here!"
    03-09-2014 08:38 AM
  18. Kasey Pierce's Avatar
    Can't we all just get along?
    SagarSadbhaiya and F3rzz like this.
    03-09-2014 02:32 PM
  19. andrei_1998's Avatar
    3 votes.
    03-11-2014 02:50 AM
  20. vikrant6's Avatar
    This is so endless debate...
    03-11-2014 12:33 PM
  21. poiman's Avatar
    This is so endless debate...
    Microsoft has the ability to put an end to it.
    03-11-2014 01:03 PM
  22. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    To poiman and the OP, would this be a compromise to you guys?
    https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/...27387451_o.jpg

    piture from WPLovers
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    03-11-2014 05:45 PM
  23. MameTozhio's Avatar
    I'd like Windows 8.1-like backgrounds. But not semantic zoom or tile grouping. Maybe interactive tiles if they are done well.
    03-11-2014 06:16 PM
  24. poiman's Avatar
    To poiman and the OP, would this be a compromise to you guys?
    https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/...27387451_o.jpg

    piture from WPLovers
    It's a nice mockup:

    1) Doesn't kill the main purpose of Live Tiles, which is the ability to spot them at a glance;

    2) Does't kill the identity of the Live Tiles, meaning, they keep their colour, just like the way they were designed to be.

    But it still has a few drawbacks, such as:

    1) Background photos with many details make the hole OS less clean and make you lose that flat feeling;

    2) Translucency isn't a part of the metro language.

    In my opinion the best solution is the ability to change the colour of the background or to chose from a couple of built in gradient photos.

    Anyway, if I had to chose between this mockup and the skinned tiles Microsoft is giving us, I would go for the mockup any day!
    03-11-2014 09:19 PM
  25. meddyrainzo's Avatar
    It's a nice mockup:

    1) Doesn't kill the main purpose of Live Tiles, which is the ability to spot them at a glance;

    2) Does't kill the identity of the Live Tiles, meaning, they keep their colour, just like the way they were designed to be.

    But it still has a few drawbacks, such as:

    1) Background photos with many details make the hole OS less clean and make you lose that flat feeling;

    2) Translucency isn't a part of the metro language.

    In my opinion the best solution is the ability to change the colour of the background or to chose from a couple of built in gradient photos.

    Anyway, if I had to chose between this mockup and the skinned tiles Microsoft is giving us, I would go for the mockup any day!
    I think this gives a middle ground...I still expect the skinned tiles to be MS's way of implementing it tbh but this would satisfy(to a large extent) those who don't want skinned tiles and those who want to see the picture they used...Well, we'll know in 3 weeks
    03-12-2014 06:54 AM
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