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  1. Kage Maru's Avatar
    I think the hypocrisy is that both Google and MS's ToC say pretty much the same thing (not specific to Cortana either), but people either overlook that MS's say it, or simply don't know it and jump on Google.

    At the end of the day, both companies are using your data for targeted advertising.
    That's a very broad statement without knowing why some are bothered by the gathering of data.
    03-04-2014 04:13 PM
  2. RustyU's Avatar
    That's why I started it with "I think"
    03-04-2014 04:18 PM
  3. Kage Maru's Avatar
    Touch
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    03-04-2014 04:26 PM
  4. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    Awesome little teaser there. I can't wait to try it.



    Thanks for the reply and I see where you're coming from. Only thing I don't agree with is what you consider hypocrisy. If I can opt out of Cortana gathering all or certain key points of data about me, that is much more preferred than any company gathering all the data they can about me without my knowledge, cooperation, and especially options to decide what is tracked. I think the level of control over the owner's data/history is what brings people at ease with this service. For example, I wouldn't mind using Cortana to the fullest extent, but if I find that it's becoming too intrusive, I can opt out of the parts I'm not comfortable with or the entire thing. Does Google offer this level of control over the user's data? Honest question because if not, that freedom could be the dividing factor between what is acceptable and what is not for some people.

    To me the anonymous aspect means very little.

    First let me say thanks for talking with me. I love a good debate. You never really know what you can learn from people. But to your question, Google does not currently allow you to opt out of certain sections. In terms of Google Now, you can opt out of all or nothing. However, you can download a copy of everything they have on you and delete it all forever if you so please. I really like MS's planned notebook feature because i feel that it's forward thinking and that it gives privacy conscious users a choice whereas with Google it's all or nothing.
    03-04-2014 04:42 PM
  5. Ivin Laney's Avatar
    I think the hypocrisy is that both Google and MS's ToC say pretty much the same thing (not specific to Cortana either), but people either overlook that MS's say it, or simply don't know it and jump on Google.

    At the end of the day, both companies are using your data for targeted advertising.
    Finally someone understands me!!! ;)
    03-04-2014 04:43 PM
  6. Kage Maru's Avatar
    First let me say thanks for talking with me. I love a good debate. You never really know what you can learn from people. But to your question, Google does not currently allow you to opt out of certain sections. In terms of Google Now, you can opt out of all or nothing. However, you can download a copy of everything they have on you and delete it all forever if you so please. I really like MS's planned notebook feature because i feel that it's forward thinking and that it gives privacy conscious users a choice whereas with Google it's all or nothing.
    Hey no thanks necessary, I too like a good conversation, debate or otherwise. Apologies if I seemed a bit dismissive at first, there have been a few people on these forums recently that seem less than genuine with their intentions here.
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    03-04-2014 05:00 PM
  7. a5cent's Avatar
    I think the hypocrisy is that both Google and MS's ToC say pretty much the same thing (not specific to Cortana either).
    I have read both. I disagree. The differences in wording are not large, but what those small differences imply is significant.
    03-04-2014 05:26 PM
  8. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    I have read both. I disagree. The differences in wording are not large, but what those small differences imply is significant.
    That sums up my position that I was trying to make clear earlier. The differences may not seem large, but if you know how to read things carefully and know what words actually mean, in a legal sense, it becomes very apparent that there are actually profound differences.

    That was my intent for at least the portions I wrote.
    03-04-2014 07:35 PM
  9. bayanii's Avatar
    Dude, off topic, but I was reading comments on other websites and man people really hate on MS. Kind of crazy. Anyways, well, lost that thought. Lol.
    03-05-2014 01:31 AM
  10. anon(8150199)'s Avatar
    Everyday I'm shuffling
    03-05-2014 03:16 AM
  11. Dratwister's Avatar
    Dude, off topic, but I was reading comments on other websites and man people really hate on MS. Kind of crazy. Anyways, well, lost that thought. Lol.
    Hating Microsoft is kinda internet trend right now. People just like hating Microsoft without any proper reason. And if you decided to do the otherwise, they'd keep blaming you with their nonsense statements and then ignore you for later Microsoft hating comments again. Just look at all the hatred toward IE and you can understand.
    03-05-2014 03:28 AM
  12. taymur's Avatar
    People hate change, they hate to leave their comfort zone.... this is kinda normal.

    btw IE is amazing
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    03-05-2014 03:36 AM
  13. X0LARIUM's Avatar


    Go beserk people!
    03-05-2014 04:57 AM
  14. Ma Rio's Avatar
    I would really want a better cortana visualization. For instance like the bubble on this video.

    I don't think it would be that hard to make and it would look amazing. So futuristic!
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    03-05-2014 06:36 AM
  15. psudotechzealot's Avatar
    Ugh, I am always late to the party.
    03-05-2014 06:50 AM
  16. savagelizards's Avatar
    That's a very broad statement without knowing why some are bothered by the gathering of data.
    I was bothered enough by the gathering of data to move to WP in the first place. Microsoft IMO, is much more open about how this process works and how you can control your data. I fled Google because their terms basically stated that they got free use of ANYTHING they could learn from me as I used their services. Ironically even if all things were equal I would feel less threatened by Microsoft at this point. They have enormous business revenue streams that they do not want to jeopardize by taking advantage of their consumer relationships with business decision makers.

    With Google, taking advantage of consumer relationships is their entire business model. You are their product.
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    03-05-2014 07:41 AM
  17. vitor.rf's Avatar
    Hating Microsoft is kinda internet trend right now. People just like hating Microsoft without any proper reason. And if you decided to do the otherwise, they'd keep blaming you with their nonsense statements and then ignore you for later Microsoft hating comments again. Just look at all the hatred toward IE and you can understand.
    I agree with the hatred **** towards Microsoft, but IE really sucked a while ago. It's really better now, but I think kids nowadays think hating is cool and proof of one's awareness of life.
    03-05-2014 08:42 AM
  18. poiman's Avatar
    I would really want a better cortana visualization. For instance like the bubble on this video.

    I don't think it would be that hard to make and it would look amazing. So futuristic!
    Looks great but doesn't have much in common with the Metro language. It has kind of a 3D effect while Windows Phone UI is flat.
    taymur likes this.
    03-05-2014 09:01 AM
  19. vitor.rf's Avatar
    Looks great but doesn't have much in common with the Metro language. It has kind of a 3D effect while Windows Phone UI is flat.
    I agree. The cortana animation is flat and accent color limited. Creating amazing effects would drain the battery too much, which's quite the opposite of what they're trying to achieve. Plus, I wouldn't want to be staring at her while she does the work. I would mostly ask her when not even looking at the phone.
    03-05-2014 03:53 PM
  20. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    I agree with the hatred **** towards Microsoft, but IE really sucked a while ago. It's really better now, but I think kids nowadays think hating is cool and proof of one's awareness of life.
    Yes and it makes a lot of folks life a living hell having to deal with that type of attitude. :(
    03-05-2014 09:28 PM
  21. cuwe's Avatar
    Anyone notice that Cortana live tile was moving in the leak video ? It's rotating . At 0:30 .
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    03-07-2014 01:28 AM
  22. weedog1889's Avatar
    Would be cool if cortana had a wake up word so you wouldn't even need touch your phone to activate anything
    03-07-2014 02:48 AM
  23. Jonas_H's Avatar
    Would be cool if cortana had a wake up word so you wouldn't even need touch your phone to activate anything
    Yes, I thought that too! The problem is the microphone that would always have to be turned on. That would cause lots of battery drain.

    The Moto X, for example, also has a virtual assistant which you can start with your voice, but it has an extra processor built in that reduces the battery drain of the always-on microphone.
    03-07-2014 04:01 AM
  24. weedog1889's Avatar
    Yeah your right, could be a problem for lots of people, although im sure they could make it optional to be always on
    Jonas_H likes this.
    03-07-2014 04:26 AM
  25. X0LARIUM's Avatar
    Since we are on the topic, Cortana better be better than Google Now search. Honestly, SIRI is not even the competition. Even if it can be between SIri and Google Now, it will be prove to be a HUGE boost to WP sales...IMHO>
    Jonas_H likes this.
    03-07-2014 05:37 AM
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