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  1. Devmer11's Avatar
    Do you you think Microsoft will bring better versions of the office apps for windows phones like add more features better editing support and especially more OneNote support. I'd really like to see a version like on the newly released iPad or the one in windows Rt since we are supposed to be first class citizens wouldn't you think that would be the case? Let me know below
    03-28-2014 03:13 AM
  2. N_LaRUE's Avatar
    When I got my WP I was excited about the idea of having Office on my phone. I had it on my N8 as well. I have since then realised that I never use it on my phone. Though it's 'handy' to have.

    I guess I don't really fit your category of person. I will say this though. I do hope they bring better support for it on the phone with better editing options. I still don't expect a full blown Office experience though. It is a phone after all.

    As for being a 'first class citizen' this is MS, they don't make much sense. I guess we'll see soon enough.
    03-28-2014 03:23 AM
  3. Devmer11's Avatar
    I figured we would get a watered down version like on the iPad but I'll take anything Better then what we have now and the OneNote app is terrible. And yes very true we buy windows products all the selling points go to the competition lol like Xbox live Xbox music and now office
    03-28-2014 03:42 AM
  4. juanitoriv's Avatar
    I do hope for more and better editing options for our Office Suite. Would be frickin awesome!!
    03-28-2014 07:54 AM
  5. Squachy's Avatar
    MS just doesn't make any real sense nowadays. Sure its understandable to get into google and apple market share with office products, but releasing better versions than the windows product doesn't make any sense. With Ballmer at the helm it seems like his way was to make the Apple/google versions worse than the somewhat terrible windows version.(talking about phone here) With Satala, his way seems to be backwards...make a good ipod/google version and just ignore the windows version.....So I dunno...MS hasn't made a whole lot of sense lately.
    03-28-2014 08:03 AM
  6. badcat's Avatar
    MS just doesn't make any real sense nowadays. Sure its understandable to get into google and apple market share with office products, but releasing better versions than the windows product doesn't make any sense. With Ballmer at the helm it seems like his way was to make the Apple/google versions worse than the somewhat terrible windows version.(talking about phone here) With Satala, his way seems to be backwards...make a good ipod/google version and just ignore the windows version.....So I dunno...MS hasn't made a whole lot of sense lately.
    I seriously doubt this has much to do with Nadella. He's been at the helm, what, two whole months? No where near enough time to put any sort of policy change into effect in a company the size of MS. These sort of decisions were made prior to his appointment.
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    03-28-2014 08:11 AM
  7. TripsG's Avatar
    The idea that you would water down any version of one of your best selling and most reliable product lines for the competition is so shortsighted. The goal is to give the absolute best user experience possible on any platform so your product gets the most respect globally. This drives people TO your platform. It's not a coincidence that the top 3 apps in the Apple app store yesterday were the Office suite or products followed by OneNote in 7th and can you believe Skype in 13th! That's 5 MS apps in the top 13 on the Apple store! The products WORK and that's why people want it. The product is ingrained in our everyday life and that's why people want it. Now they can be on whatever platform they want and get the best user experience out there. This is a brilliant move and one that is several years too late. These kinds of business moves will only help the product, the company and its shareholders by putting more faith and money into the ecosystem.

    If you go to Bing News and have MS as one of your topics you follow you'll see that the naysayers have come out of the woodwork yet again to state that it's too little too late, that there are better alternatives, that it's not free, that there's no reason in this day and age to use a dinosaur program. But those opinions are starting to get shouted down by those who see the value in the product and, more importantly, are seeing how well the products and services are integrating in their day to day lives. And have you seen MS stock?

    I agree there are shortcomings with MS products ON MS products but they will continue to be refined as the company becomes more unified. This is actually an exciting time to be part of the MS ecosystem and I can't wait to see what's ahead.
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    03-28-2014 08:18 AM
  8. Oliverspin's Avatar
    I seriously doubt this has much to do with Nadella. He's been at the helm, what, two whole months? No where near enough time to put any sort of policy change into effect in a company the size of MS. These sort of decisions were made prior to his appointment.
    I agree. People need to be patient. It's easy to get frustrated with Microsoft or the WP wing, but they have many things to do and a limited number of top priorities to assign. The only thing we can do is provide feedback(not destructive criticism) and be patient.
    03-28-2014 11:52 AM
  9. juanitoriv's Avatar
    I agree. People need to be patient. It's easy to get frustrated with Microsoft or the WP wing, but they have many things to do and a limited number of top priorities to assign. The only thing we can do is provide feedback(not destructive criticism) and be patient.
    What I think it is so easy to get frustrated with, is that priorities are being set for other platforms first. Goes back to "Get your own house in order first" adage. I'm understanding the push to make services available, universal and to cement them as THE Standard in the mobile realms as the are in Enterprise, but I'll be upset if "they" get better stuff than we do.
    03-28-2014 12:11 PM
  10. mjrtoo's Avatar
    What I think it is so easy to get frustrated with, is that priorities are being set for other platforms first. Goes back to "Get your own house in order first" adage. I'm understanding the push to make services available, universal and to cement them as THE Standard in the mobile realms as the are in Enterprise, but I'll be upset if "they" get better stuff than we do.
    Really? I think Microsoft has done great things for Windows. Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, XBox One, OneDrive improvements, smart glass, kinnect 2, etc, etc.
    03-28-2014 12:14 PM
  11. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Really. I'd love to format a paragraph, fonts, columns on my 8X when a full Win8.1 machine isn't available.
    Kon Bick likes this.
    03-28-2014 12:25 PM
  12. mjrtoo's Avatar
    Editing docs on your phone isn't of the highest priority is it? Maybe for a few...
    psychotron likes this.
    03-29-2014 08:24 AM
  13. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Not generally but when the need arises, I'd like to be able to. I always have my phone on me. Same can't be said for my other devices.
    03-29-2014 01:40 PM
  14. osoalex's Avatar
    They should add a Ribbon UI on 1520, at least, or maybe in landscape 4"+ displays.
    03-29-2014 01:58 PM
  15. narv's Avatar
    So... not much to go off of, but:

    https://twitter.com/Nawzil8/status/449640190928515072

    At least we know there are improvements... though no idea if this is new features or just back-end "faster" stuff.
    juanitoriv likes this.
    03-29-2014 03:00 PM
  16. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Hoping to find out
    03-29-2014 04:18 PM
  17. smoledman's Avatar
    MS just doesn't make any real sense nowadays. Sure its understandable to get into google and apple market share with office products, but releasing better versions than the windows product doesn't make any sense. With Ballmer at the helm it seems like his way was to make the Apple/google versions worse than the somewhat terrible windows version.(talking about phone here) With Satala, his way seems to be backwards...make a good ipod/google version and just ignore the windows version.....So I dunno...MS hasn't made a whole lot of sense lately.
    There are 1.5 billion iOS/Android devices out there. How many Windows Phone+RT devices are there? Yeah it makes sense to divert engineering resources for the 1.5 billion.
    03-29-2014 04:40 PM
  18. smoledman's Avatar
    The idea that you would water down any version of one of your best selling and most reliable product lines for the competition is so shortsighted. The goal is to give the absolute best user experience possible on any platform so your product gets the most respect globally. This drives people TO your platform. It's not a coincidence that the top 3 apps in the Apple app store yesterday were the Office suite or products followed by OneNote in 7th and can you believe Skype in 13th! That's 5 MS apps in the top 13 on the Apple store! The products WORK and that's why people want it. The product is ingrained in our everyday life and that's why people want it. Now they can be on whatever platform they want and get the best user experience out there. This is a brilliant move and one that is several years too late. These kinds of business moves will only help the product, the company and its shareholders by putting more faith and money into the ecosystem.

    If you go to Bing News and have MS as one of your topics you follow you'll see that the naysayers have come out of the woodwork yet again to state that it's too little too late, that there are better alternatives, that it's not free, that there's no reason in this day and age to use a dinosaur program. But those opinions are starting to get shouted down by those who see the value in the product and, more importantly, are seeing how well the products and services are integrating in their day to day lives. And have you seen MS stock?

    I agree there are shortcomings with MS products ON MS products but they will continue to be refined as the company becomes more unified. This is actually an exciting time to be part of the MS ecosystem and I can't wait to see what's ahead.
    I use OneNote and it's fantastic. Whoever says MS = dinosaur products is living in vistabob land. For them it's always 2005 and Justin Long is the face of Apple.
    rcazador likes this.
    03-29-2014 04:41 PM
  19. Morpheus Phreak's Avatar
    MS just doesn't make any real sense nowadays. Sure its understandable to get into google and apple market share with office products, but releasing better versions than the windows product doesn't make any sense. With Ballmer at the helm it seems like his way was to make the Apple/google versions worse than the somewhat terrible windows version.(talking about phone here) With Satala, his way seems to be backwards...make a good ipod/google version and just ignore the windows version.....So I dunno...MS hasn't made a whole lot of sense lately.
    This version was in development long before Satya (not Satala...*sighs*) moved into the big office.

    BTW, do you know what really doesn't make sense? Holding into a finished product while waiting for another product to be finished, just so you can have it on your own platform first. Why throw money away by not having a finished product on the shelf, so to speak? It would be more of a waste having an artificial delay that is completely unnecessary from a business standpoint.

    I seriously doubt this has much to do with Nadella. He's been at the helm, what, two whole months? No where near enough time to put any sort of policy change into effect in a company the size of MS. These sort of decisions were made prior to his appointment.
    Indeed. Right now it's like the first several months while the POTUS settles in. Usually a lot of their time in the first few months is dedicated to getting things in line and a ton of what's happening in the public eye is the leftover business from the prior CEO.

    The only logic I could see that would allow for that would be if Microsoft were wanting to be petty, and Google already has that beat covered with their *raspberry* type behavior when it comes to WP apps.


    BTW just to put this out there. Microsoft is not ignoring Windows. They've had a version for Metro/Modern in development, but it wasn't ready for release at the same time as the version for iOS...and that would make sense since the Mac BU usually does things separately from the rest of the company on many fronts.
    03-29-2014 08:38 PM
  20. psychotron's Avatar
    Editing docs on your phone isn't of the highest priority is it? Maybe for a few...
    This is kinda how I think about it. I mean who's going to be doing much serious work on their phone? If you need mobility that bad get an ultrabook or an 8" tablet with keyboard case.
    03-29-2014 09:46 PM
  21. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Serious work, not so much.. But, there are times when I need to. And I have a 10" convertible, btw..
    03-29-2014 10:54 PM
  22. AngryNil's Avatar
    Consumers don't need to be patient with Microsoft. If Microsoft can't keep pace with the rest of the industry and can do no better than the complete embarrassment that is Word mobile, then consumers can and will opt for alternatives which are more popular and feature-rich.

    It isn't even about complicated editing, Word mobile is just completely unusable. The OneNote app is a better word processor than it. OneNote has its own issues though, such as the terrible navigation between sections and pages.
    Last edited by AngryNil; 03-29-2014 at 11:34 PM.
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    03-29-2014 11:19 PM
  23. juanitoriv's Avatar
    Consumers don't need to be patient with Microsoft. If Microsoft can't keep pace with the rest of the industry and can do no better than the complete embarrassment that is Word mobile, then consumers can and will opt for alternatives which are more popular and feature-rich.
    I really don't want to agree with you, but alas. ^^^Agreed^^^. Supply and demand is the most basic fundamental in business. Give the people what they want. I don't care about the popularity, or I wouldn't have had a WP for 2+ years, and WM6.5 before that. I just would like more functionality in there. I'm not saying a full suite, just a little more would be great!!
    03-29-2014 11:26 PM
  24. taymur's Avatar
    I only use office on my 920 to view my archive, and that's some what rare. Although I have a friend who needs an excel sheet to be with him on all times, keeps updating it based on customer requests, wish he had a WP he would really benefit from it, I guess.
    03-30-2014 01:22 AM
  25. Ezhik's Avatar
    Yeah, Windows Phone Office needs improvements ASAP. It's VERY bad. There's literally no excuse for it to be as bad as it is now, seriously. Especially with how good the iPad version is, it's shameful to not have even 10% as many editing options on a Lumia 1520.
    03-30-2014 05:34 AM
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