04-08-2014 02:27 PM
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  1. ntice_521's Avatar
    Pocket File Manager
    Kashan Osama likes this.
    04-04-2014 03:21 PM
  2. LillWicke's Avatar
    File manager remains to be seen though.

    Posted via the WPC App for Android!
    File Manager will com to us via apps.
    You have it today via Pocket File Manager.
    When they have implemented File Picker (or som other app may do (MS?)) it will be super.

    Futhermore you will be able to manage your files via the cloud.
    OneDriveApp will have a filemanager.

    So, as a matter of facts, you will actually have 2 File Managers in WP8.1

    04-04-2014 04:02 PM
  3. A895's Avatar
    File Manager will com to us via apps.
    You have it today via Pocket File Manager.
    When they have implemented File Picker (or som other app may do (MS?)) it will be super.

    Futhermore you will be able to manage your files via the cloud.
    OneDriveApp will have a filemanager.

    So, as a matter of facts, you will actually have 2 File Managers in WP8.1

    I will have to see it first.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    04-04-2014 04:11 PM
  4. Reebs Reebs's Avatar
    It's dumb that there isn't a file manager. Especially when you consider the new IE downloads feature.

    You our can download and save files to a "Downloads" folder but there's no way to access those files. What the hell is up with that?
    Please someone comment on this. I find this frustrating to say the least. Also, I really want to be able to make files available offline from OneDrive. Thoughts?
    04-04-2014 04:12 PM
  5. bionicgt's Avatar
    I am a developer and I have the 8.1 SDK with 8.1 emulators and I'm sorry to say that there is no file manager
    04-04-2014 04:34 PM
  6. emigrating's Avatar
    There are new APIs for file access, and apps can now read shared files which is all a file manager would be good for anyway. In other words, there will be an app solving you guys' problem soon after 8.1 apps are allowed in the store.
    04-04-2014 04:39 PM
  7. LillWicke's Avatar
    I am a developer and I have the 8.1 SDK with 8.1 emulators and I'm sorry to say that there is no file manager
    Of course you can not see, its an emulator you talking about, not WP8.1
    You can't see apps like "Pocket File Manager" nor you can't see the file manager in OneDrive app because it's not uppdated yet.

    04-04-2014 06:44 PM
  8. VoDucMinh0000's Avatar
    iPhone does have a file manager through third party apps.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app

    If u jailbreak your device, and jailbreak is illegal
    04-04-2014 09:54 PM
  9. Dustin Hodges's Avatar
    The right to own and use your files across the platform should be implemented, doesnt matter how. If i have docs in pdf I should be able to use them with email App directly ( dont sing the onedrive song, in corporate environment Cloud file Storage is widely banned)
    Quite honestly everyone is not really thinking things through about how WP works. What's needed isn't a file manager, but rather two things:
    File Picker [Coming Soon]
    API's to allow inter-app file transfer between different apps

    Currently, Windows Phone operates upon application associations: every file is stored within it's respective app's designated storage. The first of the two required things will allow applications to open files they are not associated with, for instance, in messaging clients, or as mentioned above, eMail clients. Furthermore, the second option on the list would allow the passing of a file from one app to another, for example, sending a PDF through skype. This method would allow for apps to continue to manage their own files while opening up inter-app operability.

    Lastly, a "Files" or "Downloads" app should be present that manages a designated "downloads" folder where un-associated files are stored (for example, an exe file downloaded from a business server, or a zip emailed from a coworker, could be stored in "Downloads" for retrieval via USB on a computer.)

    A full fledged file manager would in fact be more complicated, decrease security, and require major rewriting of how Windows Phones manages files. The above solution, however. is as simple as adding a few API's. The suggested method would allow one to have more control over their files, while avoiding the clutter and security issues of a full-fledged File Manager.
    Reebs Reebs and csd_images like this.
    04-04-2014 10:16 PM
  10. A895's Avatar
    If u jailbreak your device, and jailbreak is illegal
    No and no.

    Sent from my XT1060 using Mobile Nations mobile app
    04-04-2014 10:17 PM
  11. iyae's Avatar
    We need to ba able to

    1) copy files to the phone from a PC via USB
    2) load those files via filepicker into apps.

    Then im happy

    So far we can only do part 1
    A895 likes this.
    04-04-2014 10:17 PM
  12. ronty's Avatar
    Quite honestly everyone is not really thinking things through about how WP works. What's needed isn't a file manager, but rather two things:
    File Picker [Coming Soon]
    API's to allow inter-app file transfer between different apps

    Currently, Windows Phone operates upon application associations: every file is stored within it's respective app's designated storage. The first of the two required things will allow applications to open files they are not associated with, for instance, in messaging clients, or as mentioned above, eMail clients. Furthermore, the second option on the list would allow the passing of a file from one app to another, for example, sending a PDF through skype. This method would allow for apps to continue to manage their own files while opening up inter-app operability.

    Lastly, a "Files" or "Downloads" app should be present that manages a designated "downloads" folder where un-associated files are stored (for example, an exe file downloaded from a business server, or a zip emailed from a coworker, could be stored in "Downloads" for retrieval via USB on a computer.)

    A full fledged file manager would in fact be more complicated, decrease security, and require major rewriting of how Windows Phones manages files. The above solution, however. is as simple as adding a few API's. The suggested method would allow one to have more control over their files, while avoiding the clutter and security issues of a full-fledged File Manager.
    No, a file picker is useless for managing files since it basically just helps you to find the appropriate file to work upon in a particular app. It does not help in any way in say, copying or moving files from one place to another or putting files in separate groups.

    As for security concerns, can you actually tell how is the security of the OS compromised if we are allowed to control the music, photos, videos folders etc. in the sd card? We are not asking them to open up the system files, rather, we are asking them to provide full control to OUR files. If they are our files we have the right to have full control over them and not with the help of a useless file picker. My 7 year old Nokia 3110 classic could do it easily & safely then why can't my Lumia 520?
    I've seen many Androids but never one with malware. I know that they can get affected with malware, but, to say that support for file managers is the pure reason for it is total exaggeration.
    Kashan Osama and A895 like this.
    04-05-2014 12:30 AM
  13. Ezhik's Avatar
    Pocket File Manager
    I wonder how many alts did that app developer make to push his app? It's getting annoying, guys. It's as much of a file manager as any one of those file manager iPhone apps.
    A895 likes this.
    04-05-2014 04:20 AM
  14. Josip Zeljko's Avatar
    We need to ba able to

    1) copy files to the phone from a PC via USB
    2) load those files via filepicker into apps.

    Then im happy

    So far we can only do part 1
    That is not true. Even on WP8 you have apps that can load files from SD card. For example I transfered all my ebooks to my SD card, and I use my ebook reader app to load those books from sdcard.
    Kashan Osama likes this.
    04-05-2014 04:32 AM
  15. iyae's Avatar
    My 920 and 1020 don't have SD cards. If it doesn't work on all phones, its not a real function in my opinion. So it is true buddy.

    There is NO way to provide users the ability to load files onto their phone via USB, and then load those files into an app. Trust me, if there was my app would be doing it!
    04-05-2014 07:52 AM
  16. iyae's Avatar
    Of course, photos are the exception apparently. Music can only be played via the APIs, not loaded into a binary stream for editing...its all very locked down and limits what us devs can really achieve.
    Kashan Osama likes this.
    04-05-2014 08:02 AM
  17. 1101x10's Avatar
    Music can only be played via the APIs, not loaded into a binary stream for editing...its all very locked down and limits what us devs can really achieve.
    There's a sample universal project that uses the API's to read and decode a MP3 to an audio stream.

    Windows 8 MediaStreamSource streaming sample in C#, C++, JavaScript for Visual Studio 2013
    iyae likes this.
    04-05-2014 08:15 AM
  18. iyae's Avatar
    There's a sample universal project that uses the API's to read and decode a MP3 to an audio stream.

    Windows 8 MediaStreamSource streaming sample in C#, C++, JavaScript for Visual Studio 2013
    that's windows. Not windows phone 8 (Silverlight). You can decode mp3s and wavs in the assets folder of your project (which my app already does) but you canNOT access music in the media library (your phones music folder) like that. But hopefully we can in 8.1 using winRT :) but that's not on our phones yet!
    04-05-2014 08:23 AM
  19. iyae's Avatar
    The example looks hopeful for 8.1 though. If it lets us load files into editable streams from the media library ill be ecstatic!
    04-05-2014 08:26 AM
  20. 1101x10's Avatar
    that's windows. Not windows phone 8 (Silverlight). You can decode mp3s and wavs in the assets folder of your project (which my app already does) but you canNOT access music in the media library (your phones music folder) like that. But hopefully we can in 8.1 using winRT :) but that's not on our phones yet!
    Well, Silverlight 8.1 is supposed to give access to the new runtime API's although I haven't looked into how that works yet. This sample loads the MP3 from any folder - I tested it in the emulator by downloading an MP3 in IE to the download folder.
    04-05-2014 08:28 AM
  21. iyae's Avatar
    Well, Silverlight 8.1 is supposed to give access to the new runtime API's although I haven't looked into how that works yet. This sample loads the MP3 from any folder - I tested it in the emulator by downloading an MP3 in IE to the download folder.
    Thats awesome! Im having problems debugging in the emulator, keeps timing out, so im gonna have to wait until the dev preview before i can play around with the new APIs...and recode my whole app to WinRT...joy :/ haha
    04-05-2014 08:30 AM
  22. iyae's Avatar
    If i cant load from the media library, i at least hope files can be copied to the download folder via USB. Just thinking of the most user friendly way of getting samples and sounds from a PC into my app. Less screwing around for users :P
    04-05-2014 08:33 AM
  23. 1101x10's Avatar
    Actually, just remembered when I downloaded the MP3 it appeared in the media library, not the download folder
    04-05-2014 08:40 AM
  24. iyae's Avatar
    Actually, just remembered when I downloaded the MP3 it appeared in the media library, not the download folder
    Boom!
    04-05-2014 08:45 AM
  25. narv's Avatar
    Confirmed in a reddit AMA (I have Windows Phone 8.1 on a Nokia 929 and 928 - AMA : windowsphone) That it's not coming in WP8.1 but maybe 8.2 or 9 or whatever it's called. Read that as "confirmed"...
    04-05-2014 09:46 AM
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