Do you think WP8.1 is on par with IOS and ANDROID?

[anony_mouse]

The, "App" ecosystem has a weakness when many aspects of the phone's capabilities are based on it. The end user experience can suffer due to poor development and worse support.

Thanks for an interesting post. I'd like to respond (while accepting of course that you know what is the best phone for you).

The problem with relying on everything being built into the OS is that it assumes the one company (in this case Microsoft) has all the best ideas and can support everything that everyone wants. It also makes that company very powerful - they get to choose what is in and what is out, and of course give preference to their own interests. Imagine if Windows on the desktop didn't have such good 3rd party extensibility - would we ever have had, say, web browsers? Or Skype? Or actually most of the features we use today, whether used by everyone or very specialist? I also find 3rd party apps are usually better supported than core OS features. I expect the Facebook and Spotify apps on my Moto G to be updated long after Motorola give up on the core OS. And hopefully app developers are working on all kinds of exciting new things, which they can release fully independently of OS updates, and independently of whether the company controlling the platform thinks it's a good idea, or aligns with their interests.

 

[ohgood]

Thanks for an interesting post. I'd like to respond (while accepting of course that you know what is the best phone for you).

The problem with relying on everything being built into the OS is that it assumes the one company (in this case Microsoft) has all the best ideas and can support everything that everyone wants. It also makes that company very powerful - they get to choose what is in and what is out, and of course give preference to their own interests. Imagine if Windows on the desktop didn't have such good 3rd party extensibility - would we ever have had, say, web browsers? Or Skype? Or actually most of the features we use today, whether used by everyone or very specialist? I also find 3rd party apps are usually better supported than core OS features. I expect the Facebook and Spotify apps on my Moto G to be updated long after Motorola give up on the core OS. And hopefully app developers are working on all kinds of exciting new things, which they can release fully independently of OS updates, and independently of whether the company controlling the platform thinks it's a good idea, or aligns with their interests.

Excellent point.

 

[ohgood]

I find it interesting that feature lists are devised on the basis of what Windows Phone DOESN'T have but it rarely discusses what it has that other platforms don't. When I show the People hub to iOS users, their eyes widen as they think about all the contact apps they had to go through to find the right one. That, "feature" is really a part of the core philosophy that permeates many of Microsoft's products. While there are consumers who do feature to feature comparisons to determine which product to buy, that isn't the only criteria that people use. As more and more people move onto their 2nd or 3rd smartphone, their tastes and needs change. When I originally bought into the Android ecosystem, it was specifically because of the 3rd party support. As I used it more and more, it occurred to me that 3rd party apps weren't that useful to me. When Microsoft began to converge the Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 platform, switching was a no brainer. The, "App" ecosystem has a weakness when many aspects of the phone's capabilities are based on it. The end user experience can suffer due to poor development and worse support. Everyone knows that it's a crap shoot if it isn't built into the OS but very few technophiles are willing to admit it. 3rd party extensibility is a good thing but when it becomes central to the model, it could actually do more harm than good. Many consumers are inclined to follow market trends but that doesn't mean that they are stupid. In terms of the overall experience, I personally qualify Windows Phone as being the best for me.

I can't think of any, so I'm going to start a thread.

 

[Snazrael]

WP8.1 surpasses both Android and iPhone (unless you like being able to customize your phone OS completely a la Android being open source) because it will run beautifully on phones as inexpensive as $59 (Lumia 520). You can't buy an iPhone that cheap that will run iOS7 (performance is sub-par even on the 4S from what I've seen) and if you buy an Android phone that cheap you'll want to throw it against the wall every time you use it. Plus, Nokia's hardware wipes its rear (can't believe b*tt is censored) with iPhones and even the best Android phones.

 

[Lobbie1978]

I'm still confused why people are claiming a large number of malware of android. Is there any sources to back this up? Or are you just repeating the status quo around here? Its not true as of right now with android so I don't think its should be said anymore like it's a fact.

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Well, a small search indicates there is enough sources to back this up: CLICK

 

[Dan Strong1]

I'm a bit of a tech geek. Had iPhone and jailbroke it, had an android and downloaded new OS's/apps messed with it etc.

Windows Phone can not do all that but I felt Android and iOS have gotten too feature rich too early and they struggle to change, keeping the bloat as they updated. Windows Phone came at the right time and focused on usability and speed rather than features. THEN they have bulked out the features. It has made me not want to mess with my phone and I love the integration with all my devices with it. 8.1 is probably the version that brings it more inline with the others.

The apps are still a problem though. Developers make for iOS/Android and then WP at a later date, if ever. This can be annoying.

 

[Saksham Sharma]

I'm a bit of a tech geek. Had iPhone and jailbroke it, had an android and downloaded new OS's/apps messed with it etc.

Windows Phone can not do all that but I felt Android and iOS have gotten too feature rich too early and they struggle to change, keeping the bloat as they updated. Windows Phone came at the right time and focused on usability and speed rather than features. THEN they have bulked out the features. It has made me not want to mess with my phone and I love the integration with all my devices with it. 8.1 is probably the version that brings it more inline with the others.

The apps are still a problem though. Developers make for iOS/Android and then WP at a later date, if ever. This can be annoying.

I'm in the same boat as you. I used to hate ios back in 2010-11 because it didn't offer freedom to mess with the OS like android does. I loved to fiddle with my win7 on pc, and wished phones were that free/open too. Then i bought my wp8, and i changed a lot. I loved how i could not mess with it, and thus have the non cluttered professional look of the phone as i wanted. And the speed !
Yes, WP has been the best tech decision I've made.

 

[Dantekai14]

isn't this too early to post?

To be honest how many of us got WP8.1 now to answer this .

or
we hate competing OS too much that we don't even bother to use OS and just comment only in favor of WP without a single clue about it.

 

[chezm]

Not sure if this is considered off-topic, but do we know id Nokia is going to announce more Windows Phone 8.1 devices other than 930(which we dont even know if its coming to NA), 630 or 635? I was hoping for my high end choices than 930, and considering in Canada we got shafted with no 1520 our choices are very slim.

 

[prasath1234]

As android matured, of has become less about third part and more about what is available out of the box. Which is of course Google. With manufacturers that mat change slightly buy first and foremost is Google. Apple may have that "snob" factor but even got have to admit they make the best jack of all trades mobile devices. The only phone that came close on the android side was the Moto X. For windows phone it wasn't exactly the first party stuff that was the problem it was mainly third party. And while it has caught up mostly for the stuff that is being used now. The main concern is whatever comes out next may not be on WP and that's what is the problem with consumers along with poor marketing. How can I recommend someone who owns an iPhone to get a WP if the apps and games they like to play may not be there. There's also the question of does the person even use Microsoft services in the first place.

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We need an app like hangout from Microsoft.

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[prasath1234]

Thanks for an interesting post. I'd like to respond (while accepting of course that you know what is the best phone for you).

The problem with relying on everything being built into the OS is that it assumes the one company (in this case Microsoft) has all the best ideas and can support everything that everyone wants. It also makes that company very powerful - they get to choose what is in and what is out, and of course give preference to their own interests. Imagine if Windows on the desktop didn't have such good 3rd party extensibility - would we ever have had, say, web browsers? Or Skype? Or actually most of the features we use today, whether used by everyone or very specialist? I also find 3rd party apps are usually better supported than core OS features. I expect the Facebook and Spotify apps on my Moto G to be updated long after Motorola give up on the core OS. And hopefully app developers are working on all kinds of exciting new things, which they can release fully independently of OS updates, and independently of whether the company controlling the platform thinks it's a good idea, or aligns with their interests.

Microsoft wants it's user to glue to Windows 8 pc or laptop rather than Windows phone.from what I think about limiting features.

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[prasath1234]

Wp8.1 will succeed only if it has lot of native apps as available on android.people trade smoothness security or whatever superiority for the word apps.I talk about general public.wp8 has to become like Apple.

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[A895]

Well, a small search indicates there is enough sources to back this up: CLICK

A lot of the results are clockbait headlines. Of course the majority of malware would be found on android if it owns the majority of the smartphone market.

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[A895]

We need an app like hangout from Microsoft.

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Skype?

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[prasath1234]

Skype?

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Oh but many of my friends use hangouts.atleast is hangout available in Windows 8

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[A895]

Oh but many of my friends use hangouts.atleast is hangout available in Windows 8

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I highly doubt if Google will EVER put a hangouts app on windows phone. Google Services and windows phone don't get along.

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[prasath1234]

Hmm k thanks for your reply.

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[Doom Achineku]

In my opinion iOS is the worst OS I have ever used, I once had an iPad 2, I did not last a week with it, I gave it to my best friend who is an iOS freak, I just couldn't see any reason to use it, multitasking was crap the office substitutes were crap! All that Apps argument is garbage as far as I am concerned I currently own a HTC One M7 and a Samsung Ativ S, I currently prefer the HTC One in all but I prefer the Windows 8 software it feels more professional and more personal no OS can create something as amazing as live tiles IMHO, and I prefer the HTC One because the Ativ S is a dual core and I have come to realize that I bought the wrong Windows Phone, the only reason I haven't bought the Icon or 1520 is because I am waiting for the Lumia 930, I once played with a 1020 and I realized that it might be the same OS with the Ativ S but Nokia's firmware is way better than Samsung's it pains me that Lumia 930 doesnt come out until June

 

[lcw731]

Yes that article doesn't take into account WP8.1, I'd expect it to be corrected in the next while. Updating information takes time. It was wrong that the person posting this didn't realise it.



However, Wikipedia is becoming a credible source of information, regardless of the bagging it takes from schools and universities still. It's a pretty robust source too.

any source that can bee freely edited by anyone to sway perception or opinion one way or the other is not a credible source. It is an interesting source of information, but not a credible source.





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[bionicgt]

LIVE TILES are the reason why I bought WP8 !