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Carriers can't and DON'T block IMEIs as a business practice, because that would be anti-competitive and in some jurisdictions against the law. Love how all the ******** pile in here when they think they have a point.
there is a very simple solution for that that is well documented on the 920 forums.Agreed. Tethering or internet sharing is a great example of this. Everyone and their grandmother now knows that with the newer unlocked models, if tethering isn't in your package the carrier will block it. I have to curse t-mo out because I get that upgrade message when I use my unlocked 925. I don't get that anymore with either my Z Ultra or my 8X, which are both unlocked as well.
The carriers know what phones are on their network. It is within their right to BLOCK SERVICES ON A CONSUMER'S ACCOUNT THAT THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR. IT'S CALLED STEALING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL last time I checked.
Agreed. Tethering or internet sharing is a great example of this. Everyone and their grandmother now knows that with the newer unlocked models, if tethering isn't in your package the carrier will block it. I have to curse t-mo out because I get that upgrade message when I use my unlocked 925. I don't get that anymore with either my Z Ultra or my 8X, which are both unlocked as well. And for the record, I HAVE tethering already on my plan.
The carriers know what phones are on their network. It is within their right to BLOCK SERVICES ON A CONSUMER'S ACCOUNT THAT THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR. IT'S CALLED STEALING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL last time I checked.
there is a very simple solution for that that is well documented on the 920 forums.
I have a 920 on T-Mobile with working tethering due to information on these forums. You can do the same if you download the Spain keyboard and get rid of Access Point by changing the year to 2114 and try to open it up.
Thanks for the offer. I may look into. My 925 is factory unlocked Malay variant. My 920 beforehand was an unlocked Polish variant, my 8X is British unlocked, and my Z Ultra is Asian unlocked. I shouldn't have to do all that if I have the service active already.
But my point is still the same. T-mo has the ability even on an unlocked phone to DETECT whether I have a specific service active or not based on what is set up on my account with them. That's the same with pretty much all the carriers - once you activate the phone on their network, they know what you have. They have every right to block you as a user if you're stealing services. And they do...only of the most common ways is called cutting your phone service off for non payment.
Sometimes the internet produces some arm chair CEOs and FCC officials who lack the common sense to use before they post on a public forum.
Sadly, I don't know how it all works on the back end, I just know how to get a feature that I pay for working. :/
Sometimes, it could be a lot more complicated then we think it is.
I used to think so, but the Developer Preview basically makes any Windows phone the equivalent of a Nexus.
Sometimes I wonder if people read the site at all....
All WP8 devices are upgradeable to 8.1. It's been stated numerous times.
If your carrier plays games with your update, the Developer Preview is a free, easy way to get OS updates and its available to everyone. This has also been reported many times in many places.
There's really no problem here, and certainly no need for people to whine.
I used to think so, but the Developer Preview basically makes any Windows phone the equivalent of a Nexus.
""All WP8 models support WP8.1; availability based on carrier".
You can't weasel out with fine print statements like that when you are LOUDLY and PUBLICLY saying "ALL WP8 devices will get 8.1" Both Elop and Nokia blog says it. They have painted themselves into a corner and better get with T-Mo to get that 810 tested and upgraded.
And if they had their way: all Windows Phone 8 devices would get it. Seriously, why would Microsoft and Nokia develop software updates that take time, money and effort to build, and bring happiness, joy and renewed loyalty to their customers: then not push it out if they had a say it?
That's the problem: Microsoft and Nokia don't get a say in it. They're at the mercy of carriers. If they try and protest, the carrier simply stops advertising Windows Phone devices, and then refuses to stock or carry them.
Granted, Windows Phone 8.1 is a major, major, MAJOR update. And of course, Nokia Cyan will be a welcome update also, and Nokia is soon to be absorbed by Microsoft. As such, I'm sure Microsoft will aggressively try to negotiate with carriers to approve and push out the updates by then end of 2014 at the latest (not ideal, I know, but best of a bad situation). But that's all Microsoft can try to do: negotiate. If carriers refuse to push the update, then users are forced to the Developer Preview program.
As for OEM and device specific firmware? Well, either stay behind, or flash your device with another carriers ROM. But of course, the latter results in the loss of all data on the device, and could lead to problems when your device tries to communicate with your carrier's network.
This is a complex issue, with no simple explanation, easy answers, or fast workarounds. The fact of the matter is: Windows Phone 8.1 WILL come to all Windows Phone 8 devices ideally, but carriers can be a real pain in the ***.