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  1. jleebiker's Avatar
    One important advantage WP has is uniform hardware which enables hassle-free timely updates for all devices (exception being the lumia 810 which was abandoned by t-mobile, even so developer preview acts as a workaround for this).

    Every WP device can be on the latest version of the OS. Android is notoriously terrible at this.
    Umm... Not sure what hardware you're talking about but the ONLY one that has uniform hardware is Apple. WP is on a ton of various hardware from a collection of vendors.
    04-09-2014 12:21 PM
  2. Ramazan Bilgin's Avatar
    A map. Yes it has integrated bing map and here map but both of them suck. My last search was mcdonald but they showed me a place where there is no mcdonald. Maybe there was one in a year ago. It hasnt happaned just once. They really need to improve their maps. I wish gmap will come to wp soon.
    04-09-2014 01:07 PM
  3. 05Paris's Avatar
    The most important difference for me is the synergy between the desktop, laptop, tablet and phone ecosystem. You don't have that with either Apple or Android. You can take most the apps and put them in a mayonnaise jar for all I care. Give me function and something that looks great...that would be WP.
    phirefly likes this.
    04-09-2014 01:22 PM
  4. T Moore's Avatar
    Out of the box speech assist, reading and replying to SMS. Same thing for speech search.
    04-09-2014 01:31 PM
  5. Torch4x4's Avatar
    We cannot compare right now, but I think there's a good opportunity for WP to get some advantages in some details, for instance Cortana with 3rd party app integration, would be great if you can say "Cortana open Netflix and play the last episode of House of Cards" or "Cortana open spottify and play the latest album of Lorde" that was demonstrated by Joe Belfiore in a video opening hulu and playing a tv show. from the past we had the Pandora for free, Office, Onedrive autoupload, predictive keyboard, etc. etc. some good little details not available in other platforms that moment, in general WP has better cameras, UI with no lag, the people hub, pin of almost everything to the screen, etc. etc. lets wait for the release of 8.1 and then compare...
    Kram Sacul and Notorious MIKE like this.
    04-09-2014 01:39 PM
  6. bionicgt's Avatar
    It looks great to the eye! I love WP!
    Wayne Turner2 likes this.
    04-09-2014 03:54 PM
  7. j o e l's Avatar
    To me, only WP8.1 allows access to the best camera on a phone.
    04-09-2014 04:39 PM
  8. manicottiK's Avatar
    Tiles are semi-unique. There's no "pre-launch display panel" idea on iOS. Android has widgets, but the uptake of widgets appears to be less than the use of live tiles. (I'm not one who believes that live tiles are an alternative for a notification center. However, tiles can convey key information instantly, saving users from having to jump in an out of apps.)

    The concept of secondary tiles, that is, additional icons that can take a user directly to a particular part of an app. They are effectively app bookmarks and they aren't available in iOS or Android. (Yes, one could write lots of widgets for Android to achieve this, but few apps do.) Our app really exploits this, providing users links to any part of the app. In the image below, we show the main tile and secondary tiles to take students directly to their grades, course list, schedule, bus schedule, campus map, announcements, and even a specific class.
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    04-10-2014 02:11 AM
  9. Kashan Osama's Avatar
    Tiles are semi-unique. There's no "pre-launch display panel" idea on iOS. Android has widgets, but the uptake of widgets appears to be less than the use of live tiles. (I'm not one who believes that live tiles are an alternative for a notification center. However, tiles can convey key information instantly, saving users from having to jump in an out of apps.)

    The concept of secondary tiles, that is, additional icons that can take a user directly to a particular part of an app. They are effectively app bookmarks and they aren't available in iOS or Android. (Yes, one could write lots of widgets for Android to achieve this, but few apps do.) Our app really exploits this, providing users links to any part of the app. In the image below, we show the main tile and secondary tiles to take students directly to their grades, course list, schedule, bus schedule, campus map, announcements, and even a specific class.
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    this...nailed it mate
    04-10-2014 03:01 AM
  10. Adriaan NL's Avatar
    Nicely put, manicottiK! I'd add that most widgets have their own design - none fits within one design language. That makes one's start screen(s) pretty disjoint with a lot of different looking elements. So, the WP start screen can be seen as whole, while the Android home screen is a collection of elements.
    04-10-2014 03:36 AM
  11. Saksham Sharma's Avatar
    ManicottiK that was very true ! I'd like to add, live tiles are unique ! By unique i mean, they haven't been seen anywhere else before wp7.
    In case of iOS, their home screen was basically the menu screen of all java phones of that era. Android just copied iOS, and gave some freedom to devs who made various designs of the home screen/app drawer. But all that wasn't revolutionary. Live tiles is the only revolutionary idea in the phone OS market.
    Pontifex likes this.
    04-10-2014 03:49 AM
  12. Guytronic's Avatar
    What does wp8.1 have that iOS and android do not ?
    A late start.
    monso0n, A895, Arda Ozkal and 4 others like this.
    04-10-2014 04:33 AM
  13. Adriaan NL's Avatar
    ManicottiK that was very true ! I'd like to add, live tiles are unique ! By unique i mean, they haven't been seen anywhere else before wp7.
    In case of iOS, their home screen was basically the menu screen of all java phones of that era. Android just copied iOS, and gave some freedom to devs who made various designs of the home screen/app drawer. But all that wasn't revolutionary. Live tiles is the only revolutionary idea in the phone OS market.
    That's unfair to the concept of widgets: they are unique as well. They offer a way of interacting with an app without actually opening it. That's pretty nifty too. However, the approach of tiles is different. Tiles are basically re-invented icons, as they are still "shortcuts" to apps, but their way of referring to the apps is different. In a way, they are "windows" to apps as they offer a way to see what is going on in the app, without actually opening it.
    Saksham Sharma likes this.
    04-10-2014 04:34 AM
  14. Saksham Sharma's Avatar
    That's unfair to the concept of widgets: they are unique as well. They offer a way of interacting with an app without actually opening it. That's pretty nifty too. However, the approach of tiles is different. Tiles are basically re-invented icons, as they are still "shortcuts" to apps, but their way of referring to the apps is different. In a way, they are "windows" to apps as they offer a way to see what is going on in the app, without actually opening it.
    yes its true. But widgets were not very unique. Vista had them in 2006, an year before iOS and 2 years before android. Then, they are a HUGE memory hog, and have a huge role in making android the lagdroid it is. Also, they're much much much bigger battery hogs than live tiles.
    But relevant is the fact that widgets weren't a revolution by google.
    Adriaan NL likes this.
    04-10-2014 04:47 AM
  15. christos michalopoulos's Avatar
    I have lumia 920, nexus 5 and iphone 5s. I enjoy much more using my iphone over the two others. Its simple and always work. When i put down my iphone i take lumia. But i think over all ios use is a great experience.
    04-10-2014 04:57 AM
  16. Adriaan NL's Avatar
    yes its true. But widgets were not very unique. Vista had them in 2006, an year before iOS and 2 years before android. Then, they are a HUGE memory hog, and have a huge role in making android the lagdroid it is. Also, they're much much much bigger battery hogs than live tiles.
    But relevant is the fact that widgets weren't a revolution by google.
    Good point! Though their roots go back to Xerox Park again... But you're right indeed, it's not an Android thing. Yet, I do think they popularized it. I don't think many people really used the "gadgets" of Vista - they were more than horrible, as they were making Vista slow and laggy as well. These tiles are indeed unique in the sense it offers info, without any lag.
    Saksham Sharma likes this.
    04-10-2014 04:57 AM
  17. Saksham Sharma's Avatar
    Good point! Though their roots go back to Xerox Park again... But you're right indeed, it's not an Android thing. Yet, I do think they popularized it. I don't think many people really used the "gadgets" of Vista - they were more than horrible, as they were making Vista slow and laggy as well. These tiles are indeed unique in the sense it offers info, without any lag.
    everyone i knew (including me) used widgets even though they knew they made vista slow. Still, we dont even remember Vista had them (which is apparent if you ask some people about the origin of widgets, almost everyone would say android came first), so it is true indeed that android popularized them.
    Lol, but all that doesn't make widgets better than live tiles, live tiles are the most practical and efficient innovation. Cheers !
    Adriaan NL likes this.
    04-10-2014 05:27 AM
  18. davesannie's Avatar
    A beautifull Nokia 930
    04-10-2014 06:44 AM
  19. mozman68's Avatar
    I thought I used web based widgets via Yahoo before they were available on Windows?

    Widget timeline
    A895 likes this.
    04-10-2014 07:23 AM
  20. A895's Avatar
    A map. Yes it has integrated bing map and here map but both of them suck. My last search was mcdonald but they showed me a place where there is no mcdonald. Maybe there was one in a year ago. It hasnt happaned just once. They really need to improve their maps. I wish gmap will come to wp soon.
    The one app that would make switching to WP painless for me.
    04-10-2014 07:51 AM
  21. A895's Avatar
    ManicottiK that was very true ! I'd like to add, live tiles are unique ! By unique i mean, they haven't been seen anywhere else before wp7.
    In case of iOS, their home screen was basically the menu screen of all java phones of that era. Android just copied iOS, and gave some freedom to devs who made various designs of the home screen/app drawer. But all that wasn't revolutionary. Live tiles is the only revolutionary idea in the phone OS market.
    How did android copy iOS?
    04-10-2014 07:52 AM
  22. sejgiul's Avatar
    Seen this before somewhere, totally awesome and I wish more developers would provide such functionality...

    Tiles are semi-unique. There's no "pre-launch display panel" idea on iOS. Android has widgets, but the uptake of widgets appears to be less than the use of live tiles. (I'm not one who believes that live tiles are an alternative for a notification center. However, tiles can convey key information instantly, saving users from having to jump in an out of apps.)

    The concept of secondary tiles, that is, additional icons that can take a user directly to a particular part of an app. They are effectively app bookmarks and they aren't available in iOS or Android. (Yes, one could write lots of widgets for Android to achieve this, but few apps do.) Our app really exploits this, providing users links to any part of the app. In the image below, we show the main tile and secondary tiles to take students directly to their grades, course list, schedule, bus schedule, campus map, announcements, and even a specific class.
    Click image for larger version. 

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    04-10-2014 07:54 AM
  23. Saksham Sharma's Avatar
    How did android copy iOS?
    android was designed to be a big copy of iOS only. Only that it was open source and allowed major freedoms to developers and manufacturers. Android copied iOS by picking up the standard old phone model (a home screen with a wallpaper+app drawer), had nothing revolutionary.
    04-10-2014 08:00 AM
  24. svenhassel's Avatar
    I like both iOS and WP. I would say that even though Apple and ms are no saints, their devices aren't so focused in getting information about the user as in android. Android is a big excuse for google and app developers to get the information of the user.

    Both iOS and WP are more stable and less fragmented than android. I don't like android aesthetic, it looks poorly polished.

    I prefer WP over iOS because you can get similar performance for a better price. Some ms services that I use work better on WP, like OneNote. And nokia has glance, offline here maps and here drive :)

    The only thing I really miss from iOS is goodreader, an amazing PDF app that allows you to sync an entire folder of your cloud service of choice, and a proper reminder / task manager app.
    Saksham Sharma likes this.
    04-10-2014 08:46 AM
  25. jmshub's Avatar
    That's unfair to the concept of widgets: they are unique as well. They offer a way of interacting with an app without actually opening it. That's pretty nifty too. However, the approach of tiles is different. Tiles are basically re-invented icons, as they are still "shortcuts" to apps, but their way of referring to the apps is different. In a way, they are "windows" to apps as they offer a way to see what is going on in the app, without actually opening it.
    Widgets provide contextual information, but live tiles provide a lot more information. The whole premise of Windows Phone is that nearly every app has live tile access. That is a big differentiator.
    04-10-2014 08:56 AM
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